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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:41 pm ] |
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I hated Cutler. That's probably the only Bears starter I couldn't get on board with. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:45 pm ] |
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If I've got one game to win, I'm starting Cutler over Fields. Both probably break my heart with a game losing pick 6, but at least with Jay I know I would have the chance at putting up points and moving the ball. Until proven otherwise, yesterday with Fields was an anomaly, |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:47 pm ] |
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Fields would need maybe 15-20 games with similar production to move the meters in a statistically meaningful way. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:47 pm ] |
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Frank Coztansa wrote: If I've got one game to win, I'm starting Cutler over Fields. Both probably break my heart with a game losing pick 6, but at least with Jay I know I would have the chance at putting up points and moving the ball. Until proven otherwise, yesterday with Fields was an anomaly, I would probably start you over Fields. Isn't he like 4 and 30? |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:57 pm ] |
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That would not be smart, Nas. I'm not very fast. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:00 pm ] |
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Frank Coztansa wrote: That would not be smart, Nas. I'm not very fast. When I saw you a couple of weeks ago, a biological woman wasn't driving, you weren't wearing a blouse, and you appeared to be able to see what was going on on the road. That level of decison making and competence is far better than what Fields has given me in 3 years. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:08 pm ] |
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One game to win: Mccowan Cutler Grossman Chicago Orton (Denver Orton would be higher) (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky |
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| Author: | Clawmaster [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:47 pm ] |
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veganfan21 wrote: One game to win: Mccowan Cutler Grossman Chicago Orton (Denver Orton would be higher) (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky If I had Grossman's offensive line and Cutler's skill position guys I'd go with Cutler. Any QB would have a hard time operating behind the current offensive line. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:58 pm ] |
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My buddy at work (Steelers fan) is saying much of Steeler nation wants Tomlin gone. If he's fired, the Bears have to scoop him up immediately. Don't let Poles do the interview/negotiation it has to be Warren. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:12 pm ] |
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Clawmaster wrote: veganfan21 wrote: One game to win: Mccowan Cutler Grossman Chicago Orton (Denver Orton would be higher) (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky If I had Grossman's offensive line and Cutler's skill position guys I'd go with Cutler. Any QB would have a hard time operating behind the current offensive line. No Bears player had more talent around him than Cutler. I would take Grossman in a heartbeat. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky would be 2nd. Cutler would be last. There's never been a Bears player in my lifetime who can remove all hope in 3 minutes like Cutler could. |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:19 pm ] |
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i'd go with Mitch |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:27 pm ] |
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Everyone thought Cutler was great because of his last season in Denver. It's funny to look back on it and realize even that season in Denver wasn't nearly as good as what (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky did his second year. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:33 pm ] |
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Brick wrote: Everyone thought Cutler was great because of his last season in Denver. It's funny to look back on it and realize even that season in Denver wasn't nearly as good as what (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky did his second year. I think the thinking was "this is a 24/25 year old QB on an upward trajectory, let's grab him and enjoy when the reaches his potential" as much as it was about past performance. The Cutler deal made sense at the time - who wouldn't want to grab a QB on his rookie deal who displayed some potential.. those guys rarely become available. Of course afterwards you realize cutlers career didn't reach what everyone thought it could, but even becoming an above average QB for Chicago places him statistically in the top 3 or 5 QBs all time for this team which is quite sad. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:44 pm ] |
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Brick wrote: Everyone thought Cutler was great because of his last season in Denver. It's funny to look back on it and realize even that season in Denver wasn't nearly as good as what (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky did his second year. um, Pro Bowl Quarterback (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky |
