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Steve is openly racist where as guys like ltg and RR are clearly very racist but won't just come out and say it.


I literally thought LTG was a mult doing an Elmhurst Steve bit when he started posting regularly. He said he was black and then began listing everything he disliked about the black community. I eventually realized he was a middle classed Bill Cosby minus the rape.



I'm not a black apologist. I could see where you'd make that assumption

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Steve is openly racist where as guys like ltg and RR are clearly very racist but won't just come out and say it.


I literally thought LTG was a mult doing an Elmhurst Steve bit when he started posting regularly. He said he was black and then began listing everything he disliked about the black community. I eventually realized he was a middle classed Bill Cosby minus the rape.



I'm not a black apologist. I could see where you'd make that assumption


I don't agree with your views most of the time but I understand them.

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I appreciate that LTG will state common sense opinions. The guy who called and argued with Goff was not necessarily racist (he may have been, but his call didn't prove it). In fact, he espoused an opinion that LTG has voiced many times. The only difference is that the guy was white.

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I appreciate that LTG will state common sense opinions. The guy who called and argued with Goff was not necessarily racist (he may have been, but his call didn't prove it). In fact, he espoused an opinion that LTG has voiced many times. The only difference is that the guy was white.


Blacks that espouse those views will be called sellouts. There are things that you can attribute to racism and there are things you can't. When you reference it each and every time you diminish it in those instances in which it is legit.

Conversely it bothers me when I see people always argue against something being racist. That is the Fox Nees Angle. No one denies that it exists. They simply deny it during those instances in which it occurs. This enables them to still achieve the desired effect.

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Based on his posts I'm convinced ltg drives a car at least as nice as Goffs .

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leashyourkids wrote:
I appreciate that LTG will state common sense opinions. The guy who called and argued with Goff was not necessarily racist (he may have been, but his call didn't prove it). In fact, he espoused an opinion that LTG has voiced many times. The only difference is that the guy was white.


Blacks that espouse those views will be called sellouts. There are things that you can attribute to racism and there are things you can't. When you reference it each and every time you diminish it in those instances in which it is legit.

Conversely it bothers me when I see people always argue against something being racist. That is the Fox Nees Angle. No one denies that it exists. They simply deny in those instances in which occurs and they will still achieve the desired effect.


I agree, and I didn't agree with the caller. But there's no doubt that if that is a pre-meditated scapegoat, it allows everyone (not just blacks, but all people) to never take responsibility for their actions. If that is a racist statement, then we can't really have a discussion about anything.

Admittedly, a lot of whites who start out with that statement probably are racist, but they shouldn't be labeled as such immediately, and their ideas shouldn't be shot down "just because." If the thought is that bad, then it should be refuted with logic, statistics, etc... not just that Jason Goff drives a Land Rover.

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Based on his posts I'm convinced ltg drives a car at least as nice as Goffs .


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Based on his posts I'm convinced ltg drives a car at least as nice as Goffs .



Actually I used to have the "Reminiscent" Range Montero back in the day. :lol: :lol: The old Montero had a body style similar to a Range but that was about as close as it got.

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Steve is openly racist where as guys like ltg and RR are clearly very racist but won't just come out and say it.


LTG is not racist. Not at all. I may disagree with his opnions but he isn't racist.

RR is a bitter old crank and a racist.

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I appreciate that LTG will state common sense opinions. The guy who called and argued with Goff was not necessarily racist (he may have been, but his call didn't prove it). In fact, he espoused an opinion that LTG has voiced many times. The only difference is that the guy was white.


Blacks that espouse those views will be called sellouts. There are things that you can attribute to racism and there are things you can't. When you reference it each and every time you diminish it in those instances in which it is legit.

Conversely it bothers me when I see people always argue against something being racist. That is the Fox Nees Angle. No one denies that it exists. They simply deny in those instances in which occurs and they will still achieve the desired effect.


I agree, and I didn't agree with the caller. But there's no doubt that if that is a pre-meditated scapegoat, it allows everyone (not just blacks, but all people) to never take responsibility for their actions. If that is a racist statement, then we can't really have a discussion about anything.

Admittedly, a lot of whites who start out with that statement probably are racist, but they shouldn't be labeled as such immediately, and their ideas shouldn't be shot down "just because." If the thought is that bad, then it should be refuted with logic, statistics, etc... not just that Jason Goff drives a Land Rover.


That was Goff's biggest mistake. He should never have made it personal. Goff pulled what my old professor in College used to refer to as the middle class ass trick by referencing material goods.

The guy had some legitimate points but he stereotyped black people in the midst of making his point. Contrary to popular belief not all black neighborhoods in Chicago are crime infested. That guy alas Trump attempted to say that they are.

He may actually have had more cred on the issue than Goff since he admitted to once residing in an area that is crime ridden.

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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
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Steve is openly racist where as guys like ltg and RR are clearly very racist but won't just come out and say it.


LTG is not racist. Not at all. I may disagree with his opnions but he isn't racist.

RR is a bitter old crank and a racist
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Based on?

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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
Hockey Gay wrote:
Steve is openly racist where as guys like ltg and RR are clearly very racist but won't just come out and say it.


LTG is not racist. Not at all. I may disagree with his opnions but he isn't racist.

RR is a bitter old crank and a racist.



:lol: No. RR is no racist. He's not prejudiced either. He's just enraged about Trump being elected.

