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 Post subject: Breeders' Cup 2022
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Friday (5 races) and Saturday (9) a collection of the best horses trainers and jocks, converge in Lexington at Keeneland Race Course...
The Classic, Race 11 on sat. features a horse that's getting some crazy praise-Flightline...can the heavy, heavy favorite be beat? I wouldn't rule it out...

I'm not as well versed in horses coming from overseas. I'm hoping Dr. Ken will oblige us with his notes on the horses coming from Mongolia or wherever it is that he watches overnight racing


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Call me crazy, but I think Flightline is gonna get beat. Life Is Good absolutely must have the lead and Flightline is gonna be close. When he moves to him the middle fractions are going to be hot and this time there are horses that can stay close enough and finish. I'm looking at Taiba, Epicenter, and maybe even Olympiad.

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 Post subject: Re: Breeders' Cup 2022
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Friday Race 6 JUVENILE TURF SPRINT…not a lot to go on here, only once has this BC race been run here at Keeneland…trainer Ward has won the last three versions and he saddles the 2-Love Reigns (and the AE 14, likely scratched)…she won at first asking on this very course…

The 3-Private Creed is worth a look having won here at Keeneland last month, Asmussen/Rosario had a nice fall meet here…keep in mind that regardless of horse, the 3, 4 and 5 posts on this course for turf sprints have historically had an amazing ROI…

The 11-Speed Boat Beach holds the highest speed marks and is undefeated in two starts, but west coast horses can struggle here at Keeneland…

The 12-Platinum Queen is getting hammered overseas and will get a very nice ride from English jock Hollie Doyle

Friday Race 7 JUVENILE FILLIES…Think this has a boatload of early speed…this is for babies, two years old, and only 3 of these have won from this distance, the 3-And Tell Me Nolies, the 5-Wonder Wheel and the 8-Atomically

The 10-Chocolate Gelato won the G1 race last month in New York The Frizette which is a race that has had an astonishing effect on this division…runners coming out of that race have won 4 of the last 5 versions of this race and 14 overall…

Favorites in this race have historically done fairly well in this BC division (19 out of 38 races)

Really loved the last race for the 8-Atomically and I think he’ll be primed and ready here


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Call me crazy, but I think Flightline is gonna get beat. Life Is Good absolutely must have the lead and Flightline is gonna be close. When he moves to him the middle fractions are going to be hot and this time there are horses that can stay close enough and finish. I'm looking at Taiba, Epicenter, and maybe even Olympiad.


I’ve been laughed at already for merely suggesting it on Discord.

Joke’s on them when Rich Strike beats them again! lol


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Call me crazy, but I think Flightline is gonna get beat. Life Is Good absolutely must have the lead and Flightline is gonna be close. When he moves to him the middle fractions are going to be hot and this time there are horses that can stay close enough and finish. I'm looking at Taiba, Epicenter, and maybe even Olympiad.


crazy...there I said it

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Friday Race 8 JUVENILE FILLIES TURF…a pace-less affair becomes quite intriguing…no one will want the lead, but there will be too much traffic in the stretch with all these late runners…might set up nicely for the 9-Delight or the 6-Be Your Best, both of which should be pushed up front by their riders…the 4-Free Look might get the best ride in what should be a Jockey’s race with Prat in the irons. No California horses ever in the exacta and Euro’s have only won twice in 14 years in this event (although Ireland’s Meditate looks quite good)

Friday Race 9 JUVENILE
Looks like a two-horse race between 3-Cave Rock and 4-Forte…staying away on this, not sure what to do with the Horizontal picks

Friday Race 10 JUVENILE TURF
Favorites have only won this race 13%, go shopping...I LOVE the 13-Major Dude and don’t understand why the connections waited 3 races to put him in the grass (G2 event that he pounded)…huge value anywhere near the morning line of 10/1…Euro’s have won 10 of the 15 runnings of this and while the 4-Silver Knot may be the post time favorite, he and the 1 from Japan are the only invaders.


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 Post subject: Re: Breeders' Cup 2022
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6th- if you like Love Reigns you gotta bet Dramatised at 15-1
7th-Tell Me No Lies 8-1 on a 3 race win streak
8th -Last Call the Frankie Dismount
9th-Caave Rock too fast
10th-I'm Very Busy closing like a Frieght Train


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 Post subject: Re: Breeders' Cup 2022
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If Order of Australia, Secret Oath, or Taiba win, I'm probably gonna have a huge weekend.

