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Author:  rogers park bryan [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: FF Trade Advice Thread

veganfan21 wrote:
I give up Antonio brown. I get kareem hunt. Original offer was brown for Freeman, but I countered with hunt. He's thinking about it. Thoughts? Cooper and Hill are my other WRs.

Who are your rb's?

Author:  veganfan21 [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:20 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
I give up Antonio brown. I get kareem hunt. Original offer was brown for Freeman, but I countered with hunt. He's thinking about it. Thoughts? Cooper and Hill are my other WRs.

Who are your rb's?


Junk.

Alex Collins
Marlon Mack
Abdullah
Derrick Henry
Murray

I have to start 2.

Author:  FavreFan [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:24 pm ]
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veganfan21 wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
I would do that.



Thanks. Should mention it's PPR

Nobody is a bigger Hunt fan than I am but I'm not sure I would do that. I'd try to get more for Brown if possible.

Author:  FavreFan [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:27 pm ]
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veganfan21 wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
I give up Antonio brown. I get kareem hunt. Original offer was brown for Freeman, but I countered with hunt. He's thinking about it. Thoughts? Cooper and Hill are my other WRs.

Who are your rb's?


Junk.

Alex Collins
Marlon Mack
Abdullah
Derrick Henry
Murray

I have to start 2.

See if you can package one of them with Brown for Hunt + an upgrade over one of them at RB

Author:  good dolphin [ Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:32 pm ]
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I am thinking about offering

Todd Gurley
Rishard Matthews

for

Leveon Bell

Gurley has been great this year and I think the production is legit. However, he has a brutal second half schedule facing a number of top ten Ds. He is a shade below Bell. Rishard is a situational #3 and not an embarrassment as a starter. This guy needs help at WR with his best player being Cooks and I think he will see it as a way to be just about as good at RB and at least another body at WR. Do you think he will take it?

Author:  billypootons [ Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:36 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
I am thinking about offering

Todd Gurley
Rishard Matthews

for

Leveon Bell

Gurley has been great this year and I think the production is legit. However, he has a brutal second half schedule facing a number of top ten Ds. He is a shade below Bell. Rishard is a situational #3 and not an embarrassment as a starter. This guy needs help at WR with his best player being Cooks and I think he will see it as a way to be just about as good at RB and at least another body at WR. Do you think he will take it?


That offer isn't good enough... Mathews is a fringe starting wr not much better than what's on your waiver wire... Get real

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:36 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
I am thinking about offering

Todd Gurley
Rishard Matthews

for

Leveon Bell

Gurley has been great this year and I think the production is legit. However, he has a brutal second half schedule facing a number of top ten Ds. He is a shade below Bell. Rishard is a situational #3 and not an embarrassment as a starter. This guy needs help at WR with his best player being Cooks and I think he will see it as a way to be just about as good at RB and at least another body at WR. Do you think he will take it?

I dont know man. Even needing a WR, I would have to get something better than Matthews.

Author:  good dolphin [ Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:53 pm ]
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billypootons wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
I am thinking about offering

Todd Gurley
Rishard Matthews

for

Leveon Bell

Gurley has been great this year and I think the production is legit. However, he has a brutal second half schedule facing a number of top ten Ds. He is a shade below Bell. Rishard is a situational #3 and not an embarrassment as a starter. This guy needs help at WR with his best player being Cooks and I think he will see it as a way to be just about as good at RB and at least another body at WR. Do you think he will take it?


That offer isn't good enough... Mathews is a fringe starting wr not much better than what's on your waiver wire... Get real


Real is that Gurley has been as good as Bell this year.

I have enough WR firepower to step it up a little if necessary. I'd go as high as Amari Cooper, who production wise, hasn't been better than Matthews but who has more of a name.

The other candidates with whom I might part would be Emmanuel Sanders and Sterling Shepherd. I think Shepherd comes out of the bye without injury, rested and ready to be the top WR on the Giants. I really love Sanders but his QB prevents him from having huge games so Sanders would be the next in line on the hierarchy.

I don't want to lose Julio Jones, Tyreke Hill or Smith-Schuster. Smith Schuster may prove to be anomalous because my bet is Tomlinson will get Bryant back to contributing again. I think at this point that would be too high of a price.

I guess the counter offer when it is rejected is Cooper. I still think that is a high price to pay.

Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:33 am ]
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You guys were correct. The guy rejected it with an LOL.

However, this is the guy who probably drafted Gurley in the first last year and had him on no draft list this year

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:49 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
You guys were correct. The guy rejected it with an LOL.

However, this is the guy who probably drafted Gurley in the first last year and had him on no draft list this year

The LOL was unnecessary but it lets you know he won't consider a reasonable offer so it saves you time.

I wouldnt have done that trade either though.

Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:38 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
You guys were correct. The guy rejected it with an LOL.

However, this is the guy who probably drafted Gurley in the first last year and had him on no draft list this year

The LOL was unnecessary but it lets you know he won't consider a reasonable offer so it saves you time.

I wouldnt have done that trade either though.


The guy is clinging to playoff hopes for dear life and Bell sits this weekend. He can now have Davante Adams, Taylor Gabriel and Done Moncrief bring it home for him while Theo Riddick is a bye week replacement.

You tell me there is no room for negotiation when you are rolling those three out?

Gurley will have another big game this weekend and I will restart the discussion, as futile as it might be. Gurley plays a rough schedule after this week.

