Hardly. It COULD be great which is what makes it so fucking frustrating.

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It's funny to me how often Dan is wrong on the NBA.

Kobe won't be remembered as the Last of the Great Inefficients (this isn't even a thing). He's going to mainly be remembered as the closest thing we've had to Michael Jordan and the last NBA superstar that didn't try to create a Superteam.

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If all you watch is the Chicago Bulls then yes I could see how you’d hate the NBA.

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Is there a difference between creating a super team and being drafted into one? The end result is the same - your team is stacked. Kobe wasn't the best player on his team until Shaq left.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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Of course.

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FavreFan taking shots at Duncan!

Duncan was the better player but I've long since come to terms with the fact that he was not a "superstar" in the conventional sense like Kobe was.

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yep

I think Lebron is diminished by having to chase other people rather than them coming to him.

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No one wants to live in Cleveland.

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I just went to Basketball Ref to check on what the efficiencies actually were and I can stop laughing at the explanation of eFG%: "This Statistic adjusts for the fact that a 3-point field goal is worth 1 more point than a 2-point field goal."

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I'd venture to say I'm one of the few that ponied up the $200 for League Pass so I could watch a bunch of games that have no meaning.

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Yes the NBA has always been that way tho.

I’ll admit this season hasn’t really lived up to the hype with Zion and Steph getting hurt early on, but there are still a lot of good players and teams to watch.

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I don't think it matters. Jordan benefitting from Pippen's growth into a star was due to pure luck. LBJ did not benefit from the same luck so he sought out his own Pippen.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

I don't think it matters either. And I never understood the argument that it does. Actually, I do understand the argument. It's a position Bulls fans take to support Jordan being better than LeBron.

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I get why that's funny but you gotta admit the flip side to it is funny as well. Imagine having Larry Bird in his prime and having him only attempt 1 three a game

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Jordan's resume takes care of that on it's own.

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Is Kevin Durant better than LeBron?

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I agree with this as well, but given that hockey now only interests me around the Olympics and NHL games not at all, I can't agree on that note. As far as the NFL goes, it's kind of getting like the NBA is marketed for me. I care less and less about the teams now but have much more interest in individual players. Frankly my disgust with team owners and league "management" factors in pretty heavily now. If the Chiefs hadn't made it, I seriously doubt I'd watch a minute of the Super Bowl.

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I don't think so personally.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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This argument would be a little bit more believable if LeBron hadn't switched teams three times now in his career.

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Why not? His team was far superior to LeBrons for many years. He also beat him in the Finals 2 out of 3 with them.

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I mean, it's accurate, but just the way it's written is funny.

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I'm not getting into that argument. I'm just stating why some people think it's better to have Jerry Krause build a team around you than it is to call up your friends and do it yourself.

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What's your argument

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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lot of these fancy stats, when you get down to it, are common sense. only some people behind the curtain get access to data that we can't see.

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Right and the answer to that has nothing to do with Jordan vs LeBron and everything to do with people not liking non-competitive superstars taking the path of least resistance to an NBA title. Durant's move to GS had nothing to do with Michael Jordan and he caught even more flak for it than LeBron did when he left Cleveland to join two other HOFers in Miami.

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From an overall league perspective its a hell of a lot more compelling if teams, theoretically, through skill, luck, money and other variables, build a championship team.

Determining the next championship by which beach Giannis prefers is not compelling.

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That LeBron will never have the universal respect MJ and Kobe do because he's ditched his team 3 times (and counting) already for greener pastures and they never once left the team that drafted them (nobody gives a shit about Jordan's Wizard tenure, especially in this context). Shows a lack of competitiveness that Kobe and Jordan never would have shown.

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C'mon JOrr. It's completely different to have Krause draft players than it would have been for Barkley, Jordan, and Ewing to conspire behind closed doors to all sign with the same team.

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