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So, during the third quarter of the first quarter of the show?

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So, during the third quarter of the first quarter of the show?


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Yeah buddy- that sound like some riveting radio I missed. I wonder if it's as good as that Minn coach. What was the point of that interview? Who the hell cares about University of Minnesota football?

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It actually was a pretty entertaining interview. Lovie laughed, which I had never heard before.


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Yes Lovie was relaxed, funny and nice to Chicago.

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I've never quite gotten the Lovie bitter distaste many have for him. Certainly in light of what has followed in McCaskey land

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You would have liked that Lovie and the guys had a little fun with how bad the Bears have been and he got canned after a 10 win season.

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Lovie is the best HC the Bears have had since Halas. Nothing but fond memories of the man.


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I've never quite gotten the Lovie bitter distaste many have for him. Certainly in light of what has followed in McCaskey land


I look forward to the interview. Lovie became overly defensive and condescending in his later years. Fox is much more annoying. I don't ever want hear any press conference from him again. Too bad Trestman failed. He was interesting.

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Yeah buddy- that sound like some riveting radio I missed. I wonder if it's as good as that Minn coach. What was the point of that interview? Who the hell cares about University of Minnesota football?


Would it be bizarre if I raised my hand?

Look, it is the B10 cavalcade of coaches this week in Chicago. It is entirely appropriate to get any and all for the couple of days. I promise you the Atlanta station is wall to wall football the days of the SEC coaches pre season meetings.

I think there is a sizable college football fan base in this city. No station cultivates it.

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I've never quite gotten the Lovie bitter distaste many have for him. Certainly in light of what has followed in McCaskey land


Overall, I agree. Lovie's teams always had speed, forced turnovers, and in years where the roster looked really questionable...they competed. I would also argue the same for Dick Jauron. As weird and entertaining is Dick Jauron was, those teams really overachieved.

After the SB appearance, it became clear that Lovie had more say in Personnel and we saw the addition of washed up zeros like Adam Artuletta.....not good. I also agree, after while he came as very smug, but he has company in that group.

Lovie as a coach clearly was not the problem....we've seen there are by far worse head coaching options and the organization was an absolutely CF. Honestly....Lovie > Trestman and Lovie > John Fox

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Too bad Trestman failed. He was interesting.


Yeah, when he openly ripped Cutler on the first day of camp (this is not a symposium!"), I had high hopes.

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Lovie is the best HC the Bears have had since Halas. Nothing but fond memories of the man.



Ditka > Lovie

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Look, it is the B10 cavalcade of coaches this week in Chicago. It is entirely appropriate to get any and all for the couple of days. I promise you the Atlanta station is wall to wall football the days of the SEC coaches pre season meetings.

I think there is a sizable college football fan base in this city. No station cultivates it.


Minnesota football? Raise your hand if you're a Gophers fan.

And I don't care what Atlanta does. This is a pro town. If you liked it, wonderful. I turned it off. At least get a coach from Illinois.

I did enjoy the Lovie interview.

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Lovie is the best HC the Bears have had since Halas. Nothing but fond memories of the man.



Ditka > Lovie


Not sure about that....any decent HC would have won more than 1 Super Bowl with that collection of talent.

Ditka proved to be a pretty lousy head coach.

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I've defended Lovie for years, and I figured you had a 90% chance that each subsequent coach would be worse than Lovie. There are really only a few elite coaches, and Lovie was at the top of the rest. His teams had a very clear identity- get turnovers with a bend don't break defense and focus on special teams. Last year''s Bears had the fewest turnovers forced in team history. Quite the contrast.

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Recognized by his peers... they're just jealous of his plum job. I wonder if anything changes when he loses at home by 3 TD to Western Kentucky next month.

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I think there is a sizable college football fan base in this city. No station cultivates it.

If there is (and I don't believe there really is), it's too diffuse to do anything with. U of I sucks, Northwestern is whatever, and 670 may have a more toxic relationship with Notre Dame than it does with the Blackhawks and that's saying a lot, so that eliminates the local-ish teams. Any attention on the rest of the Big Ten or god forbid the SEC/ACC/Pac alienates more people than it interests, especially when it's concurrent with DUH BEARS and there's this apparent appetite for infinite Bears coverage, no matter how useless they've been the last decade.

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I've never quite gotten the Lovie bitter distaste many have for him. Certainly in light of what has followed in McCaskey land


Overall, I agree. Lovie's teams always had speed, forced turnovers, and in years where the roster looked really questionable...they competed. I would also argue the same for Dick Jauron. As weird and entertaining is Dick Jauron was, those teams really overachieved.

After the SB appearance, it became clear that Lovie had more say in Personnel and we saw the addition of washed up zeros like Adam Artuletta.....not good. I also agree, after while he came as very smug, but he has company in that group.

Lovie as a coach clearly was not the problem....we've seen there are by far worse head coaching options and the organization was an absolutely CF. Honestly....Lovie > Trestman and Lovie > John Fox


I've always been fans of Jauron's and Love's. They got the most out of what they had and they gave you hope. Nothing worse than watching football and you know your team doesn't have a chance

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I think there is a sizable college football fan base in this city. No station cultivates it.

If there is (and I don't believe there really is), it's too diffuse to do anything with. U of I sucks, Northwestern is whatever, and 670 may have a more toxic relationship with Notre Dame than it does with the Blackhawks and that's saying a lot, so that eliminates the local-ish teams. Any attention on the rest of the Big Ten or god forbid the SEC/ACC/Pac alienates more people than it interests, especially when it's concurrent with DUH BEARS and there's this apparent appetite for infinite Bears coverage, no matter how useless they've been the last decade.


