She's got my vote. Better than Rauner and whatever Dem gets trotted out. Literally trotted out in Pritzker's case. I've already got my house picked out in Wisconsin if/when Pritzker gets elected.

She is literally Illinois "Michelle Bachmah".

Rauner could be a great governor if it wasn't for the Libtards in this State fighting him at every stop. You really thing this Caller Bob is going to do a better job than Rauner? Especially when 1/2 her time will be wasted on railing against gay people(and other stupid social issues that don't mater)?

Kind of a clown car assortment this year. Some are mathemeticians. Some are named Jeanne Ives. I don't know how it they got started. I don't know what they've done with their lives.

Straight up business, no bible thumping bullshit.

yup. brings his lunch pail to work everyday !

Crack jokes all you want, but if this nut job Ives wins you will be begging for someone like Rauner back.

Is it possible to get someone pro-education and lower our property taxes?

You would have to vote out the democratic machine. Illinois is pretty much fucked though. With pension obligations, the reality is they will never get out of it. It's ashame a state can final for bankruptcy because that is really what they need to do.

She's got my vote. Better than Rauner and whatever Dem gets trotted out. Literally trotted out in Pritzker's case. I've already got my house picked out in Wisconsin if/when Pritzker gets elected.

Pensions being Constitutionally protected might be the dumbest fucking thing ever in the history of this state.

And I love the pro-education argument. First off, who is actually anti-education? And second, pro-education is just a synonym for "throw more money at education". Chicago spends around $18,000.00 a year per student. And their test scores and graduation rate are stellar. Some suburbs spend as high as $30K per student. Illinois has some of the highest paid teachers in the country. I should know, I am married to a teacher. There is no shortage of money in education. If the unfunded pension wasn't crushing everything else, it might not be so bad. But honestly, they just need to get some actually fiscally responsible people in there who care more about the students instead of lining union pockets. People that actually allocate the money they have to what is important. Because to "pro-education" people, they never have an answer for how much money they need. The answer is always just More.

Pensions being Constitutionally protected might be the dumbest fucking thing ever in the history of this state.

And I love the pro-education argument. First off, who is actually anti-education? And second, pro-education is just a synonym for "throw more money at education". Chicago spends around $18,000.00 a year per student. And their test scores and graduation rate are stellar. Some suburbs spend as high as $30K per student. Illinois has some of the highest paid teachers in the country. I should know, I am married to a teacher. There is no shortage of money in education. If the unfunded pension wasn't crushing everything else, it might not be so bad. But honestly, they just need to get some actually fiscally responsible people in there who care more about the students instead of lining union pockets. People that actually allocate the money they have to what is important. Because to "pro-education" people, they never have an answer for how much money they need. The answer is always just More.

You can throw $100K a year at students and it won't matter.

Until the family is rebuilt in our society, education will continue to fail. And MANY teachers will be unfairly blamed for its failure.

And no amount of money is going to change that.

Ives will beat Rauner in the primary.

Agreed.

It's a noble goal to try and pay parents and family to care, but you just can't.

I don't think it is always that simple though. MANY schools are failing these kids.

And just look which group wants to take away funding for early childhood education. The undisputed king of putting kids of all income levels on a reasonably fair education track

Crest, I don't disagree with your general sentiment, but it largely ignores the millions of stories of kids truly motivated by quality educational experiences and educators.

Even where there wasn't a great family structure or emphasis on formal education

Crest, I don't disagree with your general sentiment, but it largely ignores the millions of stories of kids truly motivated by quality educational experiences and educators.

Even where there wasn't a great family structure or emphasis on formal education

Again, early development at home can't be replaced by a pre school teacher.

Children learn about these things at home first.

If there is no hope at home, it's even harder to find at school more often than not.

Coming from a loving home with educated parents increases the odds that the child will do well in school and life. There is no question about it. The same is true for having access to early childhood education. Those things aren't magic bullets and they don't cover up the failures of shitty schools in poor and minority communities.

I know enough parents who are sending their kids to failing schools. Not because they don't care but because they simply don't know better. It's the neighborhood school. The kids may even be doing well in the school. That will change instantly once that child goes to a school that doesn't suck. When you can take 1 school's 10 best students and place them elsewhere and they become average to above average students that's not parental failure. MANY of these awful and poorly funded schools are in poor and minority communities.

Change that and you'll start to see different outcomes. You can't continue giving poor and minority kids mush and expect the majority to turn it into a gourmet meal.