I thought this up in the car on the way to work today (assuming it wasn't already thought up by someone else). Nothing more annoying than when you score a ton of points only to lose to someone who scored more. I play in a 20 team league and have even lost games where I had the 2nd most points of all 20 teams, but played vs the guy who was #1. And on the flipside you have someone who wins his game 60-48 and gets a win even though you doubled his output. So here's my idea....

Leagues go to a point system whereby the team that wins the H2H game would get 1pt and then all the teams that finished in the top half in scoring that week would also get 1pt. So the max pts you could get each week is 2. So for example here is a scoreboard for a 10 team league...

Team A 154
Team B 137

Team C 110
Team D 45

Team E 64
Team F 38

Team G 175
Team H 99

Team I 88
Team J 75

In this example here are how the points would end up that week...

Team A = 2pts
Team B = 1pt
Team C = 2pts
Team D = 0pts
Team E = 1pt
Team F = 0pts
Team G = 2pts
Team H = 1pts
Team I = 1pts
Team J = 0pt

Under this system its much more equitable and balanced in that teams like B and H, who scored more than half the teams in the league, still get a point despite losing to teams who had huge weeks. On the flipside, a team like E who only scored 64 pts but won, only gets 1pt and therefore isn't rewarded at the same level of teams like A and G who had monster weeks.

I think this is a great system and would minimize the bad/good luck factor of matchups, something that you have no control over and would reward your teams actual output instead.

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Terrible idea. Keep thinking.

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It is frustrating when you lose in those situations. But it is no different than regular football. If the Bears lose to the Packers 41-40 and they scored the 2nd most points in the league that day they do not get anything added to their record. it is just the way it works some days.

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Why even play head to head? Set your lineup each week and hope to score a lot of points and at the end of the season the team with the most points wins.

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The key difference being that in real football you have control over how many points your opponent scores.

So that's a terrible analogy.

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In my scenario H2H matchups account for 50% of the scoring so your post makes no sense.

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anyone who doesn't recognize what a brilliant idea this is is an idiot. There is no downside to my idea and all it does is make things more fair and eliminate a large portion of the luck factor involved in H2H without going completely in the opposite direction and becoming a boring roto setup.

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Neither does your OP. Head to head means you play head to head. Sometimes you get lucky and win during a bad week and sometimes you lose during a great week. It will even out by the end of the year. If you dont want to play head to head then dont.

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I think somebody was up in Wisconsin and listening to 540, they had this same discussion the other day.

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That further convinces me that it is a bad idea.

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My bad. I forgot you only post stuff like this because you want people to agree with you and stroke your ego.

Your idea sucks.

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So you think modifiying H2H to eliminate much of the luck factor and instead focus on who actually puts out the best team is a bad idea? Gotcha.

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No, I'm trying to come down off the mountain top and offer pearls of wisdom that will make life better for you simpletons.

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Might as well just go roto. In this format, the 1 point for a win is still just based off the luck of who you are playing that week.

yes, but the luck in greatly minimized while at the same time allowing leagues to remain in the much more fun H2H format as opposed to straight roto.

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You can take the word "point" out of the standings. You want a team to get 1/2 of a win for scoring more points than other teams in the league, even if they lose their game.



Again, dumb idea. This makes fractional points and giving a player a point for catching a screen pass look brilliant.

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Yes, that's exactly what I want. You get half a win for winning your game and then another half if you got that win by earning it as opposed to being lucky and getting a good matchup that you had no control over.

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So losing a high scoring game is equal in the standings to winning a low scoring game, because each is essentially a "half win".

Got it.
























Bad.

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In your system a team could have a losing W/L record but still have more 'wins' than a team that won more H2H matches. Again, why not just play roto. You are diminshing winning games.

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Either way, shakes got beaten so badly in this thread he's still in last place in the standings.

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i actually dont think it is a horrible idea - though i think the total points is weighted too heavily in your example. wins and losses should dominate, but offering small bonuses for total points seems like an interesting take. 1 pt for the win with perhaps half a point for the high point man or the top 3 or 4 scoring teams.

im not hurrying off to do it my leagues but i dont think it is a totally shit idea.

MoFo, let me set you straight:

1 point for winning the stage and 1 point for losing the stage but being in the front half of the peloton.




See how bad that is?

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This idea looks like something the Government would put together to "improve" fantasy football. Not good.

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i said that the wins should be the dominant factor, but i dont think it is a terrible idea to award minor bonuses for team high scoring. and equal balance for winning outright and points scored is too much. a 1:1 ratio is too much and is a bad idea. in the leagues i run it is strictly H2H wins and thats how they will stay but the idea isn't that radical.

how were you setting me straight again?

Hey guys, I have a great idea for an auction league.

We will just draft our players like normal.

Fuck me, I set up an auction league like that last year and for some reason it just turned out to be a normal league. Everyone was like WTF stupid. I couldn't blame them really.

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OK...so FUCK YOU too

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This is the most shakes-iest post you have ever made.

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