Chicago Fanatics Message Board
http://chicagofanatics.com/

It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Again
http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=116070
Page 6 of 12

Author:  Alfredrick Hughes [ Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

These guys suck!

Author:  Tad Queasy [ Sat Mar 27, 2021 4:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

They had plenty of opportunities, they just couldn't hit their damn shots.

Author:  Seacrest [ Sat Mar 27, 2021 4:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

Tad Queasy wrote:
They had plenty of opportunities, they just couldn't hit their damn shots.



And they couldn't recover from being put behind the 8 ball by Moser's coaching in the first half.

Author:  good dolphin [ Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

That was a good run this year. I hoped to make it to today with a shot against Houston.

There is lots of intrigue to this early off season with who stays or goes. They could be anywhere from a top 25 team heading into next year to a middle of the pack MVC team depending on what people decide for their futures.

Author:  Nardi [ Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

Seacrest wrote:
Tad Queasy wrote:
They had plenty of opportunities, they just couldn't hit their damn shots.



And they couldn't recover from being put behind the 8 ball by Moser's coaching in the first half.

A bad take. Can't coach up 1-13 and most were decent looks. If you've watched this team, they aren't that gifted offensively.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

Porter Moser going to Oklahoma.

Author:  RFDC [ Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

Terry's Peeps wrote:
Porter Moser going to Oklahoma.

now I thought he had family money and no interest in leaving Chicago?

Author:  Tommywilliam [ Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

RFDC wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Porter Moser going to Oklahoma.

now I thought he had family money and no interest in leaving Chicago?


Smart move.Cash in while you can.

Author:  Tall Midget [ Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

RFDC wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Porter Moser going to Oklahoma.

now I thought he had family money and no interest in leaving Chicago?


I guess he doesn't realize that money can't buy happiness.

Author:  Nardi [ Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

It's time to not pay attention to the Ramblers

Author:  Seacrest [ Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

Tall Midget wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Porter Moser going to Oklahoma.

now I thought he had family money and no interest in leaving Chicago?


I guess he doesn't realize that money can't buy happiness.


He will realize that the moment the plane touches down in Norman!!!

Author:  Seacrest [ Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

Nardi wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Tad Queasy wrote:
They had plenty of opportunities, they just couldn't hit their damn shots.



And they couldn't recover from being put behind the 8 ball by Moser's coaching in the first half.

A bad take. Can't coach up 1-13 and most were decent looks. If you've watched this team, they aren't that gifted offensively.


I watched a team score 42 points in the second half once their coach switched to an offense specifically designed to attack a 2-3 zone.

He will fail in Norman, and return to Loyola like Leito returned to DePaul.

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

RFDC wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Porter Moser going to Oklahoma.

now I thought he had family money and no interest in leaving Chicago?


The money wasn't outrageously better. However, it's stressful knowing most years you have to win your conference tournament in order to make the NCAA, no matter how great of a season you might have had otherwise. Meanwhile the sixth place team in the big 12 will make it.

Oklahoma doesn't seem like a demanding job. Lon Kruger is a good coach, not a great coach and he was able to quietly exist there for a decade.

Author:  Tall Midget [ Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

Loyola hired Denzel Valentine's brother to be its new head basketball coach?

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

Nardi wrote:
It's time to not pay attention to the Ramblers


Don't be so sure about that. Valentine has seemed to keep things together in terms of the recruiting class and returning talent. It sounds like they will lose Krutwig but Williamson and Uguak will return. Those are your defensive centerpieces.

They have a couple of pretty productive grad transfers coming in from the Ivy League to transition from Krutwig. They also have two all area players coming in as freshman.

I really look forward to Kennedy getting into the starting lineup and playing major minutes.

MVC is going to be strong next year but they should still be very competitive

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

Tall Midget wrote:
Loyola hired Denzel Valentine's brother to be its new head basketball coach?


He was Moser's assistant in charge of defense and their top recruiter. He had been with them for several years, even though he is young.

Defense was their defining characteristic the past few seasons.

Author:  shakes [ Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

good dolphin wrote:
Nardi wrote:
It's time to not pay attention to the Ramblers


Don't be so sure about that. Valentine has seemed to keep things together in terms of the recruiting class and returning talent. It sounds like they will lose Krutwig but Williamson and Uguak will return. Those are your defensive centerpieces.

They have a couple of pretty productive grad transfers coming in from the Ivy League to transition from Krutwig. They also have two all area players coming in as freshman.

I really look forward to Kennedy getting into the starting lineup and playing major minutes.

MVC is going to be strong next year but they should still be very competitive


Yesefu transferring from Drake to Kanas (moving on up!) should help.

Author:  Tall Midget [ Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

good dolphin wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Loyola hired Denzel Valentine's brother to be its new head basketball coach?


