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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:54 pm 
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Why would you want to survive in a world without like, pizza and stuff anyway? Gimme the cyanide capsule and spare me the anal rape.

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what the hell does diesel have to do with anything? cars are going to be useless after doomsday +1.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:56 pm 
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KEEF URBAN OR BIG COUNTRY?

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Someone once asked me how did those that live in the country fare. If they were better off than city dwellers. As always there are no simple answers. Wish I could say country good, city bad, but I can’t, because if I have to be completely honest, and I intend to be so, there are some issues that have to be analyzed, especially security. Of course that those that live in the country and have some land and animals were better prepared food-wise. No need to have several acres full of crops. A few fruit trees, some animals, such as chickens, cows and rabbits, and a small orchard was enough to be light years ahead of those in the cities. Chickens, eggs and rabbits would provide the proteins, a cow or two for milk and cheese, some vegetables and fruit plants covered the vegetable diet, and some eggs or a rabbit could be traded for flower to make bread and pasta or sugar and salt.

Of course that there are exceptions, for example, some provinces up north have desert climate and it almost never rains. It is almost impossible to live of the land, and animals require food and water you have to buy. Those guys had it bad; no wonder the Northern provinces suffer the most in my country. Those that live in cities, well they have to manage as they can. Since food prices went up about 200%-300%. People would cut expenses wherever they could so they could buy food. Some ate whatever they could; they hunted birds or ate street dogs and cats, others starved. When it comes to food, cities suck in a crisis. It is usually the lack of food or the impossibility to acquire it that starts the rioting and looting when TSHTF.

When it comes to security things get even more complicated. Forget about shooting those that mean you harm from 300 yards away with your MBR. Leave that notion to armchair commandos and 12 year old kids that pretend to be grown ups on the internet.

Some facts:

1) Those that want to harm you/steal from you don’t come with a pirate flag waving over their heads.

2) Neither do they start shooting at you 200 yards away.

3) They won’t come riding loud bikes or dressed with their orange, convict just escaped from prison jump suits, so that you can identify them the better. Nor do they all wear chains around their necks and leather jackets. If I had a dollar for each time a person that got robbed told me “They looked like NORMAL people, dressed better than we are”, honestly, I would have enough money for a nice gun. There are exceptions, but don’t expect them to dress like in the movies.

4) A man with a wife and two or three kids can’t set up a watch. I don’t care if you are SEAL, SWAT or John Freaking Rambo, no 6th sense is going to tell you that there is a guy pointing a gun at your back when you are trying to fix the water pump that just broke, or carrying a big heavy bag of dried beans you bought that morning.

The best alarm system anyone can have in a farm are dogs. But dogs can get killed and poisoned. A friend of mine had all four dogs poisoned on his farm one night, they all died. After all these years I learned that even though the person that lives out in the country is safer when it comes to small time robberies, that same person is more exposed to extremely violent home robberies. Criminals know that they are isolated and their feeling of invulnerability is boosted. When they assault a country home or farm, they will usually stay there for hours or days torturing the owners. I heard it all: women and children getting raped, people tied to the beds and tortured with electricity, beatings, burned with acetylene torches. Big cities aren’t much safer for the survivalist that decides to stay in the city. He will have to face express kidnappings, robberies, and pretty much risking getting shot for what’s in his pockets or even his clothes.

So, where to go? The concrete jungle is dangerous and so is living away from it all, on your own. The solution is to stay away from the cities but in groups, either by living in a small town-community or sub division, or if you have friends or family that think as you do, form your own small community. Some may think that having neighbors within “shouting” distance means loosing your privacy and freedom, but it’s a price that you have to pay if you want to have someone to help you if you ever need it. To those that believe that they will never need help from anyone because they will always have their rifle at hand, checking the horizon with their scope every five minutes and a first aid kit on their back packs at all times…. Grow up.


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what the hell does diesel have to do with anything? cars are going to be useless after doomsday +1.

Um, not if you can run it on fuel only. You are dead on day 1 soy boy.


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My plan is head up in the direction of the U.P. and get as far as I can. Get away from population centers as fast and far as you can.

the alternative is to set up a survival compound in Oak Park but you'd need a hell of an arsenal to protect that. I don't think you could.

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Im sure you'll be greeted with open arms by the people of the UP when you and your Marxist family come up there spouting all that lunatic "White people need to die" rhetoric that likely caused the shit to hit the fan in the first place.

Whatever, buy your fucking Jeep you dumbass boomer.


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why on earth would the right insurrect? we are getting things I never dreamt would happen. we are on the verge of opening the camps, you think I'm upset? lmao.

btw- you and yours ever want a free boxcar ride lemme know

I don't think our A.I. overlords are going to care what political party you jerk off to when they are culling the population of earth.

