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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

It's a shame.

NCAA Football is better when ND is on top.

Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country.

They get heat because they won’t join a conference.

It's a shame.

NCAA Football is better when ND is on top.

Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

It's a shame.

NCAA Football is better when ND is on top.

Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country.

Why is it better?

I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc.

The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse.

Big Chicagoan wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

It's a shame.

NCAA Football is better when ND is on top.

Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country.

They get heat because they won’t join a conference.

I meant heat in a positive publicity way.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

It's a shame.

NCAA Football is better when ND is on top.

Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country.

Why is it better?

I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc.

The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse.

Jbi11s wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

It's a shame.

NCAA Football is better when ND is on top.

Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country.

Why is it better?

I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc.

The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse.

exactly. I liked ND during the Lou Holtz era but then they became so arrogant of a program. I watch NCAA FB once or twice a year and that's the champ games. I like seeing the best teams. Not wannabe's like ND.

I didnt even need to watch ND all year to know they weren't going to compete w/ the top teams.

Jbi11s wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

It's a shame.

NCAA Football is better when ND is on top.

Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country.

Why is it better?

I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc.

The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse.

It's like the Yankees or the Cowboys or the Lakers or the Bears - there are certain organizations that draw more interest.

Love them or hate them...and it seems everybody here hates them...I don't... but it just seems to be true.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

It's a shame.

NCAA Football is better when ND is on top.

Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country.

Why is it better?

I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc.

The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse.

ND isn't in the same category as the Lakers/ Yankees and Cowboys. Bears aren't either. ND is more of a regional following now.

HawaiiYou wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

It's a shame.

NCAA Football is better when ND is on top.

Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country.

Why is it better?

I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc.

The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse.

More arrogant than the Lou Holtz era?

I'd ask if you watched any of that but you are probably watching it right now.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

It's a shame.

NCAA Football is better when ND is on top.

Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country.

Why is it better?

I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc.

The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse.

ND isn't in the same category as the Lakers/ Yankees and Cowboys. Bears aren't either. ND is more of a regional following now.

Jbi11s wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

It's a shame.

NCAA Football is better when ND is on top.

Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country.

Why is it better?

I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc.

The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse.

HawaiiYou wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

It's a shame.

NCAA Football is better when ND is on top.

Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country.

Why is it better?

I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc.

The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse.

ND isn't in the same category as the Lakers/ Yankees and Cowboys. Bears aren't either. ND is more of a regional following now.

I can't stand them, but they are Cowboys level national.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

It's a shame.

NCAA Football is better when ND is on top.

Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country.

Why is it better?

I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc.

The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse.

I honestly think information accessibility is killing these older notions of certain markets bringing more interest than other, more qualified organizations/programs.

That could just be the millennial in me, but yeah. I'm over the legacy garbage.

HawaiiYou wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

It's a shame.

NCAA Football is better when ND is on top.

Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country.

Why is it better?

I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc.

The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse.

ND isn't in the same category as the Lakers/ Yankees and Cowboys. Bears aren't either. ND is more of a regional following now.

I can't stand them, but they are Cowboys level national.

Regular Reader wrote:

HawaiiYou wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

It's a shame.

NCAA Football is better when ND is on top.

Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country.

Why is it better?

I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc.

The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse.

ND isn't in the same category as the Lakers/ Yankees and Cowboys. Bears aren't either. ND is more of a regional following now.

I can't stand them, but they are Cowboys level national.

I dont think so anymore. 20-30 years ago yes. they have a national following i agree but not like the cowboys.

Imo, the Cowboys following isn't near what it was 20-25 years ago either.

the coaches son is on the team? wow. he any good?

Regular Reader wrote:

Imo, the Cowboys following isn't near what it was 20-25 years ago either.

i agree as well. I think we have more options to entertain us these days than the past.

I sometimes think back on how big of a bears fan i was in the 80s/90s. spent thousands of dollars on the franchise. Now seems foolish and a complete waste of time and money and energy. Could have been doing something better but didnt have as many options compared to today.

the coaches son is on the team? wow. he any good?

