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Ohhhhh, the mystery of Sam Fucking Darnold...wooooo woooooo!??!?!?! Am I supposed to be impressed? Remember when Matt Barkli was the 1st overall pick in the draft? Alot can happen in a year, you prospect smeagols. I concern myself in the HERE AND NOW!

TurdFerguson wrote:

He played against 3rd and 4th stringers and looked the part of an actual qb playing against 3rd and 4th stringers.

The way he moved and the throws he made were impressive. It looks like we may have our QB of the future.

Well Sam Darnold might be a Luck/Manning-type prospect but I agree, the Bears in no way overdrafted (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

Caller Bob wrote:

There are some other impressive QB as well.

If the Bears are in a position to draft one (which I do not think they will be), now they can trade the pick to a team in need and recoup all those picks lost on (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky

Caller Bob wrote:

Trubiski is a better prospect than Carson Wentz and likely will be better than all the QB prospects coming out in 2018. Say what you will about Pace, but he was playing chess in the draft while everyone else was playing checkers.

Might wanna do some more research on next year's class. That's a bold prediction

FavreFan wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Might wanna do some more research on next year's class. That's a bold prediction

The GREAT SAM DARNOLD is 11-19 for 115 yards, 0TD's and 1 Pick vs college football powerhouse Wester Michigan.

Another bad FF sports thought.

Caller Bob wrote:

John Lackey

Thanks for reminding me of another victory over you.

FavreFan wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

John Lackey

Thanks for reminding me of another victory over you.

You declared him dead, and he's gone on to be a top 30 starter in baseball this year.

I dunno, Lackey's has been way above expectations since the All Star break....

Caller Bob wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

John Lackey

Thanks for reminding me of another victory over you.

You declared him dead, and he's gone on to be a top 30 starter in baseball this year.

Top 30?

I said he was pretty much done, and since then he's gone on to have the worst season of his career. Take the L here and move on brother

Best QB bears have ever had.

ALL STATS MATTER, and they all say Lackey's been an admirable #4 starter this year. Meeting expectations. Just take the 'L' and we all go home here.

Caller Bob wrote:

ALL STATS MATTER, and they all say Lackey's been an admirable #4 starter this year. Meeting expectations. Just take the 'L' and we all go home here.

What's a better stat to use for a pitcher - W/L or fwar? Just looking for some consistency from you. Shouldn't be too hard.

FavreFan wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

ALL STATS MATTER, and they all say Lackey's been an admirable #4 starter this year. Meeting expectations. Just take the 'L' and we all go home here.

What's a better stat to use for a pitcher - W/L or fwar? Just looking for some consistency from you. Shouldn't be too hard.

I think there are problems with fWAR for evaluating starting pitchers. I've been very open with this regarding Quintana. I've had the most bullish people on Quintana admit, at best he's a #2 starter. Yet, cumulative fWAR says Quintana is top 10 in all of baseball in terms of fWAR the past few seasons..so there is obviously a disconnect here. Sometimes you can confuse quantity with quality. Now what does Q do well..durable. He takes the ball every 5 days, pitchers 200 innings every year. Which has value. Much value. But there is something to be said, if even the big Q fans can't put him in as a #1 starter.

FF takes another brutal beating here, just hours after being unbanned. I feel bad here, I shouldn't have done that to "Fresh Meat"

Author:	Hank Scorpio [ Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:30 am ]
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Caller Bob wrote: Ohhhhh, the mystery of Sam Fucking Darnold...wooooo woooooo!??!?!?! Am I supposed to be impressed? Remember when Matt Barkli was the 1st overall pick in the draft? Alot can happen in a year, you prospect smeagols. I concern myself in the HERE AND NOW! Bob gets it

Author:	TurdFerguson [ Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:31 am ]
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Nas wrote: TurdFerguson wrote: He played against 3rd and 4th stringers and looked the part of an actual qb playing against 3rd and 4th stringers. The way he moved and the throws he made were impressive. It looks like we may have our QB of the future. Absolutely. I have no need to see him again against scrubs. Can he repeat against first or second strings.

