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CFR 018 - Dude, Where's My Car Keys
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Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CFR 018 - Dude, Where's My Car Keys
Dyslexic saN is DAS!
Author:  Darkside [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CFR 018 - Dude, Where's My Car Keys
I guess where I'm foggy is why its doxxing when it's public information intended to be available to the communities in which this person lives and participates. The government WANTS this information easily accessible and available for anyone who comes into contact with the subject.
Author:  formerlyknownas [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:54 pm ]
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beni hanna wrote:
formerlyknownas wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Here's the definition:

dox
däks/
verbinformal
gerund or present participle: doxxing
search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the Internet, typically with malicious intent.

I taught a lower-level class that was largely about doxxing and it does have its moral uses.


Image

:lol: Sorry, had to read Charlotte's Web. Anyway: Civil disobedience (if you dox someone despite knowing it's a pretty shitty thing to do) and self-defense. Only problem is that some people (SJWs, wacko Christian fundamentalists, and everyone in between) interpret self-defense differently.

Otherwise, it's informing. We don't need that kind of society. There are alternatives.
Author:  SpiralStairs [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:54 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Chus wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Chus wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Here's the definition:

dox
däks/
verbinformal
gerund or present participle: doxxing
search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the Internet, typically with malicious intent.


So SJWplayer is the doxxer. Glad that is settled.


Sending other people the identifying information via PM is literally doxxing. Come on, man.


Sending a PRIVATE MESSAGE is not publishing on the internet.


Quote:

Definition of publish
transitive verb
1
a : to make generally known
b : to make public announcement of
2
a : to disseminate to the public


You published identifying information about someone via the Internet, dude. You doxxed him.


If he wanted to make generally known he would have posted this:
Quote:
gen·er·al·ly
ˈjen(ə)rəlē/Submit
adverb
1.
in most cases; usually.
"the term of a lease is generally 99 years"
synonyms: normally, in general, as a rule, by and large, more often than not, almost always, mainly, mostly, for the most part, predominantly, on the whole; More
2.
in general terms; without regard to particulars or exceptions.
"a decade when France was moving generally to the left"
synonyms: overall, in general terms, generally speaking, all in all, broadly, on average, basically, effectively
"popular opinion veers generally to the left"


I promise I'm done now.
Author:  Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:55 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Told you, Chus, you would have been better off admitting you doxxed him and just arguing about your reasoning for doing so rather than arguing whether you actually did it.

This is a bad look.


This.

Let's take a step back, be honest with ourselves, and understand exactly what's going on. Call it what it is, move on.
Author:  Chus [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:55 pm ]
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
All Chus did was the research and the distribution. How was he to know a gigantic bombshell shared with several members of the board would somehow wind up on the board??


It took all of four minutes. I received a PM from somebody about this situation, and I did a little digging. Of course, I won't be outing the person who sent me the PM.
Author:  Darkside [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:56 pm ]
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Told you, Chus, you would have been better off admitting you doxxed him and just arguing about your reasoning for doing so rather than arguing whether you actually did it.

This is a bad look.


This.

Let's take a step back, be honest with ourselves, and understand exactly what's going on. Call it what it is, move on.

What you really mean is we need to agree with you then move on.
Author:  Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:58 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Told you, Chus, you would have been better off admitting you doxxed him and just arguing about your reasoning for doing so rather than arguing whether you actually did it.

This is a bad look.


This.

Let's take a step back, be honest with ourselves, and understand exactly what's going on. Call it what it is, move on.

What you really mean is we need to agree with you then move on.


:lol:

Most of you haven't agreed with me in years. Why would I expect that now?

Rather, after having read through most of this nonsense, it's pretty clear the motives of the people involved in making this stuff public.
Author:  Chus [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:59 pm ]
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Chus wrote:

Sending a PRIVATE MESSAGE is not publishing on the internet.


Chus...


Sending a private message or email is the same thing as printing something in the New York Times?
Author:  Chus [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:00 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Told you, Chus, you would have been better off admitting you doxxed him and just arguing about your reasoning for doing so rather than arguing whether you actually did it.

This is a bad look.


Yeah, you told me. Some people agree with you, and some agree with me. And the world keeps spinning.
Author:  Peoria Matt [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:02 pm ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Dyslexic saN is DAS!


:lol:
Author:  Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CFR 018 - Dude, Where's My Car Keys
Chus wrote:
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Chus wrote:

Sending a PRIVATE MESSAGE is not publishing on the internet.


Chus...


Sending a private message or email is the same thing as printing something in the New York Times?


I've never understood some of the connections people on this board make in questioning retorts. I mean, you may have well said:

"Sending a private message or email is the same thing as making a homemade deep dish pizza?"

Come on man.
Author:  Darkside [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:03 pm ]
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That made no sense.
Author:  SpiralStairs [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CFR 018 - Dude, Where's My Car Keys
Chus wrote:
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Chus wrote:

Sending a PRIVATE MESSAGE is not publishing on the internet.


