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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
Arrogate on the fence. California Chrome out in the 12 hole. I'm sure Pletcher has Keen Ice sitting on a big race. Can he shock the world again? A buck and an eighth might be too short. |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
Don't like Arrogate not working over Gulfsteams surface,,,,looking for someone on the inside with speed....really don't like closers at Hallandale |
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| Author: | Dignified Rube [ Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
Gun Runner. |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
Dignified Rube wrote: Gun Runner. They didn't accept his entry because of the HPV outbreak at the Fairgrounds. |
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| Author: | spmack [ Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
Noble Bird. |
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| Author: | Spaulding [ Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
You guys ever meet up at an OTB? I'd like to do that. |
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| Author: | spmack [ Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
Spaulding wrote: You guys ever meet up at an OTB? I'd like to do that. If anyone ever wants to do Hawthorne, I'd be down. I especially like when they open the 2nd floor. |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
spmack wrote: Spaulding wrote: You guys ever meet up at an OTB? I'd like to do that. If anyone ever wants to do Hawthorne, I'd be down. I especially like when they open the 2nd floor. Hawthorne or Hodgkins OTB is fine |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
spmack wrote: Spaulding wrote: You guys ever meet up at an OTB? I'd like to do that. If anyone ever wants to do Hawthorne, I'd be down. I especially like when they open the 2nd floor. There are so MANY degenerates at Hawthorne. I love it though. I wish I knew more about betting the ponies. Oh, and Walt sucks. |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
ain't makin no straight bet on the Pegasus Chrome looks like he's coming in here better then ever retires champion. So pick 5's 4's & 3 8th Race:3/8 Pletcher 1st starter and Lookin for 8 2nd in only effort looks to improve of that try 9th Race: 10 Mongolian Sunday the Class 10th Race 4/7/12 Desiree Clary huge jockey change Aries knocking on the door Suffused the real danger 11th Race : Charming Kitten loves GP lawn Twilight Eclipse been facing better gains Ortiz ;oses 7lbs 12th Race : 12 Chrome! |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
spmack wrote: Spaulding wrote: You guys ever meet up at an OTB? I'd like to do that. If anyone ever wants to do Hawthorne, I'd be down. I especially like when they open the 2nd floor. I would definitely meet up at Hawthorne or the Foundry or the Saddle Room, even Oakbrook would be okay but I heard they made some changes since Churchill took it over. |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
Penn National, R7. Chloe's White Soxs. |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
Frank Coztansa wrote: spmack wrote: Spaulding wrote: You guys ever meet up at an OTB? I'd like to do that. If anyone ever wants to do Hawthorne, I'd be down. I especially like when they open the 2nd floor. There are so MANY degenerates at Hawthorne. I love it though. I wish I knew more about betting the ponies. Oh, and Walt sucks. 
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
I'm going to try to beat Arrogate out of second in the exacta. The only other horses I can see being capable are Neolithic, Shaman Ghost, and Keen Ice. |
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| Author: | Dignified Rube [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
I liked how Eragon ran in his last race. Hard to say how he will do against the toughest competition today from an outside post, but he you can count on him firing late. That will be my play today at 50-1 M/L. I think those odds will drop, but could go the other way because of Arrogate and California Chrome being the heavy favorites. Might take a look at Shaman Ghost, too. |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
1st $2 DD 2-6 ex $1 box 1/2 pick 3 1$ 2/3-6/3 %0 cent pick 5 2/3-6/3/11-13/4 |
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| Author: | newper [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
Half of this field is in the race only to keep Chrome running wide through the first turn. |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
newper wrote: Half of this field is in the race only to keep Chrome running wide through the first turn. I think he can have the lead in two steps if Victor wants to put him there. I'm not sure that's the best idea, as it might result in a repeat of the Breeder's Cup Classic. But Chrome is a front end horse. I wouldn't call him intractable, but he isn't really happy unless he has the lead either. Arrogate has problems of his own from the rail. Smith probably has to drive him hard out of the gate. Also, I've always thought Arrogate was a fragile horse with some physical issues. That's why he didn't make the Triple Crown. We'll see how long Baffert can keep him together. |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
newper wrote: Half of this field is in the race only to keep Chrome running wide through the first turn. Not a lot of speed to the inside of Chrome |
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| Author: | newper [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
Walt Williams Neck wrote: newper wrote: Half of this field is in the race only to keep Chrome running wide through the first turn. Not a lot of speed to the inside of Chrome But there's no way they take force Chrome to the lead right away, so they are going to have to deal with it. Maybe they do since the race is a little shorter though. It is a gamble. |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Arrogate has problems of his own from the rail. Smith probably has to drive him hard out of the gate. Also, I've always thought Arrogate was a fragile horse with some physical issues. That's why he didn't make the Triple Crown. We'll see how long Baffert can keep him together. And...the winner! I put $3 on CC...oops! |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
He just didn't have it at all. Now it seems dumb to have kept him training for this race. You knew he was gassed when Espinoza whacked him to try to keep Arrogate stuck down low and the horse didn't respond. Fuck. I had the right idea and went with the wrong one on top. |
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| Author: | newper [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
At least we avoid the rambling Perry Martin interview (hopefully) |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
Great horse |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
Walt Williams Neck wrote: Great horse Can't argue with that. I was annoyed when he won the Travers out of non-winners of 2, but I won't take anything away from the horse now. Baffert's juice can only take you so far. Smith had him shut down in the last sixteenth. |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Walt Williams Neck wrote: Great horse Can't argue with that. I was annoyed when he won the Travers out of non-winners of 2, but I won't take anything away from the horse now. Baffert's juice can only take you so far. Smith had him shut down in the last sixteenth. Let's see of the Sheik ups the ante for the Dubai World Cup? |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
W_Z wrote: Penn National, R7. Chloe's White Soxs. 
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| Author: | Dignified Rube [ Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pegasus World Cup Invitational |
CC was trying to tell everyone he couldn't run, and no one picked up on the signs. They should have at least checked him out. It would have been disappointing to scratch the horse, but that would have been the right decision by Art Sherman, who should have known better. Where was Sherman when the horse was being saddled that he could have seen for himself that something wasn't right? Too busy giving interviews and not doing his job. |
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