I think you're spot on CH. As a guy who went to UIUC, there just isn't the loyalty to that school from suburban kids that say everyone in Wisconsin feels toward the Badgers. I am an ND fan, and most of my classmates either cheered for Michigan or ND. No one talked about UIUC. In that way, the fan base is diffuse. Northwestern was an absolute door mat so it never built a local following except among its rich alums. Chicago has no real college football teams.

Most people view UIUC as downstate when in fact it is central Illinois. And even central Illinois is too far south for people that have regional tastes. As such, they feel no connection to the Illini. I never went to one game.

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Even Wisconsin (at least in Milwaukee's orbit) doesn't really love Badger football with the sort of obsessive loyalty one associates with college sports. That's for the Packers. The best way I can put it is that they act as an appetizer for the main course: they're very popular and people want them to do well even if they don't follow the day-to-day minutiae, but ultimately they don't matter the way the Packers do.

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Look, it is the B10 cavalcade of coaches this week in Chicago. It is entirely appropriate to get any and all for the couple of days. I promise you the Atlanta station is wall to wall football the days of the SEC coaches pre season meetings.

I think there is a sizable college football fan base in this city. No station cultivates it.


Minnesota football? Raise your hand if you're a Gophers fan.


I didn't hear it, but I'd guess they had him on more because he's a local guy than because of some high level of interest in Gopher football.

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I think there is a sizable college football fan base in this city. No station cultivates it.

If there is (and I don't believe there really is), it's too diffuse to do anything with. U of I sucks, Northwestern is whatever, and 670 may have a more toxic relationship with Notre Dame than it does with the Blackhawks and that's saying a lot, so that eliminates the local-ish teams. Any attention on the rest of the Big Ten or god forbid the SEC/ACC/Pac alienates more people than it interests, especially when it's concurrent with DUH BEARS and there's this apparent appetite for infinite Bears coverage, no matter how useless they've been the last decade.


I think you're spot on CH. As a guy who went to UIUC, there just isn't the loyalty to that school from suburban kids that say everyone in Wisconsin feels toward the Badgers. I am an ND fan, and most of my classmates either cheered for Michigan or ND. No one talked about UIUC. In that way, the fan base is diffuse. Northwestern was an absolute door mat so it never built a local following except among its rich alums. Chicago has no real college football teams.

Most people view UIUC as downstate when in fact it is central Illinois. And even central Illinois is too far south for people that have regional tastes. As such, they feel no connection to the Illini. I never went to one game.



They were really good when I was down there and there was a buzz about them but it was just like a normal game at Notre Dame or not even as much interest as a down year for Ohio State.

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I think there is a sizable college football fan base in this city. No station cultivates it.

If there is (and I don't believe there really is), it's too diffuse to do anything with. U of I sucks, Northwestern is whatever, and 670 may have a more toxic relationship with Notre Dame than it does with the Blackhawks and that's saying a lot, so that eliminates the local-ish teams. Any attention on the rest of the Big Ten or god forbid the SEC/ACC/Pac alienates more people than it interests, especially when it's concurrent with DUH BEARS and there's this apparent appetite for infinite Bears coverage, no matter how useless they've been the last decade.


I think you're spot on CH. As a guy who went to UIUC, there just isn't the loyalty to that school from suburban kids that say everyone in Wisconsin feels toward the Badgers. I am an ND fan, and most of my classmates either cheered for Michigan or ND. No one talked about UIUC. In that way, the fan base is diffuse. Northwestern was an absolute door mat so it never built a local following except among its rich alums. Chicago has no real college football teams.

Most people view UIUC as downstate when in fact it is central Illinois. And even central Illinois is too far south for people that have regional tastes. As such, they feel no connection to the Illini. I never went to one game.

Didn't you hate it there and get out quickly? Of course you feel that way. There are a lot of Chicagoans who live the illini.

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I've never quite gotten the Lovie bitter distaste many have for him. Certainly in light of what has followed in McCaskey land


Overall, I agree. Lovie's teams always had speed, forced turnovers, and in years where the roster looked really questionable...they competed. I would also argue the same for Dick Jauron. As weird and entertaining is Dick Jauron was, those teams really overachieved.

After the SB appearance, it became clear that Lovie had more say in Personnel and we saw the addition of washed up zeros like Adam Artuletta.....not good. I also agree, after while he came as very smug, but he has company in that group.

Lovie as a coach clearly was not the problem....we've seen there are by far worse head coaching options and the organization was an absolutely CF. Honestly....Lovie > Trestman and Lovie > John Fox


I've always been fans of Jauron's and Love's. They got the most out of what they had and they gave you hope. Nothing worse than watching football and you know your team doesn't have a chance



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"Downstate" is just the appellation for anything outside Chicagoland to a lot of people. I've heard Rockford referred to as downstate, which I object to.

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"Downstate" is just the appellation for anything outside Chicagoland to a lot of people. I've heard Rockford referred to as downstate, which I object to.


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"Downstate" is just the appellation for anything outside Chicagoland to a lot of people. I've heard Rockford referred to as downstate, which I object to.


I've had people who live further south than I do but live in the far south burbs refer to where I live as way down south.


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If UIUC was even remotely popular up here, you would see local athletes going there. For students, it is a settle school. It was exactly as Tom Cruise said in Risky Business. Very few have it as their first choice.

You rarely see people walking around in Illini gear.

I can't prove any of this. Simply my observations from living here my entire life and going there.

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