ND isn't in the same category as the Lakers/ Yankees and Cowboys. Bears aren't either. ND is more of a regional following now.

HawaiiYou wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

It's a shame.

NCAA Football is better when ND is on top.

Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country.

Why is it better?

I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc.

The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse.

ND isn't in the same category as the Lakers/ Yankees and Cowboys. Bears aren't either. ND is more of a regional following now.

Sure. ND is a regional program.

My apologies.

If OU were ND, that would be overturned.

Author:	Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:00 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
Big Chicagoan wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: It's a shame. NCAA Football is better when ND is on top. Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country. They get heat because they won’t join a conference. I meant heat in a positive publicity way.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:01 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: It's a shame. NCAA Football is better when ND is on top. Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country. Why is it better? I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc. The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse.

Author:	HawaiiYou [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:01 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: It's a shame. NCAA Football is better when ND is on top. Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country. I think that time has passed. I dont see ND ever becoming a top team that can compete or dominate teams like bama or clemson. And maybe they should join a conference like the ACC.

Author:	Big Chicagoan [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:02 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
Why is Book still in?

Author:	HawaiiYou [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:03 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
Jbi11s wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: It's a shame. NCAA Football is better when ND is on top. Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country. Why is it better? I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc. The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse. exactly. I liked ND during the Lou Holtz era but then they became so arrogant of a program. I watch NCAA FB once or twice a year and that's the champ games. I like seeing the best teams. Not wannabe's like ND. I didnt even need to watch ND all year to know they weren't going to compete w/ the top teams.

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Author:	Jbi11s [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:03 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Big Chicagoan wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: It's a shame. NCAA Football is better when ND is on top. Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country. They get heat because they won’t join a conference. I meant heat in a positive publicity way. I'm sure it's my bias, but the majority of heat concerning ND wasn't positive outside of the local Chicago media.

Author:	HawaiiYou [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:06 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Jbi11s wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: It's a shame. NCAA Football is better when ND is on top. Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country. Why is it better? I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc. The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse. It's like the Yankees or the Cowboys or the Lakers or the Bears - there are certain organizations that draw more interest. Love them or hate them...and it seems everybody here hates them...I don't... but it just seems to be true. ND isn't in the same category as the Lakers/ Yankees and Cowboys. Bears aren't either. ND is more of a regional following now.

Author:	HawaiiYou [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:08 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: HawaiiYou wrote: Jbi11s wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: It's a shame. NCAA Football is better when ND is on top. Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country. Why is it better? I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc. The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse. exactly. I liked ND during the Lou Holtz era but then they became so arrogant of a program. I watch NCAA FB once or twice a year and that's the champ games. I like seeing the best teams. Not wannabe's like ND. I didnt even need to watch ND all year to know they weren't going to compete w/ the top teams. More arrogant than the Lou Holtz era? I'd ask if you watched any of that but you are probably watching it right now. In 88 when they won it was great. It was a great story of a program down for a long time and Holtz brought them back to prominance. But after that they became an arrogant program.

Author:	Regular Reader [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:09 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
HawaiiYou wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Jbi11s wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: It's a shame. NCAA Football is better when ND is on top. Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country. Why is it better? I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc. The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse. It's like the Yankees or the Cowboys or the Lakers or the Bears - there are certain organizations that draw more interest. Love them or hate them...and it seems everybody here hates them...I don't... but it just seems to be true. ND isn't in the same category as the Lakers/ Yankees and Cowboys. Bears aren't either. ND is more of a regional following now. I can't stand them, but they are Cowboys level national.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:10 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Jbi11s wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: It's a shame. NCAA Football is better when ND is on top. Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country. Why is it better? I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc. The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse. It's like the Yankees or the Cowboys or the Lakers or the Bears - there are certain organizations that draw more interest. Love them or hate them...and it seems everybody here hates them...I don't... but it just seems to be true. I honestly think information accessibility is killing these older notions of certain markets bringing more interest than other, more qualified organizations/programs. That could just be the millennial in me, but yeah. I'm over the legacy garbage.

