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Author:  Kirkwood [ Thu May 25, 2017 9:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
The concept of a city having "culture" is such bullshit. Go cling to your culture as your taxes go up and your schools go to shit

Why are so mad that Chicago isn't Nebraska?
Author:  Caller Bob [ Thu May 25, 2017 9:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
What is the "Chicago culture"?

Racism and rampant criminality?


Word. This culture discussion is nonsense.

Corruption is Chicago's culture. Let's cling to that! :lol:


Also great, getting lectured on culture from a group of people that don't live here, just like to visit here. Mike should go check out some culture in Garfield Park.
Author:  Brick [ Thu May 25, 2017 9:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Ok, this is the standard "complain about the city I live in" thread. Carry on.
Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Thu May 25, 2017 9:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Ok, this is the standard "complain about the city I live in" thread. Carry on.

for many of us it's complain about the city we no longer live in.

I know a lot of other people who moved away from Chicago, they never have that itch to move back.
Author:  Kirkwood [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Ok, this is the standard "complain about the city I live in" thread. Carry on.

Yup!
Author:  Douchebag [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Ok, this is the standard "complain about the city I live in" thread. Carry on.

for many of us it's complain about the city we no longer live in.

What's going on in Raleigh tonight?
Author:  pittmike [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Caller Bob wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
The only pro regarding Illinois/Chicago is "nostalgia" and the competitive wages which are negated by the massive taxation.

This state has so much potential, if we could only take every liberal politician in this state and drown them in Lake Michigan.
The food is top notch. You have every sport you would ever want to attend in close proximity. You have great architecture and tons of entertainment options including a large grouping of plays. You get two airports that can get you anywhere without a stop. You have more stable housing situations because you aren't reliant on the big corporation in town deciding to leave. You have a wide variety of housing options from high rises to suburban living.


I agree with you. Chicago is an awesome place to visit.

^ding we have a winner, Chicago is a great visit, awful place to live


I like PittMike, but I don't understand him at times. It's like he decides to just mindless type stuff without any thought. And he contradicts himself all the time. He starts with some "concern trolling" about the problems in Illinois and blaming liberals(which is correct), then goes off on this tangent on how Illinois is screwed(hamstrung) no matter what and it's not the politicians fault.


I never said it was not politicians fault. I think it very likely is.
Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Jbi11s wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
I think I figured out Chicago culture, it's saying you're not racist and want to live with minorities/have your kids around minorities only to live behind an all-white gated community and send your kids to an all-white private school. :lol:

Yup... Most segregated major city in the country.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/05/news/economy/chicago-segregated/

Sad thiing is, that is by design, not accident
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Douchebag wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Ok, this is the standard "complain about the city I live in" thread. Carry on.

for many of us it's complain about the city we no longer live in.

What's going on in Raleigh tonight?


Paging Jackref.
Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Douchebag wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Ok, this is the standard "complain about the city I live in" thread. Carry on.

for many of us it's complain about the city we no longer live in.

What's going on in Raleigh tonight?

I don't live in Raleigh, but probably a better standard of living than you'll find in Chicago
Author:  Kirkwood [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Douchebag wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Ok, this is the standard "complain about the city I live in" thread. Carry on.

for many of us it's complain about the city we no longer live in.

What's going on in Raleigh tonight?

Tea Party outing at Bojangles. Bitch about taxing us to pay for libraries.
Author:  Jbi11s [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
I think I figured out Chicago culture, it's saying you're not racist and want to live with minorities/have your kids around minorities only to live behind an all-white gated community and send your kids to an all-white private school. :lol:

Yup... Most segregated major city in the country.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/05/news/economy/chicago-segregated/

Sad thiing is, that is by design, not accident

Absolutely agree.
Author:  Brick [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Ok, this is the standard "complain about the city I live in" thread. Carry on.

for many of us it's complain about the city we no longer live in.

I know a lot of other people who moved away from Chicago, they never have that itch to move back.
This is approaching strawman territory.

No one has said that if you leave Chicago you'll be spending every day wishing you could somehow return. I probably won't ever end up living back in the Chicago area. That has to do with other circumstances though.

I do know plenty of people that went away for college and returned and others who moved back after living some place else too.
Author:  Don Tiny [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Kirkwood wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Ok, this is the standard "complain about the city I live in" thread. Carry on.

