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12 team money league. One of the guys from my bowling team has been running it for years. We had a live draft at Real Time Sports today.

Four points for passing TD. PPR.

1. (2) Le'Veon Bell (Pit - RB)
2. (23) Doug Baldwin (Sea - WR)
3. (26) Tom Brady (NE - QB)
4. (47) Michael Crabtree (Oak - WR)
5. (50) Isaiah Crowell (Cle - RB)
6. (71) Martavis Bryant (Pit - WR)
7. (74) Zach Ertz (Phi - TE)
8. (95) Tyrell Williams (LAC - WR)
9. (98) Mike Gillislee (NE - RB)
10. (119) Jonathan Stewart (Car - RB)
11. (122) Rishard Matthews (Ten - WR)
12. (143) C.J. Prosise (Sea - RB)
13. (146) Andy Dalton (Cin - QB)
14. (167) Samaje Perine (Was - RB)
15. (170) Matt Prater (Det - K)
16. (191) Buffalo (Buf - DEF)

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I think I overvalue him more than others but Crowell with the 50th overall pick is a great get.



10 team $100 1/2 point PPR league. Drafted today. Got one more league/draft this Friday.


1. A.J. Green WR PICK 9
2. Jay Ajayi RB PICK 12
3. Isaiah Crowell RB PICK 29
4. Joe Mixon RB PICK 32
5. Dalvin Cook RB PICK 49
6. Martellus Bennett TE PICK 52
7. Keenan Allen WR PICK 69
8. Kareem Hunt RB PICK 72
9. Donte Moncrief WR PICK 89
10. Derek Carr QB PICK 92
11. Corey Coleman WR PICK 109
12. Thomas Rawls RB PICK 112
13. Theo Riddick RB PICK 129
14. Buffalo Bills DEF PICK 132
15. Matt Prater K PICK 149

I got burned on RBs last year and it annoyed me all season. I probably overcompensated for that in this draft. Mixon was probably my worst pick and I think Hunt was easily my best, I almost took Hunt in the 6th round 20 picks earlier.

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I think I overvalue him more than others but Crowell with the 50th overall pick is a great get.



10 team $100 1/2 point PPR league. Drafted today. Got one more league/draft this Friday.


1. A.J. Green WR PICK 9
2. Jay Ajayi RB PICK 12
3. Isaiah Crowell RB PICK 29
4. Joe Mixon RB PICK 32
5. Dalvin Cook RB PICK 49
6. Martellus Bennett TE PICK 52
7. Keenan Allen WR PICK 69
8. Kareem Hunt RB PICK 72
9. Donte Moncrief WR PICK 89
10. Derek Carr QB PICK 92
11. Corey Coleman WR PICK 109
12. Thomas Rawls RB PICK 112
13. Theo Riddick RB PICK 129
14. Buffalo Bills DEF PICK 132
15. Matt Prater K PICK 149

I got burned on RBs last year and it annoyed me all season. I probably overcompensated for that in this draft. Mixon was probably my worst pick and I think Hunt was easily my best, I almost took Hunt in the 6th round 20 picks earlier.


I think Allen was great value where you got him.

I had one today and didnt like it. My starting RBs are Ameer Abdullah and Derrick Henry, with that NYG RB and riddick on the bench. Antonio Brown, Tyreke Hill, and Amari Cooper are my best players. Also have Landry but had no idea he is being marginalized in this new offense. Is that for real? I guess that's what you get for drafting as soon as you get off a plane and are jetlagged as hell.

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I don't think he's marginalized, it's more that Cutler has a history of utilizing guys that look like Davante Parker more than guys like Landry.

It sounds like you went the Zero RB strategy. That's a popular strategy, I just personally don't like it.

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I don't think he's marginalized, it's more that Cutler has a history of utilizing guys that look like Davante Parker more than guys like Landry.

It sounds like you went the Zero RB strategy. That's a popular strategy, I just personally don't like it.


I may have followed that strategy incidentally but not deliberately. Not sure what you think but I think the strategy you employ should obviously follow the scoring system of the league. The league I play in has a highly customized PPR system so RBs who can catch are actually extremely valuable. So had I picked 1 or 2 I definitely would have gone with Bell or Johnson. In my league a healthy Bell is probably the most lethal player there is. Once those guys were gone I just couldn't justify picking a lesser RB like Crowell or Powell over an established no 1 WR like Cooper, even though RB was a need, so I just went with the best player until I started picking RBs out of need. I do think Henry is going to be good this year even if Murray doesn't get hurt. In standard leagues I might follow something close to the zero RB strategy. Why don't you like it?