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I appreciate that LTG will state common sense opinions. The guy who called and argued with Goff was not necessarily racist (he may have been, but his call didn't prove it). In fact, he espoused an opinion that LTG has voiced many times. The only difference is that the guy was white.


Blacks that espouse those views will be called sellouts. There are things that you can attribute to racism and there are things you can't. When you reference it each and every time you diminish it in those instances in which it is legit.

Conversely it bothers me when I see people always argue against something being racist. That is the Fox Nees Angle. No one denies that it exists. They simply deny in those instances in which occurs and they will still achieve the desired effect.


I agree, and I didn't agree with the caller. But there's no doubt that if that is a pre-meditated scapegoat, it allows everyone (not just blacks, but all people) to never take responsibility for their actions. If that is a racist statement, then we can't really have a discussion about anything.

Admittedly, a lot of whites who start out with that statement probably are racist, but they shouldn't be labeled as such immediately, and their ideas shouldn't be shot down "just because." If the thought is that bad, then it should be refuted with logic, statistics, etc... not just that Jason Goff drives a Land Rover.


That was Goff's biggest mistake. He should never have made it personal. Goff pulled what my old professor in College used to refer to as the middle class ass trick by referencing material goods.

The guy had some legitimate points but he stereotyped black people in the midst of making his point. Contrary to popular belief not all black neighborhoods in Chicago are crime infested. That guy alas Trump attempted to say that they are.

He may actually have had more cred on the issue than Goff since he admitted to once residing in an area that is crime ridden.


Per capita, Chicago isn't even the most murderous city in the country.

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LTG is the middle-class middle aged guy that pushed for Clinton Crime Bill and now he's wondering why the family structure is broken. Bullets and bars was the solution for guys like LTG when books and opportunity was the thing that was needed. I understand not wanting certain things in your neighborhood but sometimes "getting rid" of all of them creates bigger problems.

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LTG is the middle-class middle aged guy that pushed for Clinton Crime Bill and now he's wondering why the family structure is broken. Bullets and bars was the solution for guys like LTG when books and opportunity was the thing that was needed. I understand not wanting certain things in your neighborhood but sometimes "getting rid" of all of them creates bigger problems.



LTG- I think this youngblood just called you an Old Head.

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I think he just called him Ted Nugent.

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LTG is the middle-class middle aged guy that pushed for Clinton Crime Bill and now he's wondering why the family structure is broken. Bullets and bars was the solution for guys like LTG when books and opportunity was the thing that was needed. I understand not wanting certain things in your neighborhood but sometimes "getting rid" of all of them creates bigger problems.



LTG- I think this youngblood just called you an Old Head.


He is. I understand where he's coming from and the older I get I continue to resist the temptation to start thinking the way he does. At the same time I make sure my kids don't go to school anywhere near those things.

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why does helping people out and putting criminals in the joint an either/or situation?

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why does helping people out and putting criminals in the joint an either/or situation?


I think considering how devastating an arrest and conviction, especially a felony arrest, can be to future employability, one of those things can run counter to the other.


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All is good on the home front, Nas?

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All is good on the home front, Nas?


He still has another 7 weeks of recovery but he's making progress.

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Steve is openly racist where as guys like ltg and RR are clearly very racist but won't just come out and say it.


LTG is not racist. Not at all. I may disagree with his opnions but he isn't racist.

RR is a bitter old crank and a racist.



:lol: No. RR is no racist. He's not prejudiced either. He's just enraged about Trump being elected.


Ok maybe not racist but he is bitter as fuck. Trump is in his head 24/7

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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
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Steve is openly racist where as guys like ltg and RR are clearly very racist but won't just come out and say it.


LTG is not racist. Not at all. I may disagree with his opnions but he isn't racist.

RR is a bitter old crank and a racist.



:lol: No. RR is no racist. He's not prejudiced either. He's just enraged about Trump being elected.


Ok maybe not racist but he is bitter as fuck. Trump is in his head 24/7


And federalism. He haaaaates dual federalism for some reason.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
ToxicMasculinity wrote:
Hockey Gay wrote:
Steve is openly racist where as guys like ltg and RR are clearly very racist but won't just come out and say it.


LTG is not racist. Not at all. I may disagree with his opnions but he isn't racist.

RR is a bitter old crank and a racist.



:lol: No. RR is no racist. He's not prejudiced either. He's just enraged about Trump being elected.


And Reagan. :lol:

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I think he just called him Ted Nugent.


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why does helping people out and putting criminals in the joint an either/or situation?


I think considering how devastating an arrest and conviction, especially a felony arrest, can be to future employability, one of those things can run counter to the other.


But the felons are kinda being you know felons....

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why does helping people out and putting criminals in the joint an either/or situation?


I think considering how devastating an arrest and conviction, especially a felony arrest, can be to future employability, one of those things can run counter to the other.


But the felons are kinda being you know felons....


Possession of certain kind of substances is a felony. Possession of certain others above a certain quantity is likewise a felony. That's a problem.


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LTG is the middle-class middle aged guy that pushed for Clinton Crime Bill and now he's wondering why the family structure is broken. Bullets and bars was the solution for guys like LTG when books and opportunity was the thing that was needed. I understand not wanting certain things in your neighborhood but sometimes "getting rid" of all of them creates bigger problems.



LTG- I think this youngblood just called you an Old Head.



Not that old.

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