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Author: | Nas [ Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
Spaulding wrote: RFDC wrote: oh lord. No one is even coming close to saying that. They are clearly saying because they provide for the family the are the most important and not thanked appropriately and women don't need extra. I don't think it's really that. Society has always celebrated mothers and even with some culture shifts that hasn't changed. Just acknowledging a reality. I was a single father for a decade. I'm more than aware of how hard all the things outside of providing are. Especially with 2 girls. I have a greater understanding and appreciation of those things than I would have otherwise had. |
Author: | Nas [ Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
Spaulding wrote: Nas wrote: The baby thing is different. You're worshipped for about 9-21 months. Whatever you want within reason we'll get/do. Then we should shut up an respect your authority and go back to being good wives where the man is put first because he's important and provides financially. Just whine slightly less and don't demand that we acknowledge that you put tissue on the roll in a bathroom. |
Author: | Spaulding [ Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
You are only a year off. |
Author: | Nas [ Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
That's unfair |
Author: | Spaulding [ Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
And totally in line with what you are saying. I'm important in my household even if I don't bring in any income and the financial burden falls on my husband. I'm not a leech, I'm fully aware of what he does, but I'm not some spongy asshole. We're a family. |
Author: | Nas [ Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
Spaulding wrote: And totally in line with what you are saying. I'm important in my household even if I don't bring in any income and the financial burden falls on my husband. I'm not a leech, I'm fully aware of what he does, but I'm not some spongy asshole. We're a family. Have you read my posts? I've said no such thing. In fact I said that being a single father for a decade gave me a greater understanding and appreciation of those things. I know what you do isn't easy. I've simply said that no one (men or women) should be beat up for not frequently celebrating things we're supposed to do. I'm saying that our contributions to the family are equal. |
Author: | RFDC [ Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
The level of exaggeration by Spaulding in this thread is off the charts |
Author: | GoldenJet [ Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:11 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
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Author: | Hank Scorpio [ Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
Spaulding feels guilty and is projecting. Gtfo I got my wife a gift because having a baby is hard and a small couple hundred dollar necklace or earrings wasnt too much to ask. |
Author: | Jbi11s [ Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:31 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
Whole lot of projecting in this thread. I agree with Hank. Push gifts are the least you can do after what she just went through. |
Author: | Peoria Matt [ Sun Jan 12, 2020 1:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
good dolphin wrote: These are ridiculous creations of this generation in the same vein as gender reveal parties. Every moment and memory needs an expensive ceremony in order to highlight just how special it is to the world. Take a picture or video rather than experience an event. GTFO with that. Our narcissism has been unleashed like at no other time in human history. GD, I have never agreed more with a post of yours. |
Author: | Clawmaster [ Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
Peoria Matt wrote: good dolphin wrote: These are ridiculous creations of this generation in the same vein as gender reveal parties. Every moment and memory needs an expensive ceremony in order to highlight just how special it is to the world. Take a picture or video rather than experience an event. GTFO with that. Our narcissism has been unleashed like at no other time in human history. GD, I have never agreed more with a post of yours. Daughter recently told me one of her friends was named a, "Social Media Influencer". I reminded her that when I would cut up hot dogs and mix them into the Mac and Cheese I made for them at sleepovers when they were in Junior High that her friend would say it was the best thing she had ever tasted. My daughter said, she remembered that very well to which I then asked wouldn't that make me an influencer of a social media influencer? She replied with usual, "OK Boomer" the kids use to stop discussion whenever someone older brings up the ridiculousness of something that they feel is important. |
Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
How about you take care of your wife and child? Does every occasion have to be a reason to buy fucking jewelry? The capitalist will sell you the rope used to hang him. |
Author: | SpiralStairs [ Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: How about you take care of your wife and child? Does every occasion have to be a reason to buy fucking jewelry? The capitalist will sell you the rope used to hang him. Ok boomer |
Author: | Brick [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:49 pm ] |
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: How about you take care of your wife and child? Does every occasion have to be a reason to buy fucking jewelry? The capitalist will sell you the rope used to hang him. A little bit of appreciation for stay at home moms would be nice. |
Author: | Regular Reader [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:58 pm ] |
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: How about you take care of your wife and child? Does every occasion have to be a reason to buy fucking jewelry? The capitalist will sell you the rope used to hang him. A little bit of appreciation for stay at home moms would be nice. That vacuum didn't buy itself mister! |
Author: | BigW72 [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:06 pm ] |
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: How about you take care of your wife and child? Does every occasion have to be a reason to buy fucking jewelry? The capitalist will sell you the rope used to hang him. A little bit of appreciation for stay at home moms would be nice. No. I had one of those in a former life and she was a fucking bum. For every Spaulding there's 5 bums watching Oprah and Days Of Our Lives all day. |
