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Damn TX property tax does seem to have jumped.

http://www.tax-rates.org/taxtables/property-tax-by-state

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Damn TX property tax does seem to have jumped.

http://www.tax-rates.org/taxtables/property-tax-by-state

Texas's other taxes are lower to help make-up for that jump.

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It has to be easier for the states with all the wide open land and opportunity to try new ideas etc. to advance their growth. They are not tied down by long standing traditional things that plague other states like NY and IL.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Damn TX property tax does seem to have jumped.

http://www.tax-rates.org/taxtables/property-tax-by-state

Texas's other taxes are lower to help make-up for that jump.

TX is somewhere I need to visit. Never been there, but I want some authentic TX bbq before I die.

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It has to be easier for the states with all the wide open land and opportunity to try new ideas etc. to advance their growth. They are not tied down by long standing traditional things that plague other states like NY and IL.

Illinois has plenty of land...what are you talking about?


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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Damn TX property tax does seem to have jumped.

http://www.tax-rates.org/taxtables/property-tax-by-state

Texas's other taxes are lower to help make-up for that jump.

And in the Tech/Engineering fields wages rival Illinois. It's the place to be, imo


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It has to be easier for the states with all the wide open land and opportunity to try new ideas etc. to advance their growth. They are not tied down by long standing traditional things that plague other states like NY and IL.

IL does have a lot of wide open spaces, but I get what you're saying.

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Spoiler alert: You'll leave Illinois and find that other places have problems too.

The only reason to leave Illinois is if you are tired of the weather especially in the winter.

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Caller Bob wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Damn TX property tax does seem to have jumped.

http://www.tax-rates.org/taxtables/property-tax-by-state

Texas's other taxes are lower to help make-up for that jump.

And in the Tech/Engineering fields wages rival Illinois. It's the place to be, imo

Plus, Texas has more than 1 urban area to rely on. The Dallas Metroplex, Houston, San Antonio, and Austin all offer what any large city does.

Illinois only has Chicago so as Chicago goes, so does the rest of the state.

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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 9:00 am 
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Spoiler alert: You'll leave Illinois and find that other places have problems too.

The only reason to leave Illinois is if you are tired of the weather especially in the winter.

I thought you didn't live in IL?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Spoiler alert: You'll leave Illinois and find that other places have problems too.

The only reason to leave Illinois is if you are tired of the weather especially in the winter.

Other places have problems, but they are still better places to live than Illinois. I say this as someone who has left and is happy with the results of doing so.

Quality of life is much higher when you leave Madiganistan.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Spoiler alert: You'll leave Illinois and find that other places have problems too.

The only reason to leave Illinois is if you are tired of the weather especially in the winter.

I have 5 friends that bolted Illinois for Texas and they don't have a single regret.


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Caller Bob wrote:
pittmike wrote:
It has to be easier for the states with all the wide open land and opportunity to try new ideas etc. to advance their growth. They are not tied down by long standing traditional things that plague other states like NY and IL.

Illinois has plenty of land...what are you talking about?


I guess I stated that poorly. If you look at Texas for example the larger metro areas are spread around the state. Also, the ability to expand those areas is limitless. In Illinois for example everything is at the top around Chicago and cheap expansion is not a piece of cake for many reasons.

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Jbi11s wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Spoiler alert: You'll leave Illinois and find that other places have problems too.

The only reason to leave Illinois is if you are tired of the weather especially in the winter.

I thought you didn't live in IL?
I don't. That's why I am saying that the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

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I'd be great if we could just throw the libtards out.


I know...we should shake up Springfield !


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pittmike wrote:
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pittmike wrote:
It has to be easier for the states with all the wide open land and opportunity to try new ideas etc. to advance their growth. They are not tied down by long standing traditional things that plague other states like NY and IL.

Illinois has plenty of land...what are you talking about?


I guess I stated that poorly. If you look at Texas for example the larger metro areas are spread around the state. Also, the ability to expand those areas is limitless. In Illinois for example everything is at the top around Chicago and cheap expansion is not a piece of cake for many reasons.

Illinois could have that same ability of we voted the liberals out


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Their kids will come back as doe-eyed liberals holding not-actual-jobs in """industries""" like marketing and social activism. They'll eagerly vote blindly for these same politicians because their out-of-state naïvete comepls them #FightBackAgainstHate and fill out a party ballot for the machine.


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Caller Bob wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Spoiler alert: You'll leave Illinois and find that other places have problems too.

The only reason to leave Illinois is if you are tired of the weather especially in the winter.

I have 5 friends that bolted Illinois for Texas and they don't have a single regret.
Well, I don't have a regret either but it doesn't mean that every area I've lived in doesn't have as many problems as Illinois did.

I'm not saying Illinois is some grand utopia and you'll hate living anywhere else. I just see too many people who seem to act like living in Illinois is a prison sentence.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Spoiler alert: You'll leave Illinois and find that other places have problems too.

The only reason to leave Illinois is if you are tired of the weather especially in the winter.

I don't think the weather is the only reason.

But you are right every place has their own problems.

Leaving the Chicagoland was a great choice for me.

My home mortgage is less per month than I was paying for a 1 bedroom apt in 1997.

And property taxes here.....crazy low. I get a good laugh anytime I hear people around here bitch about their property taxes.

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Bagels wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
I'd be great if we could just throw the libtards out.


I know...we should shake up Springfield !

Don't regret my vote for Rauner one bit. Will vote for him again. Its too bad emporer Madigan and his chronies oppose him at every turn


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Caller Bob wrote:
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Caller Bob wrote:
I'd be great if we could just throw the libtards out.


I know...we should shake up Springfield !

