Big Cat and PFT = good
Barstool = shit

I refuse to take in anything associated with Barstool. Maybe ESPN will steal them.

Not likely, Big Cat has points in the company and giving that up would be kicking aside more money than ESPN could ever give him. Besides, these guys need to be uncensored, not working for the fucking mouse. Besides, they need to be on the outside of sports journalism in order to pull shit like PFT sneaking into Super Bowl Media Day or have the duo prank call into the NFL Rules Committee conference call.

Even if you don't like Barstool as a whole, give PMT a listen. It's a different kind of podcast than the usual Barstool product and is very much worth a listen.

Not likely, Big Cat has points in the company and giving that up would be kicking aside more money than ESPN could ever give him. Besides, these guys need to be uncensored, not working for the fucking mouse.

Even if you don't like Barstool as a whole, give PMT a listen. It's a different kind of podcast than the usual Barstool product and is very much worth a listen.

i read the article, are those "listeners" stats skewed? does that include people who have their podcasts download automatically? I'd have to imagine a good chunk of those never get around to actually listening.

I don't think you are correct. Barstool only got a $10-$15 million valuation when they sold 51% of the company. ESPN could pay him $10 to $15 million over a few years without even thinking twice about it. It's assumed he owns 5-10% of the company now after the sale. They would need to have massive growth to make it worth more than what ESPN could pay simply as an employee.

Barstool has done an impressive job of building something out of nothing but really they don't have a product that is built to last. Even you are basically like "These guys do a podcast but it is different!". That means the core business of barstool is extremely limited in terms of true huge earnings potential.

That value was 18 months ago and their listener base exploded (that sale was done even before Pardon My Take was a podcast)

Furthermore they launched Barstool Heartland since then, got an NFL punter to quit his job, and became mainstream since Chernin bought the majority share. I'd say the valuation since then is significantly higher as the last year has been Barstool's largest in terms of growth.

Even if ESPN could pay him what his share is worth, it is not a move they would make. Being under the watch of Disney Corp would be awful for what Big Cat and PFT do with their show. They need to be in a position where they can attack anyone and go anyplace without the oversight that comes with a large corporation.

That value was 18 months ago and their listener base exploded (that sale was done even before Pardon My Take was a podcast)

Furthermore they launched Barstool Heartland since then, got an NFL punter to quit his job, and became mainstream since Chernin bought the majority share. I'd say the valuation since then is significantly higher as the last year has been Barstool's largest in terms of growth.

Even if ESPN could pay him what his share is worth, it is not a move they would make. Being under the watch of Disney Corp would be awful for what Big Cat and PFT do with their show. They need to be in a position where they can attack anyone and go anyplace without the oversight that comes with a large corporation.

Do you think they are in this for the "love of fandom" or something? IF ESPN gives him a large sum of money, he's taking it.

Do you think they are in this for the "love of fandom" or something? IF ESPN gives him a large sum of money, he's taking it.

i read the article, are those "listeners" stats skewed? does that include people who have their podcasts download automatically? I'd have to imagine a good chunk of those never get around to actually listening.

It's a blog network. Even if we assume they are worth $100 million, which would be 6.6 times what they sold 51% of the company for he still pockets $5 million to $10 million assuming he isn't getting diluted even further as time goes on. He could make that at ESPN in one or two years.

Things change fast especially with things as fragile as blog networks.

Ogie suspiciously silent.

Ogie suspiciously silent.

Official news is they will have a Tuesday show at midnights on ESPN2. It will still be Barstool produced and the late night hour means they pretty much can be themselves.

Best of both worlds with this deal. The podcast will remain as is, but Vanny Woodhead will get some more road time now. The show will be called "Barstool Van Talk." The fact that the Barstool brand remains in the name really drives home the fact this will still be a Barstool show.

I would just love to see Julie's meltdown over this.

I'm shocked Julie hasn't gone after ESPN yet. It's pretty funny looking back at the Julie/BC fights on twitter years ago and seeing the different paths their careers took. Very happy for the PMT guys, they deserve it.

From the leaked stills, Scott Van Pelt will be on tonight's show. Should be great as he and Big Cat always have decent banter.

big cat is the only person there i follow on twitter and apparently sam ponder got a little frustrated on twitter about them getting a show. pointing to portnoy blogging about how garbage she is and kats in some podcast making fun of her kid.

so that was fun to follow.