He was Moser's assistant in charge of defense and their top recruiter. He had been with them for several years, even though he is young.

Defense was their defining characteristic the past few seasons.


I don't know much about him, but he wasn't that impressive in his interview with Mully & Hanley.

Author:  Darkside [ Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

Is it time to resume ignoring the Ramblers again?

Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

Darkside wrote:
Is it time to resume ignoring the Ramblers again?


They have a great recruiting class for next year and Valentine has kept their commitments: two all city players and just yesterday signed a high school all america.

I think this thing is becoming a real program, not just a team that wins because of a coach's system.

On the flip side, I think Krutwig is going to go to Oklahoma for a year.

Seems stupid to me. If I were a player with a fringe chance at an NBA career but one year of college I could spend anywhere, I'd be heading down to the U and saying:

Image

Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

good dolphin wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Is it time to resume ignoring the Ramblers again?


They have a great recruiting class for next year and Valentine has kept their commitments: two all city players and just yesterday signed a high school all america.

I think this thing is becoming a real program, not just a team that wins because of a coach's system.

On the flip side, I think Krutwig is going to go to Oklahoma for a year.

Seems stupid to me. If I were a player with a fringe chance at an NBA career but one year of college I could spend anywhere, I'd be heading down to the U and saying:

Image
If Krutwig really is a fringe NBA candidate he would be better off staying at Loyola. He will be a 4th or 5th option on a good college team and his stats will almost certainly suffer. To this day I still believe Kenny Battle would have been a lottery pick if he had stayed at NIU. He was thoroughly dominating the MAC and was on track to break multiple league records - including some that had been recently set by Ron Harper. The Big 10 revealed him for what he was: a hard-working but undersized 3 with limited range.

Author:  Tall Midget [ Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Is it time to resume ignoring the Ramblers again?


They have a great recruiting class for next year and Valentine has kept their commitments: two all city players and just yesterday signed a high school all america.

I think this thing is becoming a real program, not just a team that wins because of a coach's system.

On the flip side, I think Krutwig is going to go to Oklahoma for a year.

Seems stupid to me. If I were a player with a fringe chance at an NBA career but one year of college I could spend anywhere, I'd be heading down to the U and saying:

Image
If Krutwig really is a fringe NBA candidate he would be better off staying at Loyola. He will be a 4th or 5th option on a good college team and his stats will almost certainly suffer. To this day I still believe Kenny Battle would have been a lottery pick if he had stayed at NIU. He was thoroughly dominating the MAC and was on track to break multiple league records - including some that had been recently set by Ron Harper. The Big 10 revealed him for what he was: a hard-working but undersized 3 with limited range.


Hasn't Krutwig already been the #1 option on a couple good or very good college teams?

Author:  shakes [ Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Is it time to resume ignoring the Ramblers again?


They have a great recruiting class for next year and Valentine has kept their commitments: two all city players and just yesterday signed a high school all america.

I think this thing is becoming a real program, not just a team that wins because of a coach's system.

On the flip side, I think Krutwig is going to go to Oklahoma for a year.

Seems stupid to me. If I were a player with a fringe chance at an NBA career but one year of college I could spend anywhere, I'd be heading down to the U and saying:

Image
If Krutwig really is a fringe NBA candidate he would be better off staying at Loyola. He will be a 4th or 5th option on a good college team and his stats will almost certainly suffer. To this day I still believe Kenny Battle would have been a lottery pick if he had stayed at NIU. He was thoroughly dominating the MAC and was on track to break multiple league records - including some that had been recently set by Ron Harper. The Big 10 revealed him for what he was: a hard-working but undersized 3 with limited range.


That's bullshit. He'll be one of the main options on an ok Oklahoma team. And he'll be playing in one of the best conferences in the country. Finally get to get some exposure more than once every 4 years and doesn't have to play second fiddle to a 100 year old nun. He's not a fringe NBA player, but if he proves he can play well over the course of a whole season in the Big12 he might end up a fringe NBA player.

Also its not like he isn't going in as the coaches favorite anyway.

I would love to see another year of Krutwig in college and especially at a school that is on national TV vs good opponents on a weekly basis.

Author:  Brick [ Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

I'm all for letting players transfer but I really hope it doesn't become a trend with the new transfer rules that your best players start following the coach to their new job. I would guess the NCAA would put in a rule soon though about coaches not being able to "recruit" players they've already coached.

Author:  Nardi [ Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

shakes wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Is it time to resume ignoring the Ramblers again?


They have a great recruiting class for next year and Valentine has kept their commitments: two all city players and just yesterday signed a high school all america.

I think this thing is becoming a real program, not just a team that wins because of a coach's system.

On the flip side, I think Krutwig is going to go to Oklahoma for a year.

