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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:29 am 
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so like how the Grammy's has musical performances, do people get up there and fuck on stage during this thing ?


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Actually it doesn't unless they make you perform as part of your duties. It might happen that the host is an actor as well. It might be the host is a comedian, like Aries Spears

Nah. You erred. Its ok to admit it. They are hosted by porn stars. Mac knows this being an admitted patron of the trade. They aren't simply porn stars when they are performing porn duties.
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Nope. Take a look at your own post. Hosted by adult film super star Nikki Benz and cam-girl Emily Bloom along with comedian Aries Spears. That's three hosts.



So that's what Aries Spears is doing now..


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Well to be fair, McNeil is paid to comment on sports matter. Principals are paid to teach students, not comment on their shoulders or outfits.

But McNeil made a big blunder in this hypersensitive world. It’s really fairly innocent, but people are just looking to be offended. Plus she was a poor target. But McNeil has long commented on air about the broadcasts.


He isn't paid to say that a sideline reporter is dressed like a porn star.


He didn't say she dressed like a porn star. He said she was dressed like a person covering the AVNs. That's a pretty significant distinction from what you write. Saying she is dressed like a porn star gives some implication of impugning her morality. Dressing like someone who covers the award show journalisticaly only implies that she is not dressing more appropriately for a much more casual gig.


How does a person covering the AVNs happen to dress? Are they known to dress as sideline reporters dress or porn stars?

The AVNs are known for featuring promiscuous dress that is anything but tasteful. Leather is a large component of that kind of wardrobe. I can't post MANY pictures, but a Google search of "AVN awards leather" should give you plenty of, um, material.

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I've said before that the joke should have been worded more precisely to be about clothing rather than the person in the clothing, but to pretend that there isn't at least some common, ahem, threads, linking Taylor's wardrobe on MNF to the "leather greaser jacket but revealing" aesthetic that can be found on the red carpet of the AVNs is completely and totally disingenuous.


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Idk.

It was just shoulders.

She’s worn more revealing attire.

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Idk.

It was just shoulders.

She’s worn more revealing attire.

Well, it was also a joke. Do we really have to parse why a joke need not be literally true in order to, ahem, arouse humor?


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You’re asking me if we should parse?

You?

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Seriously though, what value do female sideline reporters even offer? I mean other than eye candy but I can get that from other places.

When is the last time one of them has said something insightful about the game? I mean they are even more useless than Pierre McGuire on an NHL broadcast as at least Pierre will tell you where some Russian kid played junior hockey while he whacks off to Sidney Crosby like he's that guy in Omaha Joe McGrath tells us about in Slap Shot

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I've said before that the joke should have been worded more precisely to be about clothing rather than the person in the clothing, but to pretend that there isn't at least some common, ahem, threads, linking Taylor's wardrobe on MNF to the "leather greaser jacket but revealing" aesthetic that can be found on the red carpet of the AVNs is completely and totally disingenuous.


And to suggest that McNeil comment wasn't a way of referencing her being a porn star is even more "disingenuous". In a word its a "lie".

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not porn star, host of the AVN awards.

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not porn star, host of the AVN awards.


open, just operating differently


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I've said before that the joke should have been worded more precisely to be about clothing rather than the person in the clothing, but to pretend that there isn't at least some common, ahem, threads, linking Taylor's wardrobe on MNF to the "leather greaser jacket but revealing" aesthetic that can be found on the red carpet of the AVNs is completely and totally disingenuous.


And to suggest that McNeil comment wasn't a way of referencing her being a porn star is even more "disingenuous". In a word its a "lie".

If you mean to say that even if Mac had worded the joke to plainly be about the types of dress found at the AVNs, the joke would be meant to demean Taylor as a porn star because most people who dress like that at the AVNs are porn stars, then you must live in a world where no joke or musing is ever acceptable because of the far-reaching implications of the logic of the joke itself. In your world, I've called you promiscuous when I say that you "spend your money like a drunken sailor" because part of my joke likens you to a sailor, and sailors are also known to, ahem, dock their dinghiess in many a wharfs.

That's not really how jokes work, and it is, again but not surprisingly, disingenuous to want to punish someone because of the disingenuous implications of their jokes.


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Whether he meant porn star or someone who would host the porn Oscar doesn't really matter. Why argue over that?


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long time guy wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I've said before that the joke should have been worded more precisely to be about clothing rather than the person in the clothing, but to pretend that there isn't at least some common, ahem, threads, linking Taylor's wardrobe on MNF to the "leather greaser jacket but revealing" aesthetic that can be found on the red carpet of the AVNs is completely and totally disingenuous.


And to suggest that McNeil comment wasn't a way of referencing her being a porn star is even more "disingenuous". In a word its a "lie".


That's your own bias.

His comments are about her clothes, not her promiscuity. Even if a person dressed like a porn star (whatever that means) doesn't mean they are a porn star any more than it means I'm a football player when I wear a jersey.

