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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:58 am 
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Yesterday was fucked. Nothing made sense. It was like Eddie Mush in reverse.


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:58 pm 
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I don't think you can dismiss Fierceness. He's an erratic horse, on one race and off the next. He was lights-out in the BC Juvenile. If you look back to the Holy Bull, where he came in 3rd, there was some bumping with Hades down the stretch. It looked to me like Hades veered out into Fierceness' lane, and the impact could have hurt or shook Fierceness that he finished only 3rd. Stewards were asleep and should have DQd Hades for the collision.

Other than that, Sierra Leonne is a good pick, even with the twenty-horse field in the Derby. Sierra Leone will be picking off tired horses left and right down the stretch at Churchill.

The Japanese horse that won the Saudi Cup, Forever Young, seems decent. He's got good late-kick.

We'll see how good Dornoch is this weekend in the FOY.


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:29 pm 
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Dornoch is my current horse to win the Derby...I'll be boxing him with Victory Avenue who has been working lights out in the morning to prep for this

Fierceness was a last addition to my BC Friday Pick 5 (thought I was going to single Muth, glad I didn't) that won big for me...curious to see how he develops on the trail


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:12 am 
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I do not like Dornoch. But I have to get over it. The Remsen was a great race. I know I have an emotional bias against him.

My Derby favorite right now is Liberal Arts. Trained by Chicago guy, Robbie Medina. I plan to make a killing with him in the Ark Derby.

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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:52 am 
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Locked has speed and class. He should be the favorite over Dornoch, whose final speed fig. in the Remsen was on the weak side.

This is a big step-up for Speak Easy, but the horse looks talented to me. He has long, easy strides and eats up the track. He's has the advantages of having run on this track once before, albeit at 7f, and Irad in the saddle.

I think taking an ex. with Locked, Speak Easy and Dornoch is a safe bet. The winner is probably between Locked and Speak Easy.


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:24 am 
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I do not like Dornoch. But I have to get over it. The Remsen was a great race. I know I have an emotional bias against him.

My Derby favorite right now is Liberal Arts. Trained by Chicago guy, Robbie Medina. I plan to make a killing with him in the Ark Derby.


Liberal Arts? Sounds like a Dem-o-rat!


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:07 pm 
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Mid Pick 5 Starting Race 5
5, 6, 9, 10, 11 / 1, 5 / 1, 9, 10 / 1, 3, 7 / 2, 3

Late Pick 5 Starting Race 10
5, 10 / 3, 4, 5, 8 / 2, 3, 5, 6 / 3, 6, 8 / 1, 5

Kick some Ass today fellas


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:56 pm 
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Hit #11 Pounce to win at 9-1 in the 8th.


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 3:11 pm 
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Nice hit!


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 3:18 pm 
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Race 13 Huge price on Kelsey Danner's horse, the 8-Mohawk Trail...4/5 ITM at this distance, coming out of the G3 Music City where she was third


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 4:20 pm 
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6th at Oaklawn with Bertie's Cause.

Then I miss a tri-fecta in the 7th at OP by a head with the two beating the four for 2nd. Had it 3-4-2. and it was 3-2-4.

Ughhh.

Redeemed a little with Super Chow in the TomFool at Aqueduct.


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:13 pm 
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What a disaster in the FOY.


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
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OscarTangoEcho wrote:
Late Pick 5 Starting Race 10
5, 10 / 3, 4, 5, 8 / 2, 3, 5, 6 / 3, 6, 8 / 1, 5


meh

was with the grandkids today...why all the scratches?


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
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I'm still not impressed with Dornoch. He was all out to beat a mediocre field. The Clement horse that won the Gothan might be a player.

