The worst thing about Keyser as a fan is that when its a guy he likes (Tim Anderson, Robin Ventura), he will never criticize or say a bad word about the guy. And likewise when its a player he hates (Alexei Ramirez, Yoan Moncada) he will never praise them when they deserve it.

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Okay.

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Tim Anderson is who he is.

Really? Who is the guy that he said was going to be great who was? Just remember this when Madrigal is better than any guy Keyser has ever touted.

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Not a shortstop.

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He is in the HOF. The argument is irrelevant.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
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That was great when Keyser used to tout Beckham as a future HOF'er.

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He is a SS. Not a good one, but he is one.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

Okay. Matt Davidson is a pitcher too.

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Hey, "Batty" has better numbers than most of the guys in the Sox bullpen!

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Dan and McMilquetoast were interviewing Doug Glanville, and while taking about Ben Zobrists' advanced metrics this came up again. Bernsie said "According to today's metrics Lou Brock suuuucked..." Glanville seemed to laugh awkwardly (I haven't heard him very often so I guess I don't know if that was a normal laugh for him or an awkward one) and Bernsie said something about Brock being a terrible defensive player and "don't get me started on that..."

Dan had Zobrist written off two years ago.

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A few things about my guy Lou Brock:

-75% SB Rate

A Baseball Prospectus study concluded that if your success rate is less than 75%, you’re better off not running at all. So he was right at the break-even point.

.343 Career OBP

The starting point for a quality on-base guy should be .350.

.958 Career fielding percentage

167 errors is nearly double that of the next worst outfielder in baseball history. Probably still better than Adam Dunn, though.

Brock does not appear to be a legitimate hall of famer, but someone with 3000 hits and the pre-Henderson SB record is a no-brain selection.

I used to hold him in a very high regard. I was severely brainwashed by the baseball card market for MANY years.

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Bad era for offense during much of his career, though.

More hits than Clemente and more steals than Cobb.

TRANSLATION: I saw Brock play and thought he was good. Then somebody told me he sucked and I believed them.

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I was an infant when Brock retired.

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always claiming victim status

I get that he was the most feared baserunner of his era, and therefore very exciting to watch.

The Hall of Very Good is nothing to sneeze at.

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Good don't get ya in the HOF

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I wonder why this bothers Bernsie so much?

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Hold up there, Mister Man. How do you explain Bon Jovi's election to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?

They told the doorman they were Van Halen and snuck in

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It’s complicated. One major factor would likely be Tim Raines waiting 10 years to get in. A guy who got on base 40% of the time, stole bases at an 85% clip, etc. The second greatest baserunner in MLB history according to fangraphs (although Rickey Henderson is way ahead of him). But he only had 2605 hits.

Dan likely has many issues, ranging from uneducated sportswriters to arbitrary milestones (3000 hits qualifying for automatic entry while guys in the 2600-2900 range get dissed), etc.

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First of all, the "break even" point on steals depends on what kind of offensive environment exists at the time. In a lower scoring environment there is obviously a greater reward for taking the risk than there is an an era when the ball is juiced and the chances of one of the next two or three batters whacking one out of the park or against the wall is far greater.

Second, while it is fairly clear that batting order doesn't have any great effect on run scoring over the course of an entire season, I would argue that the one position in the batting order that is critical is the lead-off position. The team that scores first wins a high percentage of games.

Finally, the argument about Brock's admittedly poor defense on an outfield corner is shown to be disingenuous when another popular SABRmetric stance is the negligibility of defense on the outfield corners.

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I believe it's this year that KLaw qualifies for a HOF vote. Hopefully he organizes the criteria to help the voters get the most deserving players in and make the HOF worth paying attention to again.

Hopefully, he'll get fired again.

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I agree. I don’t know what the break-even point would be in the 60s/70s. Joe Morgan played during the same time period as Brock, and he had an 81% rate on nearly 700 steals. Willie Wilson started his career in 1976, and he had an 83% rate with close to 700 steals. I’d have to do more research.

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Ranked 11th by fangraphs and frankly, the last month, month and a half, he's been sensational. He's been playing more free and easy and it's helped.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?p ... &players=0

Check out his Out Of Zone plays. It's off the charts and that's what saves him and saves runs