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Why don't you like it?

Mainly irrationality based on a sample size of one. :lol:

I tried it once two years ago when I first read about it and my team was fucking horrible. I think I finished 3-11. Last year, I had Gurley in both my leagues and my other RBs kept getting hurt, and it really hampered any type of roster flexibility. So because of position scarcity, this year I decided to try to load up on RBs and hope I can cash some lottery tickets like Kareem Hunt and Dalvin Cook. I figure it's easier to pickup a serviceable WR on the wire than a RB too.

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If I was you I would try to upgrade from Derrick Henry to someone like Theo Riddick, Woodhead, or Prosise(if you are looking for good receiving RBs who shouldn't cost you a ton in a trade)

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I've been leaning more and more towards zero rb, the key if you need to allocate at least 5 roster spots to high upside RBs and be patient. Draft strategy is Not for the faint of heart as you'll leave your draft wanting better RBs


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FavreFan wrote:
If I was you I would try to upgrade from Derrick Henry to someone like Theo Riddick, Woodhead, or Prosise(if you are looking for good receiving RBs who shouldn't cost you a ton in a trade)


I have riddick and don't know who prosise is but I'll look into him. Why are you down on Henry? He's apparently a stud.
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Why don't you like it?

Mainly irrationality based on a sample size of one. :lol:

I tried it once two years ago when I first read about it and my team was fucking horrible. I think I finished 3-11. Last year, I had Gurley in both my leagues and my other RBs kept getting hurt, and it really hampered any type of roster flexibility. So because of position scarcity, this year I decided to try to load up on RBs and hope I can cash some lottery tickets like Kareem Hunt and Dalvin Cook. I figure it's easier to pickup a serviceable WR on the wire than a RB too.


I get that but since there are more quality wrs than RBs I figure why not just load up on quality wrs so you have a "floor" of production from those spots instead of gambling with RBs who may or may not suck.

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I've been leaning more and more towards zero rb, the key if you need to allocate at least 5 roster spots to high upside RBs and be patient. Draft strategy is Not for the faint of heart as you'll leave your draft wanting better RBs


Yup. That's how I left my draft.

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Henry has a ton of talent but the volume isn't there as long as Murray is healthy. Volume > talent when it comes to fantasy. In a PPR league Riddick should be an easy choice to start over Henry, imo.

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Assuming top 2 are Johnson and Bell

Who are your next 5 in order?


3 Brown
4 Jones
5 Freeman
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I've been leaning more and more towards zero rb, the key if you need to allocate at least 5 roster spots to high upside RBs and be patient. Draft strategy is Not for the faint of heart as you'll leave your draft wanting better RBs

I've tried it a couple of years, and you definitely need to swing for the fences on the RBs; the problem I usually have is that they take too long to develop -- you'll pick a really high upside guy who is splitting time with an often injured player, or you pick a guy who way out performed the starter in camp, but then those things don't happen until week five or six and you've lost a third to a half of the season. I think because so many people are doing non RB, it is almost easier now to pick RBs. I think it really depends on your individual draft... if you have the first or second spot this year and don't draft an RB, it seems very foolish. Likewise, if the next six picks are WR and you're picking 9th, why aren't you picking RB?

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Did a couple of drafts this weekend...

The first one is semi-standard scoring with 0.3 PPR... I was drafting 10th and ended up with Jordan Howard and Melvin Gordon in the first two rounds, and then Crabtree and Tate in third and fourth, Greg Olsen and Sneed in fifth and sixth (wasn't super happy with Sneed, but my other two picks went after Olsen.) Waited on QB until 11 and got Flacco and Manning which probably will be good enough.

Other draft is rotisserie style league where they rank how you perform in the different categories from 10 to 1 and add up your scores every week... it is very different and IDP... and auction (first five rounds are blind auction and rest are regular)... and you keep up to five guys (up to three years.) Ended up getting Rivers and Stafford (TDs and INTs don't matter in this league, just completions and yards) and then have Tyrod Taylor as my third. Gurley and Crowell are my main RBs, and got Julio and Dez as my WR starters with Kelce and Crabtree to complement as the flex spot. Went minimal spending at DB this year, but spent a little bit at DL -- sacks seem to be more predictable year to year than INTs are.

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Assuming top 2 are Johnson and Bell

Who are your next 5 in order?


3 Brown
4 Jones
5 Freeman
6 Evans
7 OBJ


3. Brown
4. Beckham
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Assuming top 2 are Johnson and Bell

Who are your next 5 in order?


