Iverson

He won an NBA finals game. Melo has only been out of the first round once. I think he actually has the worst win % in the playoffs of any player in NBA history. I guess you could put that on his plaque in the HOF.

This is false. He has been out of the first round more than once.

Iverson

Correct. Twice.

Iverson, Carter, and McGrady are like the holy trinity of ultimately not mattering, aren't they?

This is false. He has been out of the first round more than once.

Interesting that the master of spin would focus on an aging 3rd option at best Carmelo even at this late date. This wasnt his team

What time period should I focus on?

Not this one. If your only argument is going to be that he is a bum because he didn't win then its a stupid one.

The best player to ever play with him for the first 14 years of his career was Chauncey Billups. During the short time that they played together he made it to the Conference Finals and lost to a better player and a much better team.

Can you name one team that he has ever played for that was ever supposed to win a championship? If you can name the team then please name the 2nd best player on said team?

If you can't name the player or team then its futile to continue this rather pointless debate.

Not this one. If your only argument is going to be that he is a bum because he didn't win then its a stupid one.

The best player to ever play with him for the first 14 years of his career was Chauncey Billups. During the short time that they played together he made it to the Conference Finals and lost to a better player and a much better team.

Can you name one team that he has ever played for that was ever supposed to win a championship? If you can name the team then please name the 2nd best player on said team?

If you can't name the player or team then its futile to continue this rather pointless debate.

The WCF appearance with Denver is the only time his team exceeded expectations though. There have been more examples of him losing as a higher seed than winning as a lower seed.

The WCF appearance with Denver is the only time his team exceeded expectations though. There have been more examples of him losing as a higher seed than winning as a lower seed.

Are arguing against me or with me now?

Are arguing against me or with me now?

Goff is the Score's resident NBA Expert and Bulls Insider.

That's all you need to know.

I don't know about that - plenty of guys that were just as good if not better who also didn't win anything:

Barkley
Ewing
T-Mac
Chris Webber
Malone
Kemp
Miller

Let's not deflect. I asked rather simple questions.

The only solution to me taking too many shots is for me to take significantly more shots.

I agree with you. His career was a waste of a good talent.

Your questions helped my arguments. What answers do you want?

His teams were mostly useless and is accomplished and he had many ways he could have avoided that.

He could score though. His teams just didn't win much from that great ability.

You spin and deflect so much that even you don't know what it is that you are trying to say.

He didn't do shit in this league other than score.

There is no spin or deflection here. Go read the first post of this thread.

Yeah but you have Thibs as a top 3 coach based on beating a shitty ass Brooklyn Net team that was already on its 2nd coach during that particular season. Some lofty standards you set.

You also go to the death for Russell Westbrook and Carmelo Anthony (in his prime) never had the benefit of playing with anyone as good as Paul George.

If you put Kyrie "the bitch" Irving on OKC i guarantee they beat the Jazz.