Yup!


Big Brane wrote:
Maybe NOW You and YoUR IDiOT FRIeNDS NOW why IM NOT LonGEr there??!
Author:  Jaw Breaker [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
RFDC wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Spoiler alert: You'll leave Illinois and find that other places have problems too.

The only reason to leave Illinois is if you are tired of the weather especially in the winter.

I don't think the weather is the only reason.

But you are right every place has their own problems.

Leaving the Chicagoland was a great choice for me.

My home mortgage is less per month than I was paying for a 1 bedroom apt in 1997.

And property taxes here.....crazy low. I get a good laugh anytime I hear people around here bitch about their property taxes.

Missouri right? I've heard real estate is super low out there.

yep. mortgage plus prop tax is less than $500 a month.


Double wide?
Author:  Regular Reader [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Jbi11s wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
I think I figured out Chicago culture, it's saying you're not racist and want to live with minorities/have your kids around minorities only to live behind an all-white gated community and send your kids to an all-white private school. :lol:

Yup... Most segregated major city in the country.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/05/news/economy/chicago-segregated/


And the ones who made it that way (& their kids) are the main ones talking only about today's problems and how the city has "gone to shit" while demanding every penny of their multiple city/state/union underfunded pensions while turning into lizards in AZ or sudden "fiscal &religious conservatives" :wink: in Death's New South waiting rooms.
Author:  formerlyknownas [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
The concept of a city having "culture" is such bullshit. Go cling to your culture as your taxes go up and your schools go to shit

Have you been to Houston??

It's not as true as it was even when I was a kid, but Chicago is as much as a concept as a city. Some people like many aspects of Chicago culture. They identify with it. It may be bullshit to some people, but not others. I consider myself a Chicagoan almost before an American.

Having said that, staying here--and moving back to practically my old neighborhood--was probably a mistake. Sometimes sentiment and identity get in the way of good financial success.
Author:  Douchebag [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Jaw Breaker wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Spoiler alert: You'll leave Illinois and find that other places have problems too.

The only reason to leave Illinois is if you are tired of the weather especially in the winter.

I don't think the weather is the only reason.

But you are right every place has their own problems.

Leaving the Chicagoland was a great choice for me.

My home mortgage is less per month than I was paying for a 1 bedroom apt in 1997.

And property taxes here.....crazy low. I get a good laugh anytime I hear people around here bitch about their property taxes.

Missouri right? I've heard real estate is super low out there.

yep. mortgage plus prop tax is less than $500 a month.


Double wide?

:lol: :lol:
Author:  formerlyknownas [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
I think I figured out Chicago culture, it's saying you're not racist and want to live with minorities/have your kids around minorities only to live behind an all-white gated community and send your kids to an all-white private school. :lol:

that's the gentrified Chicago, circa 1990-present
Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Regular Reader wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
I think I figured out Chicago culture, it's saying you're not racist and want to live with minorities/have your kids around minorities only to live behind an all-white gated community and send your kids to an all-white private school. :lol:

Yup... Most segregated major city in the country.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/05/news/economy/chicago-segregated/


And the ones who made it that way (& their kids) are the main ones talking only about today's problems and how the city has "gone to shit" while demanding every penny of their multiple city/state/union underfunded pensions while turning into lizards in AZ or sudden "fiscal &religious conservatives" :wink: in Death's New South waiting rooms.


:lol: Every time our property tax bills come out I have one friend who calls me up to complain about our mutual friend who is a 55 year old retired firefighter living in Arizona.
Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
I think I figured out Chicago culture, it's saying you're not racist and want to live with minorities/have your kids around minorities only to live behind an all-white gated community and send your kids to an all-white private school. :lol:

Yup... Most segregated major city in the country.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/05/news/economy/chicago-segregated/


And the ones who made it that way (& their kids) are the main ones talking only about today's problems and how the city has "gone to shit" while demanding every penny of their multiple city/state/union underfunded pensions while turning into lizards in AZ or sudden "fiscal &religious conservatives" :wink: in Death's New South waiting rooms.


:lol: Every time our property tax bills come out I have one friend who calls me up to complain about our mutual friend who is a 55 year old retired firefighter living in Arizona.