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:43 pm ]
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Interested in Chus and dolphins(and anyone else obviously) opinion on this trade offer. Posting my roster for any needed background info and the trade offer below. It's a 12 team standard scoring league with two flex spots. I loved my team after week 1 but I'm sitting at 4-5 now and feel I need to make some type of move. The offer seems pretty fair, which surprised me since it's the initial offer with no previous negotiation yet. Do I counter and ask for more?

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Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:16 pm ]
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I'd take that trade.

You get the better RB and while I think you are selling Benjamin a little short, I doubt he explodes during the winter in Buffalo. You won't be starting either of those guys or Benjamin over Hopkins and Nelson anyway.

The trade from your perspective is Ingram for Mc Coy. I like Ingram.

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:39 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
I'd take that trade.

You get the better RB and while I think you are selling Benjamin a little short, I doubt he explodes during the winter in Buffalo. You won't be starting either of those guys or Benjamin over Hopkins and Nelson anyway.

The trade from your perspective is Ingram for Mc Coy. I like Ingram.

Id have to start a 3rd WR/2nd TE every week so guys like Benjamin, Hogan, and Richardson are important to the trade as well.

I'm leaning towards taking it. Just gotta do a bit more research on Hogan's injury.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:41 pm ]
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I'd weigh in but my firewall is blocking the pics FF posted

So I see


Image


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Which seems like a fair trade to me.

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:48 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
I'd weigh in but my firewall is blocking the pics FF posted

So I see


Image


Image




Which seems like a fair trade to me.

LeSean and Kelvin Benjamin for Ingram, Hogan, Paul Richardson

Author:  Chus [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:55 pm ]
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I would do it. I disagree with GD that you are fine at WR. Hopkins and Nelson have taken huge hits since losing their QBs. I am considering dropping Jordy in a 10 team league.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:08 pm ]
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I would not do it but I have a somewhat irrational fear of taking Seahawks receivers.

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:15 pm ]
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I accepted it. Felt it was worth the risk. I generally agree with Chus regarding my WRs.

Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:44 pm ]
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What is Ezekial Elliott's trade value?

I have a sneaking suspicion his suspension will be cut down to four games by the court making him available for the entire playoffs.

I'm offering Amari Cooper. The name recognition on Cooper might get it done because he has been worthless in all but two games this year. I would think the rest of the offers he receives for Elliott are going to be barely usable parts.

Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:09 pm ]
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In response to my trade I am being offered Elliot and T Y for Sterling Sharpe and Smith-Shuster

I'm interested.

Author:  man of few opinions [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:13 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
In response to my trade I am being offered Elliot and T Y for Sterling Sharpe and Smith-Shuster

I'm interested.


id be careful, sterling sharpe is getting a little long in the tooth. he may have lost a step.

Author:  Chus [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:16 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
In response to my trade I am being offered Elliot and T Y for Sterling Sharpe and Smith-Shuster

I'm interested.


I would roll the dice on that. Even if Elliott doesn't play, isn't T.Y. better than either of those WRs?

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:17 pm ]
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Chus wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
In response to my trade I am being offered Elliot and T Y for Sterling Sharpe and Smith-Shuster

I'm interested.


I would roll the dice on that. Even if Elliott doesn't play, isn't T.Y. better than either of those WRs?

I don't think he is.

Author:  Chus [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:21 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Chus wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
In response to my trade I am being offered Elliot and T Y for Sterling Sharpe and Smith-Shuster

I'm interested.


I would roll the dice on that. Even if Elliott doesn't play, isn't T.Y. better than either of those WRs?

I don't think he is.


In my PPR league, T.Y. has scored more points than both Shepard and JuJu.

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:25 pm ]
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Chus wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Chus wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
In response to my trade I am being offered Elliot and T Y for Sterling Sharpe and Smith-Shuster

I'm interested.


I would roll the dice on that. Even if Elliott doesn't play, isn't T.Y. better than either of those WRs?

I don't think he is.


In my PPR league, T.Y. has scored more points than both Shepard and JuJu.

Mine too, but 4 of the last 5 weeks TY has been awful, and those two are getting more looks now than they were at the beginning of the year. I think he's clearly more talented than the other two, but I think JuJu and Shepard will outproduce him going forward.

If your WRs are strong I'd probably also take the gamble though.

Author:  billypootons [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:28 pm ]
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Chus wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Chus wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
In response to my trade I am being offered Elliot and T Y for Sterling Sharpe and Smith-Shuster

I'm interested.


I would roll the dice on that. Even if Elliott doesn't play, isn't T.Y. better than either of those WRs?

I don't think he is.


In my PPR league, T.Y. has scored more points than both Shepard and JuJu.


TY has scored 75% of his season's points in 3 games... the other 7 games have been abysmal... he has a relatively bad fantasy playoff schedule: wk14 @Buf, 11th, wk 15 DEN, 4th, wk 16 @ bal 1st (1st being least points given up to WR, 32nd being most fantasy points given up to WR)... Elliot's December 1 hearing occurs after his week 13 game, so your best case is having him for wks 14-16... but the most likely scenario is you only get him for a wk 16 matchup against seattle....

sheppard has an insanely easy schedule rest of season in an offense that historically has had solid production from it's #1 WR, smith schuster has been very good since taking over M Bryant's role.... if I were you i'd pass

Author:  Chus [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:39 pm ]
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Elliott is dropping his appeal. He will serve six games.

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