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 Post subject: Re: Breeders' Cup 2022
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Good luck to all this weekend and enjoy!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Breeders' Cup 2022
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Early P5 pool is over 1 million :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Breeders' Cup 2022
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Dead Heat in the 1st race, nice start...the co winner, 6-B Dawk paid more for Place than Win...ain't never seen that


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Dead Heat in the 1st race, nice start...the co winner, 6-B Dawk paid more for Place than Win...ain't never seen that
I've seen it it often and it sucks

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Anyone going against Cave Rock. See some online people I follow talking up Forte, I don't see it.


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whitesoxfanfrank wrote:
Anyone going against Cave Rock. See some online people I follow talking up Forte, I don't see it.


He's a likely single for me horizontally and no wager within that race


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Race 3 lots of value for the 1-Call Me Fast...horse for the course, on a course that's a horse for the course course..of course $15 Win Show (He's paying the same to come in third as second)


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jock seemed too timid to take him up the rail, but still paid


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 Post subject: Re: Breeders' Cup 2022
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Race 4 making a big swing with the 2-Giant Mischief...daddy, Into Mischief was a beast here at Keeneland...this horses maiden breaker on debut was outstanding, and Cox next out for Indy debut winners-36%///$40 Win on 2 and $20 Place


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OscarTangoEcho wrote:
Race 4 making a big swing with the 2-Giant Mischief...daddy, Into Mischief was a beast here at Keeneland...this horses maiden breaker on debut was outstanding, and Cox next out for Indy debut winners-36%///$40 Win on 2 and $20 Place

Damn, great call OTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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OscarTangoEcho wrote:
Race 4 making a big swing with the 2-Giant Mischief...daddy, Into Mischief was a beast here at Keeneland...this horses maiden breaker on debut was outstanding, and Cox next out for Indy debut winners-36%///$40 Win on 2 and $20 Place


Nice call. I tailed you on that one.


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 Post subject: Re: Breeders' Cup 2022
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No real thoughts on this next race which is a marathon...only one horse has gone this distance (the 3)...based on pedigree for the distance making a small $4 WPS wager on the 7-Kazan at 28/1


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I'd think twice about your dirt closers today


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 Post subject: Re: Breeders' Cup 2022
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Pick 5

2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 12
5, 7, 8, 10
4, 9, 10
3
4, 8, 13

for $108


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6th- if you like Love Reigns you gotta bet Dramatised at 15-1

I Do Quite a bit...

7th-Tell Me No Lies 8-1 on a 3 race win streak

Last one off my ticket...

8th -Last Call the Frankie Dismount

Don't see it...

9th-Caave Rock too fast

we agree

10th-I'm Very Busy closing like a Frieght Train


...had his chances, against


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 Post subject: Re: Breeders' Cup 2022
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Race 6-My reminder about Keeneland Turf Sprints with large fields...the 3,4 and 5 posts, regardless of horse or odds has a huge ROI...with that in mind

Trifecta

2, 3, 4
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 11, 12
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 11, 12

$63


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I'd think twice about your dirt closers today



I think the track is playing pretty fair. It's tough to come from deep at Keeneland. It's tough to come from deep anywhere. If you're betting a horse coming from the back you better get paid.

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OscarTangoEcho wrote:
Race 6-My reminder about Keeneland Turf Sprints with large fields...the 3,4 and 5 posts, regardless of horse or odds has a huge ROI...with that in mind


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Just sayin...

although woudl've been more impressive if i didn't leave him off the top of my trifecta :lol:

Oh well moving on with the Pick 5


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going against the favorite, Chop Chop here intra-race (still have him in P5)

trifecta
3, 5, 8, 10
2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 14
3, 5, 8, 10

$36


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https://twitter.com/JeffreyBenson12/sta ... Lt20dDnD-g

Curious if anybody would bet these?


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OscarTangoEcho wrote:
Friday Race 8 JUVENILE FILLIES TURF…a pace-less affair becomes quite intriguing…no one will want the lead, but there will be too much traffic in the stretch with all these late runners…might set up nicely for the 9-Delight or the 6-Be Your Best, both of which should be pushed up front by their riders…the 4-Free Look might get the best ride in what should be a Jockey’s race with Prat in the irons. No California horses ever in the exacta and Euro’s have only won twice in 14 years in this event (although Ireland’s Meditate looks quite good)


$10 Win/Show on the 4,9,10 and 12...alive to the 4, 9 and 10 in the P5


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