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 Post subject: Roy Halladay
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No one seemed to be having more fun in retirement than Roy Halladay. Tragic.

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 Post subject: Re: Roy Holliday
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And Roy Halladay died too!


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Oh no. Wow.

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 Post subject: Re: Roy Holliday
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That is turrible. Seems like he was finally living his dream after retirement. I hate to say it but at least he passed doing
something he loved. Obviously feel awful for his wife and two sons. From everything I've read, he was a really good guy.

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First Lidle and now Holliday? Stop flying your own planes pitchers!


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Sad. He was the ace on my keeper league baseball team for a lot of years. Loved watching him pitch. He used to use the rarely used Palm Ball.

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October 12, 2017 / ICON Aircraft delivered the first Model Year 2018 (MY18) A5 to former Major League Baseball pitcher, Roy Halladay.

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November 7, 2017 / Roy Halladay's ICON A5 light sport aircraft crashed into the Gulf 10 miles west of St. Petersburg at about 1 p.m., the Pasco County Sheriff's Office said.


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Seems to me like he was still pitching I’d hear his name so often.

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Seems to me like he was still pitching I’d hear his name so often.

He's the answer to a few trivia questions.

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And John Denver’s name gets pushed further from our memories .

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And John Denver’s name gets pushed further from our memories .

You came on my pillow, like a horse in a forest ...


Now is he (Roy) properly dead or considered dead or just might be dead?

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 Post subject: Re: Roy Holliday
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Seems like he was finally living his dream after retirement.

Sounds like a terrible dream to me.

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badrogue17 wrote:
And John Denver’s name gets pushed further from our memories .

You came on my pillow, like a horse in a forest ...


Now is he (Roy) properly dead or considered dead or just might be dead?


"Dead" dead.

Proper Dead.

Dead.

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RIP

I saw him pitch once vs. Buehrle. It was a 6 pm Saturday start on fireworks night. I think both of them threw complete games and the fireworks started with the suns till out as the game was about 2 hours in duration.

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October 12, 2017 / ICON Aircraft delivered the first Model Year 2018 (MY18) A5 to former Major League Baseball pitcher, Roy Halladay.

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That's a bad look.

RIP Roy. You were fun to watch.

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That sucks. Hope he gets into Cooperstown posthumously, even though baseball-reference has him in Mike Mussina pitcher purgatory. Hard to argue against him being one of the very best pitchers of the 2000s.

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One of the best games I ever watched in person

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Don Tiny wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
And John Denver’s name gets pushed further from our memories .

You came on my pillow, like a horse in a forest ...


Now is he (Roy) properly dead or considered dead or just might be dead?


"Dead" dead.

Proper Dead.

Dead.


Well hell then.

Strange how big a difference there was with his pitch control while on the mound compared to his pitch control while flying a plane.

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That sucks. Hope he gets into Cooperstown posthumously, even though baseball-reference has him in Mike Mussina pitcher purgatory. Hard to argue against him being one of the very best pitchers of the 2000s.

How is he not a HOFer?

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Curious Hair wrote:
That sucks. Hope he gets into Cooperstown posthumously, even though baseball-reference has him in Mike Mussina pitcher purgatory. Hard to argue against him being one of the very best pitchers of the 2000s.

How is he not a HOFer?

because Cooperstown is dumb and overvalues W-L

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Curious Hair wrote:
That sucks. Hope he gets into Cooperstown posthumously, even though baseball-reference has him in Mike Mussina pitcher purgatory. Hard to argue against him being one of the very best pitchers of the 2000s.

How is he not a HOFer?

because Cooperstown is dumb and overvalues W-L


He won 200 games. That's a lot of games nowadays. He's in. He has got to be.


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That sucks. Hope he gets into Cooperstown posthumously, even though baseball-reference has him in Mike Mussina pitcher purgatory. Hard to argue against him being one of the very best pitchers of the 2000s.

How is he not a HOFer?

because Cooperstown is dumb and overvalues W-L

So they overvalue W-L and still don't think a .659 winning percentage is good enough? I doubt that.

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That sucks. Hope he gets into Cooperstown posthumously, even though baseball-reference has him in Mike Mussina pitcher purgatory. Hard to argue against him being one of the very best pitchers of the 2000s.

How is he not a HOFer?

I dunno, his comps are all HOVGers like Oswalt, Guidry, Mussina, Gooden, and Hudson. Though maybe Tim Hudson will get in and the point will be moot. But I think he should get in. The short-term high-profile dominance with Philly probably overrides the long-term low-profile dominance with Toronto.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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That sucks. Hope he gets into Cooperstown posthumously, even though baseball-reference has him in Mike Mussina pitcher purgatory. Hard to argue against him being one of the very best pitchers of the 2000s.

How is he not a HOFer?

because Cooperstown is dumb and overvalues W-L


He won 200 games. That's a lot of games nowadays. He's in. He has got to be.

If we are going to lower standards that much, there's about 50 guys that would deserve to go in before Halladay.

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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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That sucks. Hope he gets into Cooperstown posthumously, even though baseball-reference has him in Mike Mussina pitcher purgatory. Hard to argue against him being one of the very best pitchers of the 2000s.

How is he not a HOFer?

because Cooperstown is dumb and overvalues W-L


He won 200 games. That's a lot of games nowadays. He's in. He has got to be.

If we are going to lower standards that much, there's about 50 guys that would deserve to go in before Halladay.

Name em

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Incidentally, Mussina actually should get in before Halladay, that he's not in baffles me.

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Hussra wrote:
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October 12, 2017 / ICON Aircraft delivered the first Model Year 2018 (MY18) A5 to former Major League Baseball pitcher, Roy Halladay.

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November 7, 2017 / Roy Halladay's ICON A5 light sport aircraft crashed into the Gulf 10 miles west of St. Petersburg at about 1 p.m., the Pasco County Sheriff's Office said.



That's a bad look.

RIP Roy. You were fun to watch.



This particular model of ICON aircraft crashed 20 minutes after take off back in May, during the development phase:

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so the prototype crashes and then the first production craft crashes as well.


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Douchebag wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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That sucks. Hope he gets into Cooperstown posthumously, even though baseball-reference has him in Mike Mussina pitcher purgatory. Hard to argue against him being one of the very best pitchers of the 2000s.

How is he not a HOFer?

because Cooperstown is dumb and overvalues W-L


He won 200 games. That's a lot of games nowadays. He's in. He has got to be.

If we are going to lower standards that much, there's about 50 guys that would deserve to go in before Halladay.

Ridiculous.

Halladay is a lock.


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