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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
Austin was finished by 19 due to injuries and Hogan wasn't. Austin did the job out the door to the Rock in a match we'd already seen two years before and two years before that. He should have done it for Hogan. We also could have had Rock/Michaels at that show, another match that never happened, because Rock and/or Michaels was being a poutypants. What a shame. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
Rock Hogan is one of my favorite matches ever. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
rogers park bryan wrote: Rock Hogan is one of my favorite matches ever. Completely stole the show. |
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| Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
long time guy wrote: NWA would have Flair wrestle for 60 minutes on television at times. If WWF had a match exceed 15 you'd damn near hold a parade. Hulk mentioned that in the 30 for 30 show. I think he said Flair had over 30 matches that lasted an hour...Hulk never had a single one. Just emblematic of the difference between the NWA/WCW and WWF. |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
As someone who wasn't a fan before the Monday Night Wars, it's so hard to understand televised wrestling as really only being there to promote the circuit of house shows, which were the actual business. It seems so upside-down, and it was. Why would such a big match be off television at the Fuckville Civic Center instead of on the USA Network? That way, you can sell tickets to the show and everyone else can watch for free. But then again I guess no one stayed in business having Ric Flair give away quality matches on TBS. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
Jaw Breaker wrote: long time guy wrote: NWA would have Flair wrestle for 60 minutes on television at times. If WWF had a match exceed 15 you'd damn near hold a parade. Hulk mentioned that in the 30 for 30 show. I think he said Flair had over 30 matches that lasted an hour...Hulk never had a single one. Just emblematic of the difference between the NWA/WCW and WWF. Crazy part about it was that shows were only an hour long . I remember Flair wrestling Barry Windham for an hour long show. I couldn't imagine them doing that today. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
I first started watching wrestling when I was 8 years old. Old AWA. I remember Crusher Blackwell wrestling Mad Dog Vashon at one of UIC Pavilion house shows. I didn't attend the match but it was supposed to be a "Texas Death Match". I woke up that Sunday morning turned on the Sunday morning AWA program thinking that one of them would be dead because after all it was a Texas Death Match. 
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| Author: | Bagels [ Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
long time guy wrote: Jaw Breaker wrote: long time guy wrote: NWA would have Flair wrestle for 60 minutes on television at times. If WWF had a match exceed 15 you'd damn near hold a parade. Hulk mentioned that in the 30 for 30 show. I think he said Flair had over 30 matches that lasted an hour...Hulk never had a single one. Just emblematic of the difference between the NWA/WCW and WWF. Crazy part about it was that shows were only an hour long . I remember Flair wrestling Barry Windham for an hour long show. I couldn't imagine them doing that today. i remember them showing the Ron Garvin title match from Starrcade 87 on TV once and it being an hour |
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| Author: | tommy [ Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
Bagels wrote: long time guy wrote: Jaw Breaker wrote: long time guy wrote: NWA would have Flair wrestle for 60 minutes on television at times. If WWF had a match exceed 15 you'd damn near hold a parade. Hulk mentioned that in the 30 for 30 show. I think he said Flair had over 30 matches that lasted an hour...Hulk never had a single one. Just emblematic of the difference between the NWA/WCW and WWF. Crazy part about it was that shows were only an hour long . I remember Flair wrestling Barry Windham for an hour long show. I couldn't imagine them doing that today. i remember them showing the Ron Garvin title match from Starrcade 87 on TV once and it being an hour that was in Chicago. they showed it on channel 26 like three months later... |
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| Author: | Chus [ Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
rogers park bryan wrote: Rock Hogan is one of my favorite matches ever. Macho Man vs. Ricky Steamboat in Wrestlemania III. |
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| Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
Chus wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Rock Hogan is one of my favorite matches ever. Macho Man vs. Ricky Steamboat in Wrestlemania III. Truth Flair/Steamboat at Chi Town Rumble in 89 was also top notch. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
Chus wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Rock Hogan is one of my favorite matches ever. Macho Man vs. Ricky Steamboat in Wrestlemania III. Yea, that one is probably still my #1 Now there's a perfect mix of storyline and technical greatness. |
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| Author: | tommy [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
rogers park bryan wrote: Chus wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Rock Hogan is one of my favorite matches ever. Macho Man vs. Ricky Steamboat in Wrestlemania III. Yea, that one is probably still my #1 Now there's a perfect mix of storyline and technical greatness. Announcers were great in that one, too.... |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
