Do you think the talent level of today's College Basketball is the same as when Derrick Rose played?

In Rayvonte Rice's 2 seasons with the Illini, the team was 16-20 in the Conference.

When Weber was the coach of the Illini, Julian Wright, Sherron Collins, and Derrick Rose were all playing in the same game for an NCAA Championship. HUGE DIFFERENCE.

Weber didn't coach Rayvonte Rice. .

Anyway, I'm not sure what your point is. Like I said, you're all over the place.

Also, you may have missed it but the official record of Derrick Rose's college team is 0-1.

It is not really fair to compare teams from the 80s to the early 2000s or to now. We have left the one and done era, and are now in the start of the portal/NIL era. Ten years ago the former SIU coach is probably landing a bigger job today after going on a tournament run. Instead his team was picked apart after last season by bigger schools and he got fired despite having winning record this year.

It's fair to compare them. What's unfair is believing that the eras are very much the same.
Jorr believes that that there is absolutely no difference. Which is just asinine.

I don't believe they are "the same" in many regards as conns notes above but I really have no idea how to judge and compare the talent and depth or lack thereof between the eras.

Basketball fans have some weird ideas. They think guys like Mikan and Cousy were slow, tiny, unathletic and white. They are only correct about the last one. They have these thoughts about players evolving but somehow the evolution stopped with Michael Jordan and players forty years ago were better than the guys playing today.

One thing that makes the game and the talent very difficult to compare across eras is the constant traveling and carrying that is allowed in today's game.

I don't believe they are "the same" in many regards as conns notes above but I really have no idea how to judge and compare the talent and depth or lack thereof between the eras.

Basketball fans have some weird ideas. They think guys like Mikan and Cousy were slow, tiny, unathletic and white. They are only correct about the last one. They have these thoughts about players evolving but somehow the evolution stopped with Michael Jordan and players forty years ago were better than the guys playing today.

One thing that makes the game and the talent very difficult to compare across eras is the constant traveling and carrying that is allowed in today's game.

Skill level has progressed obviously. Progression however sees diminishing returns. And progression between sports, say baseball, which has been around since the civil war, makes it easier to compare eras. You are blind if you can't see the exponential growth from George Mikan to Hakeem Olajuwon.

You've never seen Mikan. You've seen photos and perhaps deteriorating film of him.

The idea that humans "evolved" in a generation or two is absurd.

The idea that humans "evolved" in a generation or two is absurd.

Who said they evolved? Basketball wasn't even a thing until after WW2. They were "figuring it out" for 25 years.

I guess lead pipes are just as good as copper?

Can't say this is much of a,surprise. Dain Dainja is in the portal.

https://247sports.com/college/illinois/ ... 229729134/

Why is Hawkins leaving? Seems like he could have starred next season.

Why is Hawkins leaving? Seems like he could have starred next season.

This place will forever be family to me. With that said, I will be entering the transfer portal.

Morez Johnson is coming. Consensus Top 25 player out of high school. And I think they like the Hansberry kid too. And they will probably get a decent big out of the portal.
I hope DePaul Swoops Him Up.

They just need to work on NILs. It doesn't much matter who the coach is anymore just as long as he's competent.

They had one of the best NIL systems in the country from the start.

No need to worry about the coach then. Just pay the most.

Well you aren't outbidding Indiana any more but Illinois is going to be really good next year too.