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The City, the fans, the coaches, the offensive and defensive ines, the receivers, the defensive backs, the running backs, everyone, has failed Justin Fields. What happens now?

I said weeks ago Curious that people are “desirous” of Fields doing well. The question is why is (((Bersnsie))) so invested in this? Cutler never ever got this cushion. Erik Cramer makes him look like a clown by the numbers. Why? Someone answer the question?

pittmike wrote:

Cutler absolutely got a cushion like this from the Score, though. I don't remember whether he ever shit the bed like Fields has this year, but they definitely forgave a multitude of sins for a while there.

Don't do triple-parentheses.

If you fire Eberlose, who exactly are you replacing him with now?

i dont think anyone is thinking about what color the qb is

The City, the fans, the coaches, the offensive and defensive ines, the receivers, the defensive backs, the running backs, everyone, has failed Justin Fields. What happens now?

If you fire Eberlose, who exactly are you replacing him with now?

The Bears have typically had white quarterbacks other than CFL Legend Henry Burris and that time Kordell Stewart placeheld for Rex Grossman

There’s a large bloc of people who like to fight fights that have already been won.

It allows for retroactive right-side-of-history or some such nonsense.

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

The City, the fans, the coaches, the offensive and defensive ines, the receivers, the defensive backs, the running backs, everyone, has failed Justin Fields. What happens now?

Is that the message of the article?

I did not get that at all.

This Ends in Antioch wrote:

There’s a large bloc of people who like to fight fights that have already been won.

It allows for retroactive right-side-of-history or some such nonsense.

No, I think MANY were afraid to criticize Fields because of Chicago's balck quarterback history AND because they were mesmerized by his raw talent.

Everyone is guilty of struggling with change/evolution. That's why everyone thinks nearly everything that happened when they were kids or young was better.

Nas wrote:

This Ends in Antioch wrote:

There’s a large bloc of people who like to fight fights that have already been won.

It allows for retroactive right-side-of-history or some such nonsense.

I remember when I was a kid I liked #8 Vince Evans. Too bad society was too fucked up to make as cool as (((Bernsie’s))) kids to have a podcast with my union dad.

##blowme

pittmike wrote:

Nas wrote:

This Ends in Antioch wrote:

There’s a large bloc of people who like to fight fights that have already been won.

It allows for retroactive right-side-of-history or some such nonsense.

I remember when I was a kid I liked #8 Vince Evans. Too bad society was too fucked up to make as cool as (((Bernsie’s))) kids to have a podcast with my union dad.

##blowme

i think many were afraid to criticize fields because they feared getting canceled and having their careers destroyed. vince evans not mentioned by football, chicago and race experts. 30-35 starts.

That's why everyone thinks nearly everything that happened when they were kids or young was better.

Nas wrote:

That's why everyone thinks nearly everything that happened when they were kids or young was better.

I think Bobby Douglass was almost exactly the same as Fields. He sucked too.

pittmike wrote:

Author:	pittmike [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 6:34 pm ]
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https://www.audacy.com/670thescore/spor ... ss-broncos Of course…

Author:	Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 6:43 pm ]
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The City, the fans, the coaches, the offensive and defensive ines, the receivers, the defensive backs, the running backs, everyone, has failed Justin Fields. What happens now?

Author:	denisdman [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 6:45 pm ]
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Burn it all down.

Author:	veganfan21 [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 6:48 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: The City, the fans, the coaches, the offensive and defensive ines, the receivers, the defensive backs, the running backs, everyone, has failed Justin Fields. What happens now? Even on the interception his helmet visor made the bronco and bear jerseys appear similar. He wouldn't have launched it had it not been for being color blinded. Even his equipment accessories have made it hard on him. Time for him to join a team that actually wants him to succeed.

Author:	Curious Hair [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 6:53 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: The City, the fans, the coaches, the offensive and defensive ines, the receivers, the defensive backs, the running backs, everyone, has failed Justin Fields. What happens now? Rush Limbaugh got fired from ESPN for his line that the media was "desirous that a black quarterback do well" in reference to Donovan McNabb. I think there's a little of that here, but this time around, most people know better than to say it. Fields is a likable, dynamic, and talented quarterback, and that should be enough to want to see him dig the Bears out of their hole. But it's Chicago in the 2020s, so there needs to be that little extra dash of race warfare. The Bears have typically had white quarterbacks other than CFL Legend Henry Burris and that time Kordell Stewart placeheld for Rex Grossman, and bad white quarterbacks at that, so Fields isn't just refreshingly talented, he's Progress. The people who think that Fields cannot fail, he can only be failed are the ones who think they're plunging some knife through the heart of deez-and-doze Bears fans by having them be successful with a black quarterback who runs: we're doing it our way, not your way, and there's nothing you can do about it. Problem is that the situation is so dire for the Bears, having pretty much been garbage for the last 30 years, that I don't think anyone outside the media class cares about any of that nonsense. (Maybe Brogue.) Bears fans are desirous that any quarterback do well at this point, one would have to think. But at this point, I think it's obvious that Fields can fail and be failed in equal measure, and that once again, this guy is not the guy, and everyone should be able to say it by now.