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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:00 pm 
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San Felipe was a non factor going forward

SA Late Pick 5 alive to
1,2,4,5/5,6,8,11/4,6,8,11


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:24 am 
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Tampa Bay Derby...Fast and Firm…nice card with a couple key scratches but big fields, and lots of losing tickets

Don’t underestimate the O’s. local jocks Camacho, Centino and Gallardo, especially Sammy Camacho

Race 9 Great race…2-Marketsegmentation scratched, 1-Fluffy Socks 8-Star Fortress, and the 7-Elusive Princess are all quality horses…Tampa is unique in that their turf routes go around three turns…the 7 should get a pace advantage…both the 1 and the 8 will be flying late, despite the slow fractions
7-2--1-8

Race10…Florida Oaks…3-Phoaroahs Wine would’ve been a nice price after her last race but scratched…5-Waskesiu should have a slight pace advantage, trainer Mott wins at a rate of 20% in Graded Stakes…6-Austere is trained by Walsh who will have this horse ready…10 Weigh the Risks and 11-Dynamic Pricing will be ridden by the Yahoo Brothers so who knows how that will impact the race…both of those, trained by Brown, have won at this distance
6-5-11-12


Race 11-TB Derby 5-Domestic Product no value. Might win…3-Give Me Liberty ran better than it looks at Oaklawn 2-Everdoit will be on the engine and 7-No More Time will get a nice pressing trip…1-Heartened has won on this track, and this is a good course for a horse for the course, of course of course
7-1-5

light Pick 5 starting in Race 2
1, 8 / 1, 10, 11 / 3, 6, 11, 12 / 4, 6, 12 / 3


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 11:17 am 
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I'm very interested in Weaver's maiden in the Tampa Bay Derby.

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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:28 pm 
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I like Domestic Product in the TB Derby and think that Grand Mo The First might surprise.


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
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Next Race, 7 Here's a great chance for Camacho aboard the 8-Lord Nelson...looking for his 4th straight win, currently 12-1...Win Place bet


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
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Fucking CAW's 12-1 down to 7/2...can't bet these intra race wagers


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
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Next Race, 7 Here's a great chance for Camacho aboard the 8-Lord Nelson...looking for his 4th straight win, currently 12-1...Win Place bet


Thank you :)

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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:35 pm 
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race 8 Value on the 3 Dream Concert Win Place


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
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Tote Boards frozen in multiple locations including Gulfstream, SA and Tampa....kinda fucked


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:08 pm 
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Gotta be kidding me with the tote outage.

Couldn't place any bets and would have had the winner and tri.

They need a backup system. Shouldn't have run the race with the tote board down.


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
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What a disaster.

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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
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Running the race without wagering 100% the right thing to do


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:48 pm 
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Agreed...but goodness, this industry can't get out of its own fucking way...should be refunding everyone

alive to the late P5 at SA to
3, 5, 6, 7 / 2, 3, 6 / 2, 4, 10


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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
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What happened? My secret horseracing facebook group exploded with notifications containing all kinds of wailing and gnashing of teeth but I didn't have time to delve in to it.

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 Post subject: Re: Road to the Derby
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Tampa Bay Downs track announcer Jason Beem said on the public address system that the tote holdup was caused by an outage that affected other tracks on the East Coast. Tampa Bay Downs is a wagering partner with 1/ST Technology's AmTote.

1/ST Racing's Gulfstream Park was among the other tracks that also experienced some tote delays, as did sister track Santa Anita Park. The latter saw its Saturday feature race, the B. Wayne Hughes Beholder Mile Stakes (G1), go off 23 minutes past its scheduled post time after a tote delay in late afternoon.


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Aidan Butler, president of 1/ST, did not return a telephone call requesting an interview, saying he was traveling from Tampa Bay Downs, but texted a short statement. He said 1/ST would have a more detailed statement Sunday and speak with BloodHorse then when he has more information.

"I have initiated a full-scale investigation into the loss of connectivity between AmTote and certain racetracks," he wrote. "I do not have the final results as of yet, but it appears to be a wider-spread communication outage that took down both the primary and backup communications. This outage affected multiple telecom/internet service providers and was much broader than the racing industry."


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