Don't regret my vote for Rauner one bit. Will vote for him again. Its too bad emporer Madigan and his chronies oppose him at every turn

Madigan is the real governor of Illinois, and has been for over 3 decades

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pittmike wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
pittmike wrote:
It has to be easier for the states with all the wide open land and opportunity to try new ideas etc. to advance their growth. They are not tied down by long standing traditional things that plague other states like NY and IL.

Illinois has plenty of land...what are you talking about?


I guess I stated that poorly. If you look at Texas for example the larger metro areas are spread around the state. Also, the ability to expand those areas is limitless. In Illinois for example everything is at the top around Chicago and cheap expansion is not a piece of cake for many reasons.

Limitless? I do believe Texas has borders.

Sprawl is never the answer.


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RFDC wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Spoiler alert: You'll leave Illinois and find that other places have problems too.

The only reason to leave Illinois is if you are tired of the weather especially in the winter.

I don't think the weather is the only reason.

But you are right every place has their own problems.

Leaving the Chicagoland was a great choice for me.

My home mortgage is less per month than I was paying for a 1 bedroom apt in 1997.

And property taxes here.....crazy low. I get a good laugh anytime I hear people around here bitch about their property taxes.

Missouri right? I've heard real estate is super low out there.

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Kirkwood wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
pittmike wrote:
It has to be easier for the states with all the wide open land and opportunity to try new ideas etc. to advance their growth. They are not tied down by long standing traditional things that plague other states like NY and IL.

Illinois has plenty of land...what are you talking about?


I guess I stated that poorly. If you look at Texas for example the larger metro areas are spread around the state. Also, the ability to expand those areas is limitless. In Illinois for example everything is at the top around Chicago and cheap expansion is not a piece of cake for many reasons.

Limitless? I do believe Texas has borders.

Sprawl is never the answer.

The great metropolitan center that is the Dallas Metroplex seems to indicate otherwise.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
pittmike wrote:
It has to be easier for the states with all the wide open land and opportunity to try new ideas etc. to advance their growth. They are not tied down by long standing traditional things that plague other states like NY and IL.

Illinois has plenty of land...what are you talking about?


I guess I stated that poorly. If you look at Texas for example the larger metro areas are spread around the state. Also, the ability to expand those areas is limitless. In Illinois for example everything is at the top around Chicago and cheap expansion is not a piece of cake for many reasons.

Limitless? I do believe Texas has borders.

Sprawl is never the answer.

The great metropolitan center that is the Dallas Metroplex seems to indicate otherwise.

Indicate what?


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Equally hilarious, to see African American voters in Chicago continue their unabashed support for the mayor, an elitist Jew who could could care less how much slaughter goes down on the south side, "just keep it out of the nice areas of Chicago"....


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Kirkwood wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
pittmike wrote:
It has to be easier for the states with all the wide open land and opportunity to try new ideas etc. to advance their growth. They are not tied down by long standing traditional things that plague other states like NY and IL.

Illinois has plenty of land...what are you talking about?


I guess I stated that poorly. If you look at Texas for example the larger metro areas are spread around the state. Also, the ability to expand those areas is limitless. In Illinois for example everything is at the top around Chicago and cheap expansion is not a piece of cake for many reasons.

Limitless? I do believe Texas has borders.

Sprawl is never the answer.

The great metropolitan center that is the Dallas Metroplex seems to indicate otherwise.

Indicate what?

that sprawl can be the answer. The Metroplex works because you have 1 large city and several medium sized cities that each sustain large job markets/industries (places like Arlington, Fort Worth, Plano, etc.)

Chicago may have large suburbs, but they are all reliant upon Chicago and serve primarily as bedroom communities rather than cities in their own right.

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Jbi11s wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Spoiler alert: You'll leave Illinois and find that other places have problems too.

The only reason to leave Illinois is if you are tired of the weather especially in the winter.

I don't think the weather is the only reason.

But you are right every place has their own problems.

Leaving the Chicagoland was a great choice for me.

My home mortgage is less per month than I was paying for a 1 bedroom apt in 1997.

And property taxes here.....crazy low. I get a good laugh anytime I hear people around here bitch about their property taxes.

Missouri right? I've heard real estate is super low out there.

yep. mortgage plus prop tax is less than $500 a month.

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Kirkwood wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
pittmike wrote:
It has to be easier for the states with all the wide open land and opportunity to try new ideas etc. to advance their growth. They are not tied down by long standing traditional things that plague other states like NY and IL.

Illinois has plenty of land...what are you talking about?


I guess I stated that poorly. If you look at Texas for example the larger metro areas are spread around the state. Also, the ability to expand those areas is limitless. In Illinois for example everything is at the top around Chicago and cheap expansion is not a piece of cake for many reasons.

Limitless? I do believe Texas has borders.

Sprawl is never the answer.

The great metropolitan center that is the Dallas Metroplex seems to indicate otherwise.

Indicate what?

Dallas and Houston are soulless wastelands.

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RFDC wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Spoiler alert: You'll leave Illinois and find that other places have problems too.

The only reason to leave Illinois is if you are tired of the weather especially in the winter.

I don't think the weather is the only reason.

But you are right every place has their own problems.

Leaving the Chicagoland was a great choice for me.

My home mortgage is less per month than I was paying for a 1 bedroom apt in 1997.

And property taxes here.....crazy low. I get a good laugh anytime I hear people around here bitch about their property taxes.
I meant "only reason" as in that the weather is really the only negative to Illinois(and let's be honest, we mean Chicago and the suburbs) that isn't balanced out by other positives. COL is lower in many places but normally that comes with a cost too.

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