Author: | Kirkwood [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:24 pm ] |
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: How about you take care of your wife and child? Does every occasion have to be a reason to buy fucking jewelry? The capitalist will sell you the rope used to hang him. Listen to the podcast before you start firing away. As with everything in this world, context is everything. |
Author: | Heisenberg [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:29 pm ] |
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What kills me is the educated stay-at-home feminist Moms. There are some in my neighborhood that have law degrees and wore Hillary attire in 2016. They rail on men, misogyny, Trump, patriarchy, etc. They don’t work outside the home, but have time for lunches with friends, yoga, bible study, tennis, etc. I think most have cleaning services. So they are actually living like it’s 1956 and putting all the financial burden on their husbands, but pretend to be woke. |
Author: | KDdidit [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:41 pm ] |
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Heisenberg wrote: What kills me is the educated stay-at-home feminist Moms. There are some in my neighborhood that have law degrees and wore Hillary attire in 2016. They rail on men, misogyny, Trump, patriarchy, etc. They don’t work outside the home, but have time for lunches with friends, yoga, bible study, tennis, etc. I think most have cleaning services. So they are actually living like it’s 1956 and putting all the financial burden on their husbands, but pretend to be woke. Why aren't they prisoners in their own homes?!?!?!? |
Author: | Kirkwood [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
Heisenberg wrote: What kills me is the educated stay-at-home feminist Moms. There are some in my neighborhood that have law degrees and wore Hillary attire in 2016. They rail on men, misogyny, Trump, patriarchy, etc. They don’t work outside the home, but have time for lunches with friends, yoga, bible study, tennis, etc. I think most have cleaning services. So they are actually living like it’s 1956 and putting all the financial burden on their husbands, but pretend to be woke. Why does staying at home prevent them from advocating or protesting against those causes. |
Author: | Spaulding [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
BigW72 wrote: No. I had one of those in a former life and she was a fucking bum. For every Spaulding there's 5 bums watching Oprah and Days Of Our Lives all day. I spend quite a bit of time here somedays, don't know that I'm a great example. Heisenberg wrote: What kills me is the educated stay-at-home feminist Moms. There are some in my neighborhood that have law degrees and wore Hillary attire in 2016. They rail on men, misogyny, Trump, patriarchy, etc. They don’t work outside the home, but have time for lunches with friends, yoga, bible study, tennis, etc. I think most have cleaning services. So they are actually living like it’s 1956 and putting all the financial burden on their husbands, but pretend to be woke. Those dumb bitches! |
Author: | Caller Bob [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:59 pm ] |
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Spaulding wrote: Anybody want to come right out and say since men do more or all of the financial supporting they are more put upon have the toughest job and women are worthless burdens that you put up with and you resent them for it? @Spaulding DiCaro |
Author: | Heisenberg [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:12 pm ] |
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Kirkwood wrote: Heisenberg wrote: What kills me is the educated stay-at-home feminist Moms. There are some in my neighborhood that have law degrees and wore Hillary attire in 2016. They rail on men, misogyny, Trump, patriarchy, etc. They don’t work outside the home, but have time for lunches with friends, yoga, bible study, tennis, etc. I think most have cleaning services. So they are actually living like it’s 1956 and putting all the financial burden on their husbands, but pretend to be woke. Why does staying at home prevent them from advocating or protesting against those causes. I find it hypocritical. |
Author: | Nas [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
BigW72 wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: How about you take care of your wife and child? Does every occasion have to be a reason to buy fucking jewelry? The capitalist will sell you the rope used to hang him. A little bit of appreciation for stay at home moms would be nice. No. I had one of those in a former life and she was a fucking bum. For every Spaulding there's 5 bums watching Oprah and Days Of Our Lives all day. Respectfully, I think you have it backwards. For every 5 Spaulding's there is a bum. When my oldest daughter was born I was the guy who was working 10+ hour days 7 days a week driving all over Illinois, Wisconsin and Indiana writing mortgage loans. I was pretty good at it. I essentially just went home to sleep and then I was out the door no later than 7am the following day. There were weeks when I would only see my oldest daughter sleeping. I would get home and complain about my clothes not being taken to the cleaners or why my daughter had on a dirty shirt and a bunch of other really petty things. In my mind what she was doing was easy. I was out busting my ass to put us in a house and take care of everything else. I became a single father of 3 small kids a decade ago. I told myself how easy it would be. Within days I realized that I was in over my head. I didn't have enough time to do so many things. Pride and stubbornness were the only things that kept me from begging for help. Since that time I've realized that staying at home and taking care of the house and kids was a lot harder than going out and making a dollar. There are far more demands put on you and you just can't fly in and be the hero. I've also seen male family members and friends get divorced and not even attempt to put up a fight to get custody of their kids. Unlike me, they knew they couldn't do the job. I'm confident if most men were forced to do what "housewives" do for a few weeks without help from their mother or any other female family member, they would never complain about what their spouse does at home again. It's not easy. |
Author: | Spaulding [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