Sad thing is your taxes will be going up again when they have to cover the shortfall due to your state's awful constitution. Court rulings have turned it into a suicide pact
Author:  Regular Reader [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
I think I figured out Chicago culture, it's saying you're not racist and want to live with minorities/have your kids around minorities only to live behind an all-white gated community and send your kids to an all-white private school. :lol:

Yup... Most segregated major city in the country.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/05/news/economy/chicago-segregated/


And the ones who made it that way (& their kids) are the main ones talking only about today's problems and how the city has "gone to shit" while demanding every penny of their multiple city/state/union underfunded pensions while turning into lizards in AZ or sudden "fiscal &religious conservatives" :wink: in Death's New South waiting rooms.


:lol: Every time our property tax bills come out I have one friend who calls me up to complain about our mutual friend who is a 55 year old retired firefighter living in Arizona.


Every time I see the parking toll boxes & red light cameras, I think of the times as a kid I remember walking past Burge's torture room on the 2nd floor rear of the old police station on 91st & Cottage Grove. And think of him getting extradited from Tampa.
Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Regular Reader wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
I think I figured out Chicago culture, it's saying you're not racist and want to live with minorities/have your kids around minorities only to live behind an all-white gated community and send your kids to an all-white private school. :lol:

Yup... Most segregated major city in the country.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/05/news/economy/chicago-segregated/


And the ones who made it that way (& their kids) are the main ones talking only about today's problems and how the city has "gone to shit" while demanding every penny of their multiple city/state/union underfunded pensions while turning into lizards in AZ or sudden "fiscal &religious conservatives" :wink: in Death's New South waiting rooms.


:lol: Every time our property tax bills come out I have one friend who calls me up to complain about our mutual friend who is a 55 year old retired firefighter living in Arizona.


Every time I see the parking toll boxes & red light cameras, I think of the times as a kid I remember walking past Burge's torture room on the 2nd floor rear of the old police station on 91st & Cottage Grove. And think of him getting extradited from Tampa.

You know the real insult there? Your tax dollars are paying all of those settlements. You as a Chicago resident are paying for that, not the police pension fund.

It would be nice if abuses by city workers were paid out of the appropriate pension fund, things would get cleaned up real quickly then.
Author:  Bagels [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Ok, this is the standard "complain about the city I live in" thread. Carry on.


also the standard "board racists come out" thread
Author:  Regular Reader [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
You know the real insult there? Your tax dollars are paying all of those settlements. You as a Chicago resident are paying for that, not the police pension fund.

It would be nice if abuses by city workers were paid out of the appropriate pension fund, things would get cleaned up real quickly then.


Oh, I've advocated that for years. Thin Blue Line my ass.
Author:  formerlyknownas [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Nothing worse than a former Chicagoan living in utopia--and coming back to tell you nothing you don't already know.
Author:  Douchebag [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
formerlyknownas wrote:
Nothing worse than a former Chicagoan living in utopia--and coming back to tell you nothing you don't already know.

Utopia = Omaha?
Author:  Regular Reader [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Douchebag wrote:
formerlyknownas wrote:
Nothing worse than a former Chicagoan living in utopia--and coming back to tell you nothing you don't already know.

Utopia = Omaha?


Not that Omaha needs me defending it, but visiting there, I was surprised at how nice Omaha actually was. My preconception of it being a flat Salt Lake City was way off.
Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Regular Reader wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
formerlyknownas wrote:
Nothing worse than a former Chicagoan living in utopia--and coming back to tell you nothing you don't already know.

Utopia = Omaha?


Not that Omaha needs me defending it, but visiting there, I was surprised at how nice Omaha actually was. My preconception of it being a flat Salt Lake City was way off.

They have the 2nd best zoo in the country, College World Series, the Missouri River, and a nice downtown. Douchebag should take a trip there.
Author:  formerlyknownas [ Thu May 25, 2017 10:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: People leaving Chicago
Douchebag wrote:
formerlyknownas wrote:
Nothing worse than a former Chicagoan living in utopia--and coming back to tell you nothing you don't already know.

Utopia = Omaha?

i have no idea who lives there. what i meant was (etc.)


i have friends in omaha, though, and it's a great place
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