Do you really want to be putting money on Always Dreaming at 1-1 or an exacta on A.D. and Classic Empire at 4 or 5-1?

How do you guys calculate your trifecta box value/payout? I do not mean the cost for your bet. How do you balance your bet with a guess on what the payout would be.

It can be tough to estimate the "will pays" on a trifecta. In a race like this the pool will be so big and with enough dumb money that the value will likely be there with the chalk tri.

Yeah my horse for the 12/1 is Cloud Computing but I am just a dope. So in addition to a win bet I thought I would box him with Always/Classic.

Are the OTB's helping or hurting themselves demanding a $30-$40 cover just to get in the door for these Triple Crown Races?

Aren't they just handicapping potential lucrative in-house traffic, when they're making everyone who doesn't pay for a reservation stand outside for 30-45 mins to place a bet? (And then you have to hear some dope working for the OTB saying wrongly that Girvin's been scratched and Patch's odds have dropped to 12-1, as if we're all supposed to jump on Patch.)

It kind of pisses me off. It's supposed to be a free country.

Are the OTB's helping or hurting themselves demanding a $30-$40 cover just to get in the door for these Triple Crown Races?

Aren't they just handicapping potential lucrative in-house traffic, when they're making everyone who doesn't pay for a reservation stand outside for 30-45 mins to place a bet? (And then you have to hear some dope working for the OTB saying wrongly that Girvin's been scratched and Patch's odds have dropped to 12-1, as if we're all supposed to jump on Patch.)

It kind of pisses me off. It's supposed to be a free country.

What OTB does that? I've never paid a cover at an OTB in my life. Sometimes they try to get a buck for the Cook County tax from you. I'm sure Arlington charges a fat fee to enter the track. I wouldn't pay that either. But Arlington probably has the lowest per cap in the business. I guess they have to make their money somehow.

https://www.twinspires.com/

No wait pantsless wagering. Free PPs.

Broadcast trackfeed video to the tv via chromecast (which I prefer over the TVG cable channels). In the back yard on nice days.

Rube what are you talking about? Hawthorne only charges $2 to get in (I think free if its before 10am or after 8 or 9pm), as well as the OTB on 111th/Doty.

And JORR is right, the OTB on top of Ditka's by Arlington was free the times I would go last year.

What OTB does that? I've never paid a cover at an OTB in my life. Sometimes they try to get a buck for the Cook County tax from you. I'm sure Arlington charges a fat fee to enter the track. I wouldn't pay that either. But Arlington probably has the lowest per cap in the business. I guess they have to make their money somehow.

I have an online account. But if Twinspires and ExpressBet are anything like online trading companies, they make you wait two weeks before you can withdraw, while they earn interest on your money. There's no reason for them to keep your money after your deposit has cleared.

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Rube if you're in that area just go to Crazypour on North. Villa Park i think it is. No cover at all, and i am also surprised any OTB would charge anything to get in the door. They take plenty of money from wagers.

well here's my pick 6


Race 8
Mo Maverick
9 AP Indian/ Whitmore
10th Elysea's World
11th Hedge Fund
12th Ring Weekend/World Approval/Projected
13th Always Dreaming/Classic Empire

that didn't last long. i had a few bucks on Mo to win and Adonis to WPS. creed really bottomed out at the end.

i hope one of these hits...