Author:	good dolphin [ Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:35 am ]
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America wrote: Well Sam Darnold might be a Luck/Manning-type prospect but I agree, the Bears in no way overdrafted (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. I am pretty sure I provided evidence showing he had a superior post combine evaluation score to Mariotta and a similar one to QB drafted in the top five over the past decade or so. He was not over drafted. The trade may be open to scrutiny but the draft position is valid.

Author:	good dolphin [ Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:37 am ]
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Caller Bob wrote: Ohhhhh, the mystery of Sam Fucking Darnold...wooooo woooooo!??!?!?! Am I supposed to be impressed? Remember when Matt Barkli was the 1st overall pick in the draft? Alot can happen in a year, you prospect smeagols. I concern myself in the HERE AND NOW! There are some other impressive QB as well. If the Bears are in a position to draft one (which I do not think they will be), now they can trade the pick to a team in need and recoup all those picks lost on (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky

Author:	Caller Bob [ Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:50 am ]
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good dolphin wrote: Caller Bob wrote: Ohhhhh, the mystery of Sam Fucking Darnold...wooooo woooooo!??!?!?! Am I supposed to be impressed? Remember when Matt Barkli was the 1st overall pick in the draft? Alot can happen in a year, you prospect smeagols. I concern myself in the HERE AND NOW! There are some other impressive QB as well. If the Bears are in a position to draft one (which I do not think they will be), now they can trade the pick to a team in need and recoup all those picks lost on (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky If Trubiski went back to North Carolina, he would head and shoulders 1st overall pick. And the best prospect since Luck. Ryane Pasce got in on ground operations here.

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Author:	Caller Bob [ Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:12 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote: Caller Bob wrote: Trubiski is a better prospect than Carson Wentz and likely will be better than all the QB prospects coming out in 2018. Say what you will about Pace, but he was playing chess in the draft while everyone else was playing checkers. Might wanna do some more research on next year's class. That's a bold prediction The GREAT SAM DARNOLD is 11-19 for 115 yards, 0TD's and 1 Pick vs college football powerhouse Wester Michigan. Another bad FF sports thought.

Author:	FavreFan [ Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:17 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote: FavreFan wrote: Caller Bob wrote: Trubiski is a better prospect than Carson Wentz and likely will be better than all the QB prospects coming out in 2018. Say what you will about Pace, but he was playing chess in the draft while everyone else was playing checkers. Might wanna do some more research on next year's class. That's a bold prediction The GREAT SAM DARNOLD is 11-19 for 115 yards, 0TD's and 1 Pick vs college football powerhouse Wester Michigan. Another bad FF sports thought. I didn't mention even mention Darnold in my post. Saying (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is better than Wentz and will be better than all of next year's class is a pretty dumb prediction. I'm pretty sure you really don't want to compare sports thoughts.

Author:	Caller Bob [ Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:29 pm ]
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John Lackey

Author:	FavreFan [ Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:30 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote: John Lackey Thanks for reminding me of another victory over you.

Author:	Caller Bob [ Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:31 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote: Caller Bob wrote: John Lackey Thanks for reminding me of another victory over you. You declared him dead, and he's gone on to be a top 30 starter in baseball this year.

Author:	FavreFan [ Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:35 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote: FavreFan wrote: Caller Bob wrote: John Lackey Thanks for reminding me of another victory over you. You declared him dead, and he's gone on to be a top 30 starter in baseball this year. Top 30? I said he was pretty much done, and since then he's gone on to have the worst season of his career. Take the L here and move on brother

Author:	denisdman [ Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:36 pm ]
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I dunno, Lackey's has been way above expectations since the All Star break....

Author:	FavreFan [ Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:37 pm ]
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denisdman wrote: I dunno, Lackey's has been way above expectations since the All Star break.... Bob's told me before fwar is all that matters so I'm using his criteria for this. Seems only fair to him.