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| Author: | Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:40 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: That's why everyone thinks nearly everything that happened when they were kids or young was better. I think Bobby Douglass was almost exactly the same as Fields. He sucked too. I've said that this team reminds me a lot of the 1974 Bears. The saving grace in 1974 was that Jim Finks joined the organization after the season started and then wiped out everyone of importance in the coaching and management ranks, then went and drafted Walter Payton #3. If Kevin Warren knows how to either be the next Finks or knows how to hire him, then there is a path out of this mess. |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 6:11 pm ] |
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Curious Hair wrote: Problem is that the situation is so dire for the Bears, having pretty much been garbage for the last 30 years, that I don't think anyone outside the media class cares about any of that nonsense. (Maybe Brogue.) Bears fans are desirous that any quarterback do well at this point, one would have to think. But at this point, I think it's obvious that Fields can fail and be failed in equal measure, and that once again, this guy is not the guy, and everyone should be able to say it by now. Right they should be able to say it but they dont / didnt and you certainly dont/ didnt have a white studio analyst saying Fields was garbage on a national post game show despite a 5-29 career record as a starter or even after he managed 99 fucking yards passing in a game that was over by halftime because they know the backlash they would face for it. Rodney Harrison however, is perfectly comfortable saying that about Zach Wilson even after a game in which he outperformed the best quarterback in the league because he knows nothing will happen to him. Kudos to Chris Jones for not rising to the bait and taking the high road. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 6:21 pm ] |
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Saleh or someone on that team has to challenge Harrison to a fight or something after that. That's the only way to fix it and defend your team from that kind of below the belt commentary. |
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| Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 6:37 pm ] |
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Guy made a living as one of the dirtiest players in the game. Trash talking a very bad QB seems like progress. |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:36 am ] |
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Shaq or Chuck would get away with that questioning, though. |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:09 am ] |
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Curious Hair wrote: Shaq or Chuck would get away with that questioning, though. They wouldn't have to "get away with it." In the NBA it's assumed any white guy sucks. Even Larry Bird. |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:06 pm ] |
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I just meant the unprofessionalism of the line of questioning in general absent any race factor. |
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| Author: | Nardi [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:30 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Curious Hair wrote: Shaq or Chuck would get away with that questioning, though. They wouldn't have to "get away with it." In the NBA it's assumed any white guy sucks. Even Larry Bird. C'mon now. They roast everybody including each other. Chuck: Kobe had back surgery from having to carry you Shaq. |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:35 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Curious Hair wrote: Shaq or Chuck would get away with that questioning, though. They wouldn't have to "get away with it." In the NBA it's assumed any white guy sucks. Even Larry Bird. You must not watch inside the NBA. They rip everyone apart. |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:40 pm ] |
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Nardi wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Curious Hair wrote: Shaq or Chuck would get away with that questioning, though. They wouldn't have to "get away with it." In the NBA it's assumed any white guy sucks. Even Larry Bird. C'mon now. They roast everybody including each other. Chuck: Kobe had back surgery from having to carry you Shaq. Are you saying there isn't a thought- more than occasionally expressed out loud- that any player with white skin is "soft"? |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:42 pm ] |
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https://youtu.be/jc6_XgtOQgI?si=k5A3gNKKBmUtq-ck |
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| Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:44 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nardi wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Curious Hair wrote: Shaq or Chuck would get away with that questioning, though. They wouldn't have to "get away with it." In the NBA it's assumed any white guy sucks. Even Larry Bird. C'mon now. They roast everybody including each other. Chuck: Kobe had back surgery from having to carry you Shaq. Are you saying there isn't a thought- more than occasionally expressed out loud- that any player with white skin is "soft"? I think there’s a carve-out for Serbians. |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:48 pm ] |
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JORogue |
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| Author: | Nardi [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:52 pm ] |
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Bagels wrote: https://youtu.be/jc6_XgtOQgI?si=k5A3gNKKBmUtq-ck Good scene except for that no talent Martin Lawrence. |
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| Author: | HawaiiYou [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:56 pm ] |
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Nardi wrote: Bagels wrote: https://youtu.be/jc6_XgtOQgI?si=k5A3gNKKBmUtq-ck Good scene except for that no talent Martin Lawrence. Martin was a great show. It launched the new Fox Network at the time. I don' t know why I don't see it in syndication. probably racism |
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