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Yeah...I need this thread to bitch about how I don't golf enough and then to bitch about how bad I suck when I do finally get out. :lol: :lol: Don't ruin this for me!!

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Yeah...I need this thread to bitch about how I don't golf enough and then to bitch about how bad I suck when I do finally get out. :lol: :lol: Don't ruin this for me!!



Fuck yeah.. I got the phone call to come back for this charity thing. I need to get to the range once before that and then complain why I slice the ball all damn day.


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I still need to get a new (to me anyway) driver before the season ramps up.

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Buying clubs never seems worth it to me. Maybe when I'm retired and can golf when I want :lol:

I'll keep my shitty clubs

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I will be going into my sixth season using the same hand-me-down Cleveland Irons. I believe it is the indian, and not the arrow that leads to my scores. There might be one shot every few rounds that I don't 'have a club for.' A new driver will be the 4th new club I have purchased since 2015.

If I played as much as TBone and Furious, or was as good as they are, I would spend the money and get fitted for clubs.

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I still need to get a new (to me anyway) driver before the season ramps up.


I got a used Callaway FT-9 driver for $50 on eBay.

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Bought a new but last year's Cobra F6 Driver. 10.5 degree loft. Replaced my old Cobra driver. Got it on super sale at PGA Superstore in Schaumburg.

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Chus wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
I still need to get a new (to me anyway) driver before the season ramps up.


I got a used Callaway FT-9 driver for $50 on eBay.


Dudes getting rid of great stuff on eBay after a year or two is a joy in life.

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Chus wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
I still need to get a new (to me anyway) driver before the season ramps up.


I got a used Callaway FT-9 driver for $50 on eBay.


Dudes getting rid of great stuff on eBay after a year or two is a joy in life.

New gear that manufacturers unload through eBay is where its at. Or callawaypreowned.com.

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Furious Styles wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Chus wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
I still need to get a new (to me anyway) driver before the season ramps up.


I got a used Callaway FT-9 driver for $50 on eBay.


Dudes getting rid of great stuff on eBay after a year or two is a joy in life.

New gear that manufacturers unload through eBay is where its at. Or callawaypreowned.com.


The more deals the better.

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Quite frankly, I think JLN owes me an apology. That first page is peppered with answers, explanations and useful information from me.

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Furious Styles wrote:
Quite frankly, I think JLN owes me an apology. That first page is peppered with answers, explanations and useful information from me.


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[Well above 120 mph with a hybrid is only happening in fantasyland.


I don't owe you shit.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:59 pm 
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https://blog.trackmangolf.com/trackman- ... our-stats/

These are stats from the golfers on the PGA Tour. Juice is claiming that he generates a higher club head speed than the average professional golfer. Fantasyland indeed.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:06 pm 
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Chus wrote:
https://blog.trackmangolf.com/trackman-average-tour-stats/

These are stats from the golfers on the PGA Tour. Juice is claiming that he generates a higher club head speed than the average professional golfer. Fantasyland indeed.

Honey, not vinegar.


So you're saying I'm lying about the output of the system, when the reliability of the system is what I asked about when I brought it up?

Thanks for proving your own condescension.
Will these apologies from you two be via PM or what?


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Chus wrote:
https://blog.trackmangolf.com/trackman-average-tour-stats/

These are stats from the golfers on the PGA Tour. Juice is claiming that he generates a higher club head speed than the average professional golfer. Fantasyland indeed.

Honey, not vinegar.


So you're saying I'm lying about the output of the system, when the reliability of the system is what I asked about when I brought it up?

Thanks for proving your own condescension.
Will these apologies from you two be via PM or what?


I'm saying that your claims are bullshit, because they are.

If anybody needs to apologize, it's you to Furious Styles.

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Chus wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Chus wrote:
https://blog.trackmangolf.com/trackman-average-tour-stats/

These are stats from the golfers on the PGA Tour. Juice is claiming that he generates a higher club head speed than the average professional golfer. Fantasyland indeed.

Honey, not vinegar.


So you're saying I'm lying about the output of the system, when the reliability of the system is what I asked about when I brought it up?

Thanks for proving your own condescension.
Will these apologies from you two be via PM or what?


I'm saying that your claims are bullshit, because they are.

If anybody needs to apologize, it's you to Furious Styles.


So you're calling me a liar. That the system didn't really say that. Thanks for perfectly illustrating your condescension, I'll keep an eye out for that apology!


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Chus wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Chus wrote:
https://blog.trackmangolf.com/trackman-average-tour-stats/

These are stats from the golfers on the PGA Tour. Juice is claiming that he generates a higher club head speed than the average professional golfer. Fantasyland indeed.

Honey, not vinegar.


So you're saying I'm lying about the output of the system, when the reliability of the system is what I asked about when I brought it up?

Thanks for proving your own condescension.
Will these apologies from you two be via PM or what?


I'm saying that your claims are bullshit, because they are.

If anybody needs to apologize, it's you to Furious Styles.


So you're calling me a liar. That the system didn't really say that. Thanks for perfectly illustrating your condescension, I'll keep an eye out for that apology!


You want me to apologize for not believing that you, a guy who says he hasn't played in eight years, generates far more club head speed with a hybrid than the average professional golfer does with a driver? :lol:

I'm sorry for not believing that you can defy the laws of physics.

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Chus wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Chus wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Chus wrote:
https://blog.trackmangolf.com/trackman-average-tour-stats/

These are stats from the golfers on the PGA Tour. Juice is claiming that he generates a higher club head speed than the average professional golfer. Fantasyland indeed.

Honey, not vinegar.


So you're saying I'm lying about the output of the system, when the reliability of the system is what I asked about when I brought it up?

Thanks for proving your own condescension.
Will these apologies from you two be via PM or what?