3 Brown
4 Jones
5 Freeman
6 Evans
7 OBJ

Jones
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Drafted 5/10. I sort of like and hate my team. RB is gonna be difficult. K. White was my keeper...oops.

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1. (5) Odell Beckham Jr. (NYG - WR)
2. (16) Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB)
3. (25) Lamar Miller (Hou - RB)
4. (36) Rob Gronkowski (NE - TE)
5. (45) Davante Adams (GB - WR)
6. (56) Tevin Coleman (Atl - RB)
7. (65) Bilal Powell (NYJ - RB)
8. (76) Mike Gillislee (NE - RB)
9. (85) Kevin White (Chi - WR)
10. (96) DeSean Jackson (TB - WR)
11. (105) New England (NE - DEF)
12. (116) Randall Cobb (GB - WR)
13. (125) Duke Johnson Jr. (Cle - RB)
14. (136) O.J. Howard (TB - TE)
15. (145) Danny Amendola (NE - WR)
16. (156) Wil Lutz (NO - K)

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Drafted 5/10. I sort of like and hate my team. RB is gonna be difficult. K. White was my keeper...oops.

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1. (5) Odell Beckham Jr. (NYG - WR)
2. (16) Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB)
3. (25) Lamar Miller (Hou - RB)
4. (36) Rob Gronkowski (NE - TE)
5. (45) Davante Adams (GB - WR)
6. (56) Tevin Coleman (Atl - RB)
7. (65) Bilal Powell (NYJ - RB)
8. (76) Mike Gillislee (NE - RB)
9. (85) Kevin White (Chi - WR)
10. (96) DeSean Jackson (TB - WR)
11. (105) New England (NE - DEF)
12. (116) Randall Cobb (GB - WR)
13. (125) Duke Johnson Jr. (Cle - RB)
14. (136) O.J. Howard (TB - TE)
15. (145) Danny Amendola (NE - WR)
16. (156) Wil Lutz (NO - K)


Like Adams and Coleman, hate Rodgers and Miller.

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I think Rogers has a monster year...

Lamar has done me well in the past, and there wasn't much to choose from at that point.

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Gronk at #36 is a steal. He went 13th in my live draft.

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Why is Derek Carr being ranked so low?


I don't think he is necessarily being ranked low, but there are so many good QBs in fantasy football, that you don't have to reach early.

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Why is Derek Carr being ranked so low?


I don't think he is necessarily being ranked low, but there are so many good QBs in fantasy football, that you don't have to reach early.

I just see him ranked like 18th or 19th among QB's. I think he's better than that.


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Was all set to take McCoy at 4 but guy at 3 took Julio and I couldnt pass up Antonio Brown.

Im hoping OJ Howard is decent right away because Eifert is a china doll.


1. (4) Antonio Brown (Pit - WR)
2. (17) Dez Bryant (Dal - WR)
3. (24) Todd Gurley (LAR - RB)
4. (37) Davante Adams (GB - WR)
5. (44) Carlos Hyde (SF - RB)
6. (57) Jamison Crowder (Was - WR)
7. (64) Tyler Eifert (Cin - TE)
8. (77) Kirk Cousins (Was - QB)
9. (84) Joe Mixon (Cin - RB)
10. (97) Dak Prescott (Dal - QB)
11. (104) Adam Vinatieri (Ind - K)
12. (117) Randall Cobb (GB - WR)
13. (124) O.J. Howard (TB - TE)
14. (137) Atlanta (Atl - DEF)
15. (144) Darren McFadden (Dal - RB)
16. (157) Robby Anderson (NYJ - WR)


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Why is Derek Carr being ranked so low?


I don't think he is necessarily being ranked low, but there are so many good QBs in fantasy football, that you don't have to reach early.

I just see him ranked like 18th or 19th among QB's. I think he's better than that.

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Doing two money leagues this year. Drafted my second team last night. Full PPR, 10 team league. Thrilled Evans fell to me in the first but kinda fucked up the Russell Wilson pick. I think he'll be great this year but I don't really have a good excuse for that pick. Loved getting Abdullah with the 88th overall pick.

