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Well, I'd disagree with that. It's like saying a TV show is "harassing" you. You're free to turn it off any time.
Not it isn't. I mean, literally, it isn't anything like that. Not even a tiny bit.

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 Post subject: Re: Julie DiCaro!!!
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Funny thing about that is DiCaro went after that guy unprovoked. Isn't that the type of stuff she blocks people for? That wasn't her battle to begin with yet she had something to say about it.

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 Post subject: Re: Julie DiCaro!!!
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Are you honestly saying those tweets are not considered harassment?


They're certainly vile, but for me to call something harassment, it would have to be something I couldn't escape. I'm sure if Julie were a CSFMB member she would consider your argument style "harassment".
I know that there are multiple definitions of harassment but "not being able to escape" is not part of any of them.

The tweet about "next time I'm in Chicago" is clearly harassment.


Here's Webster on "harassment"

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b (1) : to annoy persistently (2) : to create an unpleasant or hostile situation for especially by uninvited and unwelcome verbal or physical conduct


Certainly not #1, as the tweets numbered 4 and were sent within moments of each other. Maybe #2, maybe? What was the "unpleasant or hostile situation" created by Julie seeing vile things on her phone? Unpleasant, sure, but is it a "situation" if you can just put your phone down and the "harassment" is abated, or block the guy and never see him tweet something at you again? Uninvited? Hardly, she created a public account, and has numerous times refused to protect her tweets, twitter's most viable way of dealing with trolls.

There's absolutely zero credibility to anything even remotely threatening said by that asshole, so any feeling of hostility or fear is unreasonable and irrational.
It is pretty simple. If he had called her cell phone and said those things we'd all think it is harassment. If your wife or girlfriend got a call that was saying that you'd be thinking she was being harassed.

But, for some reason, with twitter, she should stop being so dramatic.

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 Post subject: Re: Julie DiCaro!!!
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Mitch, Julie will have to stay home until she knows this guy is incarcerated.

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It was a very specific threat . He knows she works in Chicago.

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Jesus, that shit makes our ribbing look tame.

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Mitch, Julie will have to stay home until she knows this guy is incarcerated.


they'll just give her an ISDN line so she can misspeak from home. I find julie annoying, bad at her job, and her SJW/"look at me taking twitter abuse shtick" to be obnoxious.... but nobody deserves to be talked to in that manner and i would call that harassment.


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Mitch, Julie will have to stay home until she knows this guy is incarcerated.


they'll just give her an ISDN line so she can misspeak from home. I find julie annoying, bad at her job, and her SJW/"look at me taking twitter abuse shtick" to be obnoxious.... but nobody deserves to be talked to in that manner and i would call that harassment.



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Mitch, Julie will have to stay home until she knows this guy is incarcerated.


they'll just give her an ISDN line so she can misspeak from home. I find julie annoying, bad at her job, and her SJW/"look at me taking twitter abuse shtick" to be obnoxious.... but nobody deserves to be talked to in that manner and i would call that harassment.


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 Post subject: Re: Julie DiCaro!!!
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Well, @1badnight got suspended, so that's good.

I'd like to think we have some loose rules of engagement regarding dear old Julie. Making fun of her scoreboard mistakes or photoshopping her tweets into Garfield cartoons is one thing, but shit's not supposed to get real, this is a message board.

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billypootons wrote:
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Mitch, Julie will have to stay home until she knows this guy is incarcerated.


they'll just give her an ISDN line so she can misspeak from home. I find julie annoying, bad at her job, and her SJW/"look at me taking twitter abuse shtick" to be obnoxious.... but nobody deserves to be talked to in that manner and i would call that harassment.


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On the other hand, I do think Tim Baffoe should get raped.

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billypootons wrote:
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Mitch, Julie will have to stay home until she knows this guy is incarcerated.


they'll just give her an ISDN line so she can misspeak from home. I find julie annoying, bad at her job, and her SJW/"look at me taking twitter abuse shtick" to be obnoxious.... but nobody deserves to be talked to in that manner and i would call that harassment.


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:lol: that should be used when her SJW team tries to come to her rescue when people attack her dumb thoughts


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 Post subject: Re: Julie DiCaro!!!
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Oh, it will be .

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 Post subject: Re: Julie DiCaro!!!
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This is a pretty good string of tweets from a guy who used to follow her but ran afoul and was blocked for disagreeing that someone was harassing her.

actually one more thing before I never seen another tweet from you. This whole thing about how you HAVE to be on Twitter is absurd. You could easily have a Twitter handle where you follow everyone that you need to follow from a random account. You don't HAVE to tweet or have a known Twitter handle
but you like this. You think it will advance your career by "handling the trolls". You don't have to do that.

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Some guy saying he's going to re-rape Julie is abhorrent and a childish way to deal with a weird fascination with defending Kobe Bryant, but it's not a "threat" in any reasonable interpretation of the term.



Its also not a threat because technically you can't re-rape someone who's never been raped.

And we already proved in the last thread that her rape story had more holes in it than a upstate NY evidence bag.