Author:	HawaiiYou [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:10 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
Regular Reader wrote: HawaiiYou wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Jbi11s wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: It's a shame. NCAA Football is better when ND is on top. Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country. Why is it better? I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc. The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse. It's like the Yankees or the Cowboys or the Lakers or the Bears - there are certain organizations that draw more interest. Love them or hate them...and it seems everybody here hates them...I don't... but it just seems to be true. ND isn't in the same category as the Lakers/ Yankees and Cowboys. Bears aren't either. ND is more of a regional following now. I can't stand them, but they are Cowboys level national. I dont think so anymore. 20-30 years ago yes. they have a national following i agree but not like the cowboys.

Author:	HawaiiYou [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:11 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
Jbi11s wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Jbi11s wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: It's a shame. NCAA Football is better when ND is on top. Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country. Why is it better? I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc. The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse. It's like the Yankees or the Cowboys or the Lakers or the Bears - there are certain organizations that draw more interest. Love them or hate them...and it seems everybody here hates them...I don't... but it just seems to be true. I honestly think information accessibility is killing these older notions of certain markets bringing more interest than other, more qualified organizations/programs. That could just be the millennial in me, but yeah. I'm over the legacy garbage. i agree w/ u. old farts like me drool over the legacy stuff but the young kids today don't care much.

Author:	Jbi11s [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:12 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
Regular Reader wrote: HawaiiYou wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Jbi11s wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: It's a shame. NCAA Football is better when ND is on top. Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country. Why is it better? I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc. The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse. It's like the Yankees or the Cowboys or the Lakers or the Bears - there are certain organizations that draw more interest. Love them or hate them...and it seems everybody here hates them...I don't... but it just seems to be true. ND isn't in the same category as the Lakers/ Yankees and Cowboys. Bears aren't either. ND is more of a regional following now. I can't stand them, but they are Cowboys level national. The cowboys haven't been in a super bowl in over 20 years, and the NFL has reached never before seen popularity levels in that time. The legacy theories don't hold up.

Author:	HawaiiYou [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:16 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
Regular Reader wrote: Imo, the Cowboys following isn't near what it was 20-25 years ago either. i agree as well. I think we have more options to entertain us these days than the past. I sometimes think back on how big of a bears fan i was in the 80s/90s. spent thousands of dollars on the franchise. Now seems foolish and a complete waste of time and money and energy. Could have been doing something better but didnt have as many options compared to today.

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Author:	HawaiiYou [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:19 pm ]
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the coaches son is on the team? wow. he any good?

Author:	Big Chicagoan [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:21 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
HawaiiYou wrote: the coaches son is on the team? wow. he any good? Never seen a coaches son on a team before! What a novelty!

Author:	HawaiiYou [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:26 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
why are they punting? just go for it on 3/3.

Author:	Psycory [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:37 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
HawaiiYou wrote: ND isn't in the same category as the Lakers/ Yankees and Cowboys. Bears aren't either. ND is more of a regional following now. If this is the case, it is a pretty big region. I know on my side of PA, ND is a solid number 2 behind Penn State in football following. I'm sure it is 2 or 3 on PittMike's side as well.

Author:	HawaiiYou [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:46 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
there is a big cowboys following in alaska, oregon, and Utah. That's what I call a national following. PA sure, ND is probably #2 or #3 there as PA is closer to IN. It's still a national following but not like the Cowboys or Lakers.

Author:	Regular Reader [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:06 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
Alabama has three kids in uniform wearing #4?

Author:	Terry's Peeps [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:10 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Football 2018
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: HawaiiYou wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Jbi11s wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: It's a shame. NCAA Football is better when ND is on top. Look how much heat they get just being the 3rd best team in the country. Why is it better? I really don't think MANY believe this anymore, Doc. The accessibility to other successful programs is so much easier than the last time ND was a legit powerhouse. It's like the Yankees or the Cowboys or the Lakers or the Bears - there are certain organizations that draw more interest. Love them or hate them...and it seems everybody here hates them...I don't... but it just seems to be true. ND isn't in the same category as the Lakers/ Yankees and Cowboys. Bears aren't either. ND is more of a regional following now. Sure. ND is a regional program. My apologies.