8 Mike Evans, TB WR
13 Michael Thomas, NO WR
28 Jordan Reed, Wsh TE
33 Russell Wilson, Sea QB
48 Carlos Hyde, SF RB
53 Stefon Diggs, Min WR
68 C.J. Anderson, Den RB
73 Darren McFadden, Dal RB
88 Ameer Abdullah, Det RB
93 Corey Coleman, Cle WR
108 Zay Jones, Buf WR
113 Jonathan Stewart, Car RB
128 Kevin White, Chi WR
133 Derrick Henry, Ten RB
148 Steelers D/ST D/ST
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This trade got accepted in my league last night at 2 AM after the draft. Pretty sure it will get properly vetoed but it's already making me suspicious. BOATS is a good guy but he's a dumbass so I'm hoping it was just a case of him getting drunk and being an idiot.


RUSS traded Philip Rivers, LAC QB to BOATS
RUSS traded LeGarrette Blount, Phi RB to BOATS
RUSS traded Brandon Marshall, NYG WR to BOATS
BOATS traded Aaron Rodgers, GB QB to RUSS
BOATS traded Marshawn Lynch, Oak RB to RUSS
BOATS traded Larry Fitzgerald, Ari WR to RUSS

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This trade got accepted in my league last night at 2 AM after the draft. Pretty sure it will get properly vetoed but it's already making me suspicious. BOATS is a good guy but he's a dumbass so I'm hoping it was just a case of him getting drunk and being an idiot.


RUSS traded Philip Rivers, LAC QB to BOATS
RUSS traded LeGarrette Blount, Phi RB to BOATS
RUSS traded Brandon Marshall, NYG WR to BOATS
BOATS traded Aaron Rodgers, GB QB to RUSS
BOATS traded Marshawn Lynch, Oak RB to RUSS
BOATS traded Larry Fitzgerald, Ari WR to RUSS


Basically Rivers for Rodgers. That's dumb by itself but the other players cancel each other out.

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This trade got accepted in my league last night at 2 AM after the draft. Pretty sure it will get properly vetoed but it's already making me suspicious. BOATS is a good guy but he's a dumbass so I'm hoping it was just a case of him getting drunk and being an idiot.


RUSS traded Philip Rivers, LAC QB to BOATS
RUSS traded LeGarrette Blount, Phi RB to BOATS
RUSS traded Brandon Marshall, NYG WR to BOATS
BOATS traded Aaron Rodgers, GB QB to RUSS
BOATS traded Marshawn Lynch, Oak RB to RUSS
BOATS traded Larry Fitzgerald, Ari WR to RUSS


Basically Rivers for Rodgers. That's dumb by itself but the other players cancel each other out.

You're insane. Look at where Blount, Marshall, Lynch, and Fitzgerald are ranked right now.

EDIT: This is the website I use most often for FF.

https://www.thefantasyfootballers.com/2 ... -rankings/

Full PPR league. Lynch is ranked as the RB15. Blount is RB41.

https://www.thefantasyfootballers.com/2 ... -rankings/

Fitz is WR20. Marshall is WR33.

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This trade got accepted in my league last night at 2 AM after the draft. Pretty sure it will get properly vetoed but it's already making me suspicious. BOATS is a good guy but he's a dumbass so I'm hoping it was just a case of him getting drunk and being an idiot.


RUSS traded Philip Rivers, LAC QB to BOATS
RUSS traded LeGarrette Blount, Phi RB to BOATS
RUSS traded Brandon Marshall, NYG WR to BOATS
BOATS traded Aaron Rodgers, GB QB to RUSS
BOATS traded Marshawn Lynch, Oak RB to RUSS
BOATS traded Larry Fitzgerald, Ari WR to RUSS


Basically Rivers for Rodgers. That's dumb by itself but the other players cancel each other out.

You're insane. Look at where Blount, Marshall, Lynch, and Fitzgerald are ranked right now.

EDIT: This is the website I use most often for FF.

https://www.thefantasyfootballers.com/2 ... -rankings/

Full PPR league. Lynch is ranked as the RB15. Blount is RB41.

https://www.thefantasyfootballers.com/2 ... -rankings/

Fitz is WR20. Marshall is WR33.


Eh I typically don't follow rankings. Fitzgerald and Marshall are over the hill receivers and aren't no 1 targets anymore. Lynch is dead to me after a year away and I don't care for Blount due to age.

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veganfan21 wrote:

Eh I typically don't follow rankings. Fitzgerald and Marshall are over the hill receivers and aren't no 1 targets anymore. Lynch is dead to me after a year away and I don't care for Blount due to age.

:lol:

Man, do you even follow football? Fitzgerald had 107 catches last year and will almost certainly be over 100 again this year if he plays all 16 games. I don't like Lynch much either this year but he is unequivocally significantly more valuable than Blount.

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