Steamboat and Macho man was great. But Steamboats matches with Ric Flair were better. |
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| Author: | tommy [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
RFDC wrote: Steamboat and Macho man was great. But Steamboats matches with Ric Flair were better. Apparently. Had no idea until I watched the 30 for 30 and then went back and watched some of them...these guys were technically brilliant. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
I watched the end of the 93 Rumble yesterday where Yokozuna won. I hadnt seen it in years. Hilarious ending. Macho Man finally knocks Yoko off his feet, hits the flying elbow then goes for the cover like it's a normal match and Yoko pushes him off over the top rope for the win. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
I will try to catch the rerun. Did Flair talk much about Arn? It always seemed that Arn Anderson was the closest friend that he'd ever had inside of wrestling. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
long time guy wrote: I will try to catch the rerun. Did Flair talk much about Arn? It always seemed that Arn Anderson was the closest friend that he'd ever had inside of wrestling. They did like 30 seconds on the Horseman |
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| Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
long time guy wrote: I will try to catch the rerun. Did Flair talk much about Arn? It always seemed that Arn Anderson was the closest friend that he'd ever had inside of wrestling. Tully was on a lot. Not as much Arn. |
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| Author: | SuperMario [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
rogers park bryan wrote: I watched the end of the 93 Rumble yesterday where Yokozuna won. I hadnt seen it in years. Hilarious ending. Macho Man finally knocks Yoko off his feet, hits the flying elbow then goes for the cover like it's a normal match and Yoko pushes him off over the top rope for the win. That was the worst sell by Macho Man ever. When Yoko pushes him up, Macho Man lands on the rope with a majority of his body still on the ring side, and he does this stupid bounce on the rope and then somehow goes over. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
rogers park bryan wrote: long time guy wrote: I will try to catch the rerun. Did Flair talk much about Arn? It always seemed that Arn Anderson was the closest friend that he'd ever had inside of wrestling. They did like 30 seconds on the Horseman It seems like from reading that it was mostly the WWE years? Flair was sort of done by the time he hit the WWF. His best years were in the NWA/WCW. I would have loved to know what they really thought about having to work the "your spot" "my spot" angle with Curt Henning and Mongo. That was an all time low for the Horseman and it cemented the reign of the NWO. It was already apparent but that was sort of the nail in the proverbial coffin for that once proud crew. That shit hurt as a longtime Horseman fan. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
long time guy wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: long time guy wrote: I will try to catch the rerun. Did Flair talk much about Arn? It always seemed that Arn Anderson was the closest friend that he'd ever had inside of wrestling. They did like 30 seconds on the Horseman It seems like from reading that it was mostly the WWE years? Flair was sort of done by the time he hit the WWF. His best years were in the NWA/WCW No, that's not accurate. There was probably more NWA clips than WWE. |
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| Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
rogers park bryan wrote: long time guy wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: long time guy wrote: I will try to catch the rerun. Did Flair talk much about Arn? It always seemed that Arn Anderson was the closest friend that he'd ever had inside of wrestling. They did like 30 seconds on the Horseman It seems like from reading that it was mostly the WWE years? Flair was sort of done by the time he hit the WWF. His best years were in the NWA/WCW No, that's not accurate. There was probably more NWA clips than WWE. This There was a lot of focus on early life too. Probably the first 30 minutes in a 90 minute (with commercials) run time. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
rogers park bryan wrote: long time guy wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: long time guy wrote: I will try to catch the rerun. Did Flair talk much about Arn? It always seemed that Arn Anderson was the closest friend that he'd ever had inside of wrestling. They did like 30 seconds on the Horseman It seems like from reading that it was mostly the WWE years? Flair was sort of done by the time he hit the WWF. His best years were in the NWA/WCW No, that's not accurate. There was probably more NWA clips than WWE. Yeah. 85% NWA/Personal stuff 10% WWE 5% TNA |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
RFDC wrote: Steamboat and Macho man was great. But Steamboats matches with Ric Flair were better. I agree. Savage and Steamboat was brilliantly orchestrated beforehand, down to every last detail. Steamboat has said how difficult that was for him but Randy needed to do it that way. Flair and Steamboat called it in the ring and they both were so good at being able to feel the crowd and adapt on the fly. |
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| Author: | Exile on Route 41 [ Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 11/8 - Ric Flair = Mean Guy = Trump |
Anyone else ever go see NWA at the Hammond Civic Center? I remember the Stossel thing. Funny shit. "OK. Is wrestling fake?" "RHAAAAAAAAAAA!!" (slap, slap, slap, slap, slap) |
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