Author:	Caller Bob [ Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:38 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote: Caller Bob wrote: FavreFan wrote: Caller Bob wrote: John Lackey Thanks for reminding me of another victory over you. You declared him dead, and he's gone on to be a top 30 starter in baseball this year. Top 30? I said he was pretty much done, and since then he's gone on to have the worst season of his career. Take the L here and move on brother He ranks 27th in all of baseball in terms of the most important metric for evaluating a pitcher http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?p ... 0&sort=3,d Strike 2..just take your ball and go home

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Author:	FavreFan [ Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:42 pm ]
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Bob's motto - fwar is all that matters until it doesn't, at which point it never did.

Author:	Curious Hair [ Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:45 pm ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote: Best QB bears have ever had. Listen, I know you're from Hegewisch, but rethink this. Have a great weekend.

Author:	Caller Bob [ Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:46 pm ]
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ALL STATS MATTER, and they all say Lackey's been an admirable #4 starter this year. Meeting expectations. Just take the 'L' and we all go home here.

Author:	FavreFan [ Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:47 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote: ALL STATS MATTER, and they all say Lackey's been an admirable #4 starter this year. Meeting expectations. Just take the 'L' and we all go home here. What's a better stat to use for a pitcher - W/L or fwar? Just looking for some consistency from you. Shouldn't be too hard.

Author:	Caller Bob [ Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:51 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote: Caller Bob wrote: ALL STATS MATTER, and they all say Lackey's been an admirable #4 starter this year. Meeting expectations. Just take the 'L' and we all go home here. What's a better stat to use for a pitcher - W/L or fwar? Just looking for some consistency from you. Shouldn't be too hard. I think there are problems with fWAR for evaluating starting pitchers. I've been very open with this regarding Quintana. I've had the most bullish people on Quintana admit, at best he's a #2 starter. Yet, cumulative fWAR says Quintana is top 10 in all of baseball in terms of fWAR the past few seasons..so there is obviously a disconnect here. Sometimes you can confuse quantity with quality. Now what does Q do well..durable. He takes the ball every 5 days, pitchers 200 innings every year. Which has value. Much value. But there is something to be said, if even the big Q fans can't put him in as a #1 starter.

Author:	FavreFan [ Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:51 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote: FavreFan wrote: Caller Bob wrote: ALL STATS MATTER, and they all say Lackey's been an admirable #4 starter this year. Meeting expectations. Just take the 'L' and we all go home here. What's a better stat to use for a pitcher - W/L or fwar? Just looking for some consistency from you. Shouldn't be too hard. I think there are problems with fWAR for evaluating starting pitchers. I've been very open with this regarding Quintana. I've had the most bullish people on Quintana admit, at best he's a #2 starter. Yet, cumulative fWAR says Quintana is top 10 in all of baseball in terms of fWAR the past few seasons..so there is obviously a disconnect here. Sometimes you can confuse quantity with quality. Now what does Q do well..durable. He takes the ball every 5 days, pitchers 200 innings every year. Which has value. Much value. But there is something to be said, if even the big Q fans can't put him in as a #1 starter. That's cool. Now can I get an answer to my question?

Author:	Caller Bob [ Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:54 pm ]
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All stats matter in the evaluation in a starter, and that evaluation says Lackey is a fine #4 starter. Final answer. You are welcome.

Author:	Caller Bob [ Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:55 pm ]
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FF takes another brutal beating here, just hours after being unbanned. I feel bad here, I shouldn't have done that to "Fresh Meat"

Author:	FavreFan [ Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:01 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote: FF takes another brutal beating here, just hours after being unbanned. I feel bad here, I shouldn't have done that to "Fresh Meat" I used to think this was a bit but I'm starting to believe you actually think you're winning debates

Author:	Hank Scorpio [ Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:31 am ]
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Caller Bob has destroyed FF here. It's like passing a swollen deer carcass on the side of the road.