There is one step in logic that you are filling in with your own thoughts to arrive at "he said she's a porn star"

I guess neither of us is changing each others opinion so I'll stop. Would you at least concede he did not say she is a porn star and I will say it is a possible inference and that we both don't know if it was an implication?

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Whether he meant porn star or someone who would host the porn Oscar doesn't really matter. Why argue over that?


Um, it’s the CFMB. :wink:

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Seriously though, what value do female sideline reporters even offer?

Simple: They get 25-54-year-old Male Breadwinner's dicks Hard.

And when the blood is rushing to the 25-54-year-old Male Breadwinner's dick, it is shunted away from the 25-54-year-old Male Breadwinner's brain.

Which leads to more impulse purchases by the 25-54-year-old Male Breadwinner that would normally not occur if one was in a non-aroused state, which leads to more money for the companies advertising on that particular broadcast.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Whether he meant porn star or someone who would host the porn Oscar doesn't really matter. Why argue over that?


Especially if the woke crowd feels sex workers should not be ashamed.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Whether he meant porn star or someone who would host the porn Oscar doesn't really matter. Why argue over that?


Because its CFMB that's why and guys have difficulty admitting they are wrong about anything. If McNeil didn't believe that he had said something out of pocket he never would have removed the tweet. The hosts are porn stars so when he says "host of an AVN Awards show" he is quite clearly referencing porn stars

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Jbi11s wrote:
Idk.

It was just shoulders.

She’s worn more revealing attire.


No but was it "Leather"? Ooh when people think of leather they immediately think "PORN". Who knew?

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Jbi11s wrote:
Idk.

It was just shoulders.

She’s worn more revealing attire.


No but was it "Leather"? Ooh when people think of leather they immediately think "PORN". Who knew?

I dunno . We had a national outrage over people thinking a garage door pull that was there for months was a noose directed at a black driver who had never been there before . People think all sorts of weird things.

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Luckily, those will soon be the only jobs left!

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Before he "evolved", Goff used to refer to homeless people as "lazy bums". That's the kind of diverse perspective we need on the Chicago airwaves!

He also said people with depression should get over it.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Seriously though, what value do female sideline reporters even offer?


There's the crux of it and what nobody wants to admit. They're not there for their insightful questions and comments regarding the sport. They're there because they look hot. Otherwise there would be more men that look like Pete Axthelm doing the job.

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Here's a question. Do you think the Call Her Daddy podcast would be as popular as it is if all the content was exactly the same but the words were being uttered by Julie and Maggie? Life ain't fair. Ryan Reynolds gets to bang Johansson and Lively and you don't.

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If McNeil didn't believe that he had said something out of pocket he never would have removed the tweet.


I've seen this mentioned various times.

It seems clear he removed the tweet based on the backlash, deserved or not - that determination is a personal opinion, clearly, based on the debate here.

But, the action of deleting it doesn't necessarily indicate that he thinks he did something wrong - only that he understood that this is turning into something that he certainly didn't expect.

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2018 AVN awards cohost for reference:

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Sarah Spain's finally putting it back together

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I'm not saying there aren't women that have great sports thoughts and can report and write on sports as well as any man. Of course there are. Some of them are hot too. But when we're talking about these jobs, the criteria for hiring is the hotness, not the great sports thoughts.

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If McNeil didn't believe that he had said something out of pocket he never would have removed the tweet.


I've seen this mentioned various times.

It seems clear he removed the tweet based on the backlash, deserved or not - that determination is a personal opinion, clearly, based on the debate here.

But, the action of deleting it doesn't necessarily indicate that he thinks he did something wrong - only that he understood that this is turning into something that he certainly didn't expect.


My understanding is that he removed it 30 minutes before there was even backlash about it.

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Jbi11s wrote:
2018 AVN awards cohost for reference:

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Sarah Spain's finally putting it back together

Sarah's are sagging a lot more than that. Her billionaire real-estate husband will probably be dumping her for an upgraded model in a few years. Sarah will be his "Ivana"

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Seriously though, what value do female sideline reporters even offer?


There's the crux of it and what nobody wants to admit. They're not there for their insightful questions and comments regarding the sport. They're there because they look hot. Otherwise there would be more men that look like Pete Axthelm doing the job.


They are no better or worse than men are at it. Very few sideline guys give you shit either.

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Tall Midget wrote:
Before he "evolved", Goff used to refer to homeless people as "lazy bums". That's the kind of diverse perspective we need on the Chicago airwaves!

He also said people with depression should get over it.


That's what got Skip Bayless into hot water recently. In fact, it's the last thing I heard Mac talk about on WSCR the other day. They were discussing Bayless's comments about Dak Prescott being soft and a bad leader because he said the pandemic had "depressed" him. Bayless's point was that clinical depression is real and serious and can be treated with drugs, but Prescott's depression was more of the garden-variety sadness that is completely natural when bad things happen to you, and is not the result of a chemical imbalance. Both Mac and Parkins called Bayless a troll and Parkins said his own therapist (?) said "situational" depression was just as real as "clinical" depression.

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