Heisenberg wrote: Kirkwood wrote: Heisenberg wrote: What kills me is the educated stay-at-home feminist Moms. There are some in my neighborhood that have law degrees and wore Hillary attire in 2016. They rail on men, misogyny, Trump, patriarchy, etc. They don’t work outside the home, but have time for lunches with friends, yoga, bible study, tennis, etc. I think most have cleaning services. So they are actually living like it’s 1956 and putting all the financial burden on their husbands, but pretend to be woke. Why does staying at home prevent them from advocating or protesting against those causes. I find it hypocritical. Those women should probably house alone and not try to find any ways to fill their time unless it's related to deifying their husband in some way. Their education is completely worthless shoulda kept em dumb I suppose. |
Author: | Hatchetman [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:51 pm ] |
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Heisenberg wrote: What kills me is the educated stay-at-home feminist Moms. There are some in my neighborhood that have law degrees and wore Hillary attire in 2016. They rail on men, misogyny, Trump, patriarchy, etc. . are you hanging out with them? How do you know all this? |
Author: | Spaulding [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:54 pm ] |
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Nas wrote: Respectfully, I think you have it backwards. For every 5 Spaulding's there is a bum. When my oldest daughter was born I was the guy who was working 10+ hour days 7 days a week driving all over Illinois, Wisconsin and Indiana writing mortgage loans. I was pretty good at it. I essentially just went home to sleep and then I was out the door no later than 7am the following day. There were weeks when I would only see my oldest daughter sleeping. I would get home and complain about my clothes not being taken to the cleaners or why my daughter had on a dirty shirt and a bunch of other really petty things. In my mind what she was doing was easy. I was out busting my ass to put us in a house and take care of everything else. I became a single father of 3 small kids a decade ago. I told myself how easy it would be. Within days I realized that I was in over my head. I didn't have enough time to do so many things. Pride and stubbornness were the only things that kept me from begging for help. Since that time I've realized that staying at home and taking care of the house and kids was a lot harder than going out and making a dollar. There are far more demands put on you and you just can't fly in and be the hero. I've also seen male family members and friends get divorced and not even attempt to put up a fight to get custody of their kids. Unlike me, they knew they couldn't do the job. I'm confident if most men were forced to do what "housewives" do for a few weeks without help from their mother or any other female family member, they would never complain about what their spouse does at home again. It's not easy. Mostly true for when they are little it's easier as they age but they need to be driven around. I think I've told this story before. My husband travels, he came home one week and asked what I'd been doing and the house was a little messy. The next day I said I need to do errands and I disappeared from about 7 in the morning til about 7 at night. There was no dinner ready, the house was a little worse when I left it. I walked in and said the house is a little messy and where's dinner? What did you do all day? He nodded and said okay I got the message. It's also a fairly mundane existence. It's difficult in that it's very repetitive, can be lonely, and you never feel like you get it all done. Home the place where the breadwinners can't wait to come home and relax is viewed in some ways as the job by the stay at homers. |
Author: | Nas [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
Spaulding wrote: Nas wrote: Respectfully, I think you have it backwards. For every 5 Spaulding's there is a bum. When my oldest daughter was born I was the guy who was working 10+ hour days 7 days a week driving all over Illinois, Wisconsin and Indiana writing mortgage loans. I was pretty good at it. I essentially just went home to sleep and then I was out the door no later than 7am the following day. There were weeks when I would only see my oldest daughter sleeping. I would get home and complain about my clothes not being taken to the cleaners or why my daughter had on a dirty shirt and a bunch of other really petty things. In my mind what she was doing was easy. I was out busting my ass to put us in a house and take care of everything else. I became a single father of 3 small kids a decade ago. I told myself how easy it would be. Within days I realized that I was in over my head. I didn't have enough time to do so many things. Pride and stubbornness were the only things that kept me from begging for help. Since that time I've realized that staying at home and taking care of the house and kids was a lot harder than going out and making a dollar. There are far more demands put on you and you just can't fly in and be the hero. I've also seen male family members and friends get divorced and not even attempt to put up a fight to get custody of their kids. Unlike me, they knew they couldn't do the job. I'm confident if most men were forced to do what "housewives" do for a few weeks without help from their mother or any other female family member, they would never complain about what their spouse does at home again. It's not easy. Mostly true for when they are little it's easier as they age but they need to be driven around. I think I've told this story before. My husband travels, he came home one week and asked what I'd been doing and the house was a little messy. The next day I said I need to do errands and I disappeared from about 7 in the morning til about 7 at night. There was no dinner ready, the house was a little worse when I left it. I walked in and said the house is a little messy and where's dinner? What did you do all day? He nodded and said okay I got the message. It's also a fairly mundane existence. It's difficult in that it's very repetitive, can be lonely, and you never feel like you get it all done. Home the place where the breadwinners can't wait to come home and relax is viewed in some ways as the job by the stay at homers. She used to tell me that she had nothing of her own. Young Nas thought she was insane. I get it now. |
Author: | Spaulding [ Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Push Gifts |
Bathroom time isn’t even my own. The dog used to come in, people stand outside and ask questions that I have no answer to. Mom! Where’s my brush? |
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