Chus...


Sending a private message or email is the same thing as printing something in the New York Times?


CFMB is the Times and you passed a lead to a reporter. It is what it is.
Author:  Chus [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:04 pm ]
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Chus wrote:
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Chus wrote:

Sending a PRIVATE MESSAGE is not publishing on the internet.


Chus...


Sending a private message or email is the same thing as printing something in the New York Times?


I've never understood some of the connections people on this board make in questioning retorts. I mean, you may have well said:

"Sending a private message or email is the same thing as making a homemade deep dish pizza?"

Come on man.


Because the definition said PUBLISH. What did I publish? I shared some info privately.
Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:04 pm ]
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So did Doc know you were the doxxing investigator when you recorded or was he oblivious as you were both painstakingly tiptoeing around the issue?
Author:  Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:04 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
That made no sense.


Exactly.
Author:  Chus [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:05 pm ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:
Chus wrote:
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Chus wrote:

Sending a PRIVATE MESSAGE is not publishing on the internet.


Chus...


Sending a private message or email is the same thing as printing something in the New York Times?


CFMB is the Times and you passed a lead to a reporter. It is what it is.


I shared something with some pals who I thought might get a kick out of it.
Author:  Nas [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:05 pm ]
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Peoria Matt wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Dyslexic saN is DAS!


:lol:


He's a very Nasty man.
Author:  Chus [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:05 pm ]
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
So did Doc know you were the doxxing investigator when you recorded or was he oblivious as you were both painstakingly tiptoeing around the issue?


Please don't drag Dr. Ken into this. He has nothing to do with any of it. Point your guns at me.
Author:  Darkside [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:06 pm ]
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Yeah... I mean the media is irrelevant. If he told someone over the phone or via text it's a private conversation, as is a private message. It was not intended for wider audience. Someone else made it public.
Author:  Chus [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CFR 018 - Dude, Where's My Car Keys
Darkside wrote:
Yeah... I mean the media is irrelevant. If he told someone over the phone or via text it's a private conversation, as is a private message. It was not intended for wider audience. Someone else made it public.


The State of Florida.
Author:  Darkside [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:06 pm ]
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Darkside wrote:
That made no sense.


Exactly.

You intended to make no sense? Why?
Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:07 pm ]
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Chus wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Told you, Chus, you would have been better off admitting you doxxed him and just arguing about your reasoning for doing so rather than arguing whether you actually did it.

This is a bad look.


Yeah, you told me. Some people agree with you, and some agree with me. And the world keeps spinning.


I don't think anyone has agreed that what you did was not in keeping with the definition of doxxing.
Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:08 pm ]
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Chus wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Chus wrote:
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Chus wrote:

Sending a PRIVATE MESSAGE is not publishing on the internet.


Chus...


Sending a private message or email is the same thing as printing something in the New York Times?


CFMB is the Times and you passed a lead to a reporter. It is what it is.


I shared something with some pals who I thought might get a kick out of it.


You doxxed him for fun. Yeah we get it, dude, the question now is why you're bragging about it.
Author:  Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:09 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Darkside wrote:
That made no sense.


Exactly.

You intended to make no sense? Why?


Because the leap in comparison Chus made also made no sense.

It's pretty safe to assume that is anything is communicated over the internet, it's "published" and probably at risk for being circulated. So, no, it probably won't make the New York Times, but that's not even close to the point.
Author:  Chus [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CFR 018 - Dude, Where's My Car Keys
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Chus wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Told you, Chus, you would have been better off admitting you doxxed him and just arguing about your reasoning for doing so rather than arguing whether you actually did it.

This is a bad look.


Yeah, you told me. Some people agree with you, and some agree with me. And the world keeps spinning.


I don't think anyone has agreed that what you did was not in keeping with the definition of doxxing.


That's not accurate.

How many more times do we need to go back and forth on this? Your position is clear.
Author:  beni hanna [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:10 pm ]
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This place needs one thing more than ever to keep track of all this nonsense. What is place needs is someone ...Keeping Score...
Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:10 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
Yeah... I mean the media is irrelevant. If he told someone over the phone or via text it's a private conversation, as is a private message. It was not intended for wider audience. Someone else made it public.


I fail to see how multiple people isn't "a wider audience". If I sent a PRIVATE MESSAGE to everyone on the planet with your dick size, would I have published it?
Author:  Chus [ Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:10 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Chus wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Chus wrote:
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Chus wrote:

Sending a PRIVATE MESSAGE is not publishing on the internet.


Chus...


Sending a private message or email is the same thing as printing something in the New York Times?


CFMB is the Times and you passed a lead to a reporter. It is what it is.


I shared something with some pals who I thought might get a kick out of it.


You doxxed him for fun. Yeah we get it, dude, the question now is why you're bragging about it.


I'm not bragging about anything.
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