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My wife has 2 bug out bags packed away somewhere. I've never seen them, but I'm guessing they are filled with a bunch of crap she found online for under $5 each. Basically if the Apocalypse comes we'll be walking around with a mobile dollar store.

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Canoes and go South might actually be a good idea.

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why on earth would the right insurrect? we are getting things I never dreamt would happen. we are on the verge of opening the camps, you think I'm upset? lmao.

btw- you and yours ever want a free boxcar ride lemme know

I don't think our A.I. overlords are going to care what political party you jerk off to when they are culling the population of earth.



A popular intro story at Machine Learning or Deep Learning conferences is a probably apocryphal, possibly PK Dick-ian story of engineers loading up a Watson type system with medical knowledge, CDC data, NMDS type data sets, etc and then querying the computer:

"How do we eliminate cancer from the planet?"


The computer comes back with the perfectly logical:

"Kill all the humans"


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America wrote:
Im sure you'll be greeted with open arms by the people of the UP when you and your Marxist family come up there spouting all that lunatic "White people need to die" rhetoric that likely caused the shit to hit the fan in the first place.

Whatever, buy your fucking Jeep you dumbass boomer.


:lol: :lol:

Sorry, I can't help it.

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Canoes and go South might actually be a good idea.



send your dna into 23andSendYourWeirdUncleToPrison.com and maybe they'll find you have "indigenous people's" heritage. Bug out to a reservation to smoke peace pipes and drink firewater with the natives til shit blows over. Or a casino.

Or do what some of the more active geriatrics do. Turns out the daily cost of a cruise can often be less than the daily cost of a nursing home; so some seniors will spend most of their time on various cruise ships rather than waste away in a nursing home.


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Again, canoeing "south" out of the Lake Michigan watershed is only possible down the Illinois and Mississippi. Very inconspicuous.


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Again, canoeing "south" out of the Lake Michigan watershed is only possible down the Illinois and Mississippi. Very inconspicuous.
By way of the most glorious waterway in the southland; the Cal Sag Channel

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Right, an open sewer. Hatchetman will get cholera before he makes it to Peoria.


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Some deadly pathogen will get most of us.

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Some deadly pathogen will get most of us.

Randall fuckin’ Flagg

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Right, an open sewer. Hatchetman will get cholera before he makes it to Peoria.


And if he doesn't, he'll definitely get it here.


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My wife has 2 bug out bags packed away somewhere. I've never seen them, but I'm guessing they are filled with a bunch of crap she found online for under $5 each. Basically if the Apocalypse comes we'll be walking around with a mobile dollar store.


:lol:

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Going to get a couple jerry cans. I just need to GET somewhere defensible. Won't be driving around Armageddon sightseeing.

Ideally would have some guns of some sort to ward away the wandering hordes. Ammo won't last too long though.

Agreed. People like America, ToxicMasculinity, and leashyourkids seem to be taking over.


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Bows are just as deadly as guns in trained hands. You're simply wrong if you think they are somehow ineffective.

Did you ever watch the movie Blind Fury?? Rutger Hauer really shines in it. Anyway, he kicks total ass and he is blind and only has a sword!!

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Des Plaines River is a couple miles from my house. Easy peasy. Head for Northern Missouri where I’m sure we’ll be warmly received.

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ok the Des Plaines confluences the canal just outside the city limits. All rivers in the Chicago area flow into the Illinois/Mississippi.


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ok the Des Plaines confluences the canal just outside the city limits. All rivers in the Chicago area flow into the Illinois/Mississippi.


Correct. You'll never get past the Asian Carp.

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I wouldn't go anywhere, rough ass winters in the UP.. Plenty of fresh water and food here. The deer and turkey population would explode.

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I wouldn't go anywhere, rough ass winters in the UP.. Plenty of fresh water and food here. The deer and turkey population would explode.

The puma's would come back quick. Me and the RWDS will gleefully watch the pumas tear Hatchetman's and his kin to pieces.


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I wouldn't go anywhere, rough ass winters in the UP.. Plenty of fresh water and food here. The deer and turkey population would explode.

The puma's would come back quick. Me and the RWDS will gleefully watch the pumas tear Hatchetman's and his kin to pieces.



Wolves and bears would return too, I'd be holding down northerly island with my clan. Eating Perch , chicken and venison year round

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I'm gonna assume it takes zero skill, find a hole and put your fist in it.. Catfish bites fist, pull fish from hole.

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This is pretty much the baddest MFer to ever live.

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