Seems stupid to me. If I were a player with a fringe chance at an NBA career but one year of college I could spend anywhere, I'd be heading down to the U and saying:

Image
If Krutwig really is a fringe NBA candidate he would be better off staying at Loyola. He will be a 4th or 5th option on a good college team and his stats will almost certainly suffer. To this day I still believe Kenny Battle would have been a lottery pick if he had stayed at NIU. He was thoroughly dominating the MAC and was on track to break multiple league records - including some that had been recently set by Ron Harper. The Big 10 revealed him for what he was: a hard-working but undersized 3 with limited range.


That's bullshit. He'll be one of the main options on an ok Oklahoma team. And he'll be playing in one of the best conferences in the country. Finally get to get some exposure more than once every 4 years and doesn't have to play second fiddle to a 100 year old nun. He's not a fringe NBA player, but if he proves he can play well over the course of a whole season in the Big12 he might end up a fringe NBA player.

Also its not like he isn't going in as the coaches favorite anyway.

I would love to see another year of Krutwig in college and especially at a school that is on national TV vs good opponents on a weekly basis.

When I think Krutwig, I think about all the bruises he has from hitting his ceiling.

Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

He was always a great facilitator. Surround him with great players and he will only look better. Moser's offense would still run through him.

He can play in the Big 12 offensively. He's always looked good on that end of the court against the big programs on the schedule.

I think he will get exposed defensively.

No big deal though. I don't think he will get any more than a tryout from an NBA team. His future, if he chooses, is in a foreign league and he has four years of good tape to show.

Author:  Darkside [ Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

good dolphin wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Is it time to resume ignoring the Ramblers again?


They have a great recruiting class for next year and Valentine has kept their commitments: two all city players and just yesterday signed a high school all america.

I think this thing is becoming a real program, not just a team that wins because of a coach's system.

On the flip side, I think Krutwig is going to go to Oklahoma for a year.

Seems stupid to me. If I were a player with a fringe chance at an NBA career but one year of college I could spend anywhere, I'd be heading down to the U and saying:

Image

You make me sick when you speak, Morris.

Author:  shakes [ Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

Brick wrote:
I'm all for letting players transfer but I really hope it doesn't become a trend with the new transfer rules that your best players start following the coach to their new job. I would guess the NCAA would put in a rule soon though about coaches not being able to "recruit" players they've already coached.


meh, I don't think it's a problem considering you are talking about a few cases every year at most. I love the new player movement transfer rule. Makes college offseason more exciting than NBA free agency period.

Love that big time programs can't just go out and load their bench with 5 and 4 star recruits and expect them to sit there and wait their turn without risking those guys up and leaving for greener pastures.

Author:  shakes [ Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

Nardi wrote:
shakes wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Is it time to resume ignoring the Ramblers again?


They have a great recruiting class for next year and Valentine has kept their commitments: two all city players and just yesterday signed a high school all america.

I think this thing is becoming a real program, not just a team that wins because of a coach's system.

On the flip side, I think Krutwig is going to go to Oklahoma for a year.

Seems stupid to me. If I were a player with a fringe chance at an NBA career but one year of college I could spend anywhere, I'd be heading down to the U and saying:

Image
If Krutwig really is a fringe NBA candidate he would be better off staying at Loyola. He will be a 4th or 5th option on a good college team and his stats will almost certainly suffer. To this day I still believe Kenny Battle would have been a lottery pick if he had stayed at NIU. He was thoroughly dominating the MAC and was on track to break multiple league records - including some that had been recently set by Ron Harper. The Big 10 revealed him for what he was: a hard-working but undersized 3 with limited range.


That's bullshit. He'll be one of the main options on an ok Oklahoma team. And he'll be playing in one of the best conferences in the country. Finally get to get some exposure more than once every 4 years and doesn't have to play second fiddle to a 100 year old nun. He's not a fringe NBA player, but if he proves he can play well over the course of a whole season in the Big12 he might end up a fringe NBA player.

Also its not like he isn't going in as the coaches favorite anyway.

I would love to see another year of Krutwig in college and especially at a school that is on national TV vs good opponents on a weekly basis.

When I think Krutwig, I think about all the bruises he has from hitting his ceiling.


fair enough, but it's a pretty nice ceiling for a college player.

Author:  Brick [ Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: It's Time To Start Paying Attention To The Ramblers Agai

shakes wrote:
meh, I don't think it's a problem considering you are talking about a few cases every year at most. I love the new player movement transfer rule. Makes college offseason more exciting than NBA free agency period.
Hopefully it's a few cases every year but it's still a new rule.

shakes wrote:
Love that big time programs can't just go out and load their bench with 5 and 4 star recruits and expect them to sit there and wait their turn without risking those guys up and leaving for greener pastures.
It's going to really hurt the mid majors more than anyone which I'm fine with.

Page 6 of 12 All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
https://www.phpbb.com/