So, is Hurley in the top 50 college point guards all-time? Top 40? Top 20?

It's funny how he's taken for granted and then routinely ignored in these discussions

I am really surprised that RR didnt have Isiah as one of the best guards of all time. His run at IU was as good as anyone ever.

Oh I do, it's just that I oddly didn't see Isiah play that much. DePaul ball took up most of my viewing enjoyment, at least until the NCAAs started. And during the ridiculous three year stretch of opening round losses, I couldn't watch anything until baseball started. Including IU's '81 title run.

Admittedly, my Pistol Pete love is based on numbers and how his image was so carefully crafted to appeal to any skinny kid with a floppy fro and bad socks.

Oh I do, it's just that I oddly didn't see Isiah play that much. DePaul ball took up most of my viewing enjoyment, at least until the NCAAs started. And during the ridiculous three year stretch of opening round losses, I couldn't watch anything until baseball started. Including IU's '81 title run.

Admittedly, my Pistol Pete love is based on numbers and how his image was so carefully crafted to appeal to any skinny kid with a floppy fro and bad socks.

Pearl Washington was amazing as well.

Oh I do, it's just that I oddly didn't see Isiah play that much. DePaul ball took up most of my viewing enjoyment, at least until the NCAAs started. And during the ridiculous three year stretch of opening round losses, I couldn't watch anything until baseball started. Including IU's '81 title run.

Admittedly, my Pistol Pete love is based on numbers and how his image was so carefully crafted to appeal to any skinny kid with a floppy fro and bad socks.

Me and you should be in the same support group for those early 80s DePaul teams.


I still contend to this day that Ray Meyer was the most overrated coach in CBB history and on the Mt. Rushmore of shitty coaches. His reliance on the 4 corner offense when his team of superior players would have a 2-4 point lead with 10 minutes left in a game was the blue print for all those losses.

He was a shit coach and his son was even worse.

Meyer was never a great game coach. I'm sure you remember him sitting on the bench as the Demons were blowing a big lead and just exhaling in an exaggerated manner.

His forte was being able to point a team for a big game. Of course, that was a lot easier when they were playing an Independent cupcake schedule and kicking the shit out of Duquense and Centenary and he could spend three weeks in practice focusing on Notre Dame. That was a luxury he didn't have when they got real good at the end and were in big TV games every other weekend.

Some guy told me the other day that this kid, Max Christie at Rolling Meadows is the best high school guard in Illinois history. He said he's so much better than Brunson it isn't even funny and that he will undoubtedly leave Rolling Meadows for one of those basketball academies.

Ray's strong point was getting Chicago kids to go to DePaul...signature move was pulling up his pants to prevent them from falling to his ankles.....as for competition Western Michigan with Hirsch's Ricky Green and the Dayton Flyers with Jim Paxson

Isiah ........Buckner.......Scheyer....Rose.... Doc......Cazzie....Schidler....this kid must be a bitch....have to watch him

Very disappointed, Walt. Rickey Green played at Michigan with John Robinson and lost to the undefeated Hoosiers in the all Big Ten final.

don't be Marty Murray

Are you referring to the Marty Murray that played for Phillips years ago?

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I know Marty Murray. A true legend. His nephew Boom Boom is his Brother Larry's son (Formerly of the Oakland A's) and a childhood friend of mine. We've known each other since we were about 3 years old.

Marty hasn't been doing so hot lately but he is hanging in there.

Was outta HS by then .but CJ Kupec Oak Lawn and Roger Powell Sr were bad asses