I'm saying that your claims are bullshit, because they are.

If anybody needs to apologize, it's you to Furious Styles.


So you're calling me a liar. That the system didn't really say that. Thanks for perfectly illustrating your condescension, I'll keep an eye out for that apology!


You want me to apologize for not believing that you generate far more club head speed with a hybrid than the average professional golfer does with a driver? :lol:


No, because you're demanding an apology for being a "condescending know-it-all", when you in fact have been condescending in your disbelief, not that I actually swing that hard, but that the light-based system computed such a figure over and over.


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You fucking baby. Don't blame others for your spurious swing speed claims. Own that shit.

Nobody seems to be familiar with the technology you are using. Why are you fixated on it?

You would be better served by going back and reading my helpful posts on the first page. I can quote them for emphasis if you would like.

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I'm not demanding anything. But, if anybody owes an apology, it's you to Furious Styles. I'm not being condescending because I don't believe something that Did. Not. Happen. Either you read the machine incorrectly, or it was malfunctioning. There is no way you generated club head speed faster than the average pro. T-Bone can hit the ball a country mile, but he wouldn't make a claim like that.

I swing pretty hard. The last time I was on one of those machines, my driver club head speed was about 90-95 when I could control it. The hybrids would be much lower, as the laws of physics dictate. Think about that for a minute before you reply in a condescending fashion.

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You fucking baby.


CONDESCENDING KNOW IT ALL. CONDESCENDING KNOW IT ALL.

Look, I know I don't swing that hard, I even offered up a theory on what would cause the reading to be inaccurate. I just don't think you should be crying about condescension when you called me a liar for repeating what the system said, no matter how loony it was.

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Furious Styles wrote:
TaylorMade releases a new driver every two weeks. Prices won't go up.
Helpful.

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Club Champion is offering 50% off full bag  and 33% off all individual fittings through end of January. You can basically hit every head/shaft combo.
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I know nothing about that simulator, but you should try to see spin rate and launch angle at the very least in order to optimize the driver/settings
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There is typically no medium flex. Keep in mind flex is a relative term - shafts can play weak to flex, stiff to flex or anywhere in between.  What shaft do you have in the R15? It's common for Taylormade stock shafts to play weak to flex.  There are also "made for" versions of aftermarket shafts that are typically watered-down versions of the original. I generally play regular flex in my clubs (better shafts that play true to flex), but would probably be fit into stiff for stock shafts.

Also, Taylormade is known for horrible manufacturing tolerances. Your 12* driver could actually be anywhere from 10-14*. Same with the shaft specs. That is why you should get fitted, especially at higher swing speeds. I experimented last season with a "made for" Fubuki shaft in a newer Callaway driver and it felt "loose" compared to the real- deal Fubuki.  My dispersion was clearly much better.

If the current R15 shaft isn't a good fit, there are tons of inexpensive aftermarket shafts w/the appropriate adapter on eBay.

Very helpful.

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Also JLN, flex is just one factor when it comes to shafts. Weight, length and bend profile are just as important, if not more, than flex.

Most helpful.

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Furious Styles wrote:
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TaylorMade releases a new driver every two weeks. Prices won't go up.
Helpful.

Furious Styles wrote:
Club Champion is offering 50% off full bag  and 33% off all individual fittings through end of January. You can basically hit every head/shaft combo.
Helpful.

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I know nothing about that simulator, but you should try to see spin rate and launch angle at the very least in order to optimize the driver/settings
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Furious Styles wrote:
There is typically no medium flex. Keep in mind flex is a relative term - shafts can play weak to flex, stiff to flex or anywhere in between.  What shaft do you have in the R15? It's common for Taylormade stock shafts to play weak to flex.  There are also "made for" versions of aftermarket shafts that are typically watered-down versions of the original. I generally play regular flex in my clubs (better shafts that play true to flex), but would probably be fit into stiff for stock shafts.

Also, Taylormade is known for horrible manufacturing tolerances. Your 12* driver could actually be anywhere from 10-14*. Same with the shaft specs. That is why you should get fitted, especially at higher swing speeds. I experimented last season with a "made for" Fubuki shaft in a newer Callaway driver and it felt "loose" compared to the real- deal Fubuki.  My dispersion was clearly much better.

If the current R15 shaft isn't a good fit, there are tons of inexpensive aftermarket shafts w/the appropriate adapter on eBay.

Very helpful.

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Also JLN, flex is just one factor when it comes to shafts. Weight, length and bend profile are just as important, if not more, than flex.

Most helpful.


I don't know. It looks to me like Juice won this, you condescending asshole.

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Ball speed is roughly 1.5 times the speed of the club. A 120mph swing would generate 180mph ball speed. When I played with my
buddy 3 weeks ago that is how fast he was hitting his driver, but again this is a guy that swings harder than anyone I have ever seen.
The machine we used didn't show club head speed, just ball speed. When I was letting it go as hard as I could I was topping out at 165
which is 110 mph. I guarantee there is a lot of variance in some of these machines. The one we use is repped by Jason Day and Spieth
and it is pretty nice, although I wasn't really agreeing with some of the numbers I was seeing. The carry distance on some of the irons
was wildly all over the place and we were playing about one club less than we would in real life. I don't take any of the numbers as iron
clad but gives you some kind of idea probably within 5% give or take.

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I'm guessing it was at some type of boat show? Winning a $75K pontoon boat and $25K in cash sounds great and all but now
you have become a "boat guy" and have to find a place for a big party cruiser.

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2016 Mizuno JPX-EZ Forged Irons. 4-GW for $299 w/multiple shaft and length options. Pretty insane deal:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 1911322224

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Played Bay Hill on a simulator today. I shot 80 with three 3-putts. Remarkably accurate in measuring how I screw up breaking 80.

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