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Well, I'd disagree with that. It's like saying a TV show is "harassing" you. You're free to turn it off any time.
Not it isn't. I mean, literally, it isn't anything like that. Not even a tiny bit.



In that case, you're harassing me right now.

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JORR vs BRick heating up!

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If he calls me a fat twat I'm calling the cops.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Some guy saying he's going to re-rape Julie is abhorrent and a childish way to deal with a weird fascination with defending Kobe Bryant, but it's not a "threat" in any reasonable interpretation of the term.



Its also not a threat because technically you can't re-rape someone who's never been raped.

And we already proved in the last thread that her rape story had more holes in it than a upstate NY evidence bag.


This is just a series of great thoughts right here.

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It is pretty simple. If he had called her cell phone and said those things we'd all think it is harassment. If your wife or girlfriend got a call that was saying that you'd be thinking she was being harassed.

But, for some reason, with twitter, she should stop being so dramatic.


Apples and bowling balls, BRick, come on. A telephone number is a quasi-private (and in some cases literally private) means of direct communication, given out at the discretion of the owner at the time. A public twitter account is indexed and searchable, its tweets able to be seen, and intended to be seen, by anyone with an internet connection.

If my wife or girlfriend was publishing her phone number on the internet regularly for the express purpose of having people interact with her via the telephone, I would say they have quite the weaker position of outrage at having people say things they don't like on the phone.


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‏@JulieDiCaro Julie DiCaro Retweeted Lukas Mikelionis
Thankfully, the Guardian piece at issue proved it's a gender issue, genius.Julie DiCaro added,
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Thankfully, there's always a feminist who will make this a gender issue


She's like the anti-vaxxers that will cling to literally anything that bolsters their position, Jesus. Thankfully Julie lives in a bubble where Ramblin Grimace will call her brave for exhaustively blocking people skeptical of her claims.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It is pretty simple. If he had called her cell phone and said those things we'd all think it is harassment. If your wife or girlfriend got a call that was saying that you'd be thinking she was being harassed.

But, for some reason, with twitter, she should stop being so dramatic.


Apples and bowling balls, BRick, come on. A telephone number is a quasi-private (and in some cases literally private) means of direct communication, given out at the discretion of the owner at the time. A public twitter account is indexed and searchable, its tweets able to be seen, and intended to be seen, by anyone with an internet connection.

If my wife or girlfriend was publishing her phone number on the internet regularly for the express purpose of having people interact with her via the telephone, I would say they have quite the weaker position of outrage at having people say things they don't like on the phone.


Exactly. We shouldn't compare different forms of communication. On Twitter it seems fine for anyone to post any crazy 140 character thought and then when questioned about it, respond with, "I don't owe you an answer." If you did that in person, you'd just be a rude asshole.

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Apples and bowling balls, BRick, come on. A telephone number is a quasi-private (and in some cases literally private) means of direct communication, given out at the discretion of the owner at the time. A public twitter account is indexed and searchable, its tweets able to be seen, and intended to be seen, by anyone with an internet connection.
Fine. Let's say someone says that to her in a public park? Is it harassment.

Your problem is your lack of ability to understand that just because it is "the internet" that the rules suddenly change.

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If my wife or girlfriend was publishing her phone number on the internet regularly for the express purpose of having people interact with her via the telephone, I would say they have quite the weaker position of outrage at having people say things they don't like on the phone.
So you'd be fine if someone tweeted that the next time they were in the same town that she has a problem?

To put it another way, do you think Julie is asking for it and shouldn't behave in a way that causes a man to harass her?

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Fine. Let's say someone says that to her in a public park? Is it harassment?


Of course. I'm sure you don't come at people in person the way you do on this board. That isn't a criticism of you either. You know it would anti-social, but in this forum it's fine and you're a respected guy.

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I'm confused. Did the dude threaten to rape her? If so, it's wrong and should be shouted down by everyone. There is really no context needed. The method of communication is irrelevant.

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That guy needs to be banned. We can all criticize Julie for plenty of stuff related to on air performance or the some of the silly stuff she tweets. But that guy went way over the line. To make it worse, he continued it with several tweets and even referenced Chicago.

Let's not allow our dislike of her opinions blind us from people being way out of line.

And to equate what goes around here (where we sorta know one another and get the jokes) to that type of stuff on Twitter is pretty off base.


or you can just ignore her and let her deal with issues she creates?

Lets talk IDITAROD!

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I'm confused. Did the dude threaten to rape her? If so, it's wrong and should be shouted down by everyone. There is really no context needed. The method of communication is irrelevant.


We're not discussing whether the guy is a jerk-off. That isn't in question. We're discussing whether it's harassment, a traumatic event, a real threat.

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I'm confused. Did the dude threaten to rape her? If so, it's wrong and should be shouted down by everyone. There is really no context needed. The method of communication is irrelevant.


We're not discussing whether the guy is a jerk-off. That isn't in question. We're discussing whether it's harassment, a traumatic event, a real threat.


If a guy says "I'm going to come to where you live, find you, and rape you," that's pretty cut and dried, I think. There's a lot of ambiguous bullshit in her twitter escapades, but this isn't that.

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