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Author:	pittmike [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:00 pm ]
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I said weeks ago Curious that people are “desirous” of Fields doing well. The question is why is (((Bersnsie))) so invested in this? Cutler never ever got this cushion. Erik Cramer makes him look like a clown by the numbers. Why? Someone answer the question?

Author:	IkeSouth [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:05 pm ]
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i dont think anyone is thinking about what color the qb is

Author:	Curious Hair [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:10 pm ]
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pittmike wrote: I said weeks ago Curious that people are “desirous” of Fields doing well. The question is why is (((Bersnsie))) so invested in this? Cutler never ever got this cushion. Erik Cramer makes him look like a clown by the numbers. Why? Someone answer the question? Cutler absolutely got a cushion like this from the Score, though. I don't remember whether he ever shit the bed like Fields has this year, but they definitely forgave a multitude of sins for a while there. Don't do triple-parentheses.

Author:	pittmike [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:16 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote: pittmike wrote: I said weeks ago Curious that people are “desirous” of Fields doing well. The question is why is (((Bersnsie))) so invested in this? Cutler never ever got this cushion. Erik Cramer makes him look like a clown by the numbers. Why? Someone answer the question? Cutler absolutely got a cushion like this from the Score, though. I don't remember whether he ever shit the bed like Fields has this year, but they definitely forgave a multitude of sins for a while there. Don't do triple-parentheses. Ok I thought it was funny. I do remember Bernsie score etc were Cutler excited at the beginning. At the end however I feel I remember he is a bad guy pouty guy horrible teammate etc. fields gets no shit for being bad. Intentional grounding and interceptions ending games… crickets.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:19 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote: [(Maybe Brogue.) No maybe about it.

Author:	Caller Bob [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:24 pm ]
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If you fire Eberlose, who exactly are you replacing him with now?

Author:	Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:54 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote: If you fire Eberlose, who exactly are you replacing him with now? Who cares? Let Getsy be the interim head coach, move the QB coach to OC, and let Nathan Peterman be the player-QB coach.

Author:	Douchebag [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:55 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote: If you fire Eberlose, who exactly are you replacing him with now? Who cares? Just let a beer vendor guide this team to 0-17.

Author:	badrogue17 [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 8:11 pm ]
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IkeSouth wrote: i dont think anyone is thinking about what color the qb is Sure they dont. Until its time to criticize H1M, then its racism.

Author:	blackhawksfan [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:36 pm ]
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Is it really coaching or is it lack of talent? The Bears were 3-4 last year before Poles threw in the towel and traded Roquan Smith. They've never recovered from that. Tearing it down is the easy part!

Author:	Clawmaster [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 6:55 am ]
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There are a thousand better Bears pods/columns than this one, Lil' Danny is several weeks to a month behind the real smart fans with his rather pedestrian football thoughts, the smarties have already moved on to pondering HC/GM, FA's, and draft picks for next season. Do see the rather lonely looking Larry Holmes thing amongst the far superior options, but have never wasted time looking at it and would do the same to anything from WSCR staff other than the Olin, Herron, and Long snapper stuff, do you really need WSCR hosts doing columns in today's world where you get far superior football thoughts from so many other places? This is from the same guy that thought Nagy was a genius, rather shallow football mind, and from a station that trotted out Hub as their Bears guru for decades, skip this crap and save time. It must be really hard for Larry to watch other people doing his Bears postgame stuff, he has been relegated to recording his football takes on his phone in a closet at his apartment, this guy is hanging on to his spot by his fingertips.

Author:	Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:39 pm ]
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Didn't Cutler's first game as a Bear feature 4 INTs, one of which thrown to a DT in the red-zone? The apologizing for him started very early on WSCR. In fact I think in the span of a calendar year, Score hosts went from complaining that the offense doesn't use TEs to help block to give Cutler time, to complaining that Mike Martz's offense uses TEs exclusively to block.

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Author:	RFDC [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 8:14 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: The City, the fans, the coaches, the offensive and defensive ines, the receivers, the defensive backs, the running backs, everyone, has failed Justin Fields. What happens now? Is that the message of the article? I did not get that at all.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 8:31 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote: If you fire Eberlose, who exactly are you replacing him with now? Negative people have a problem with every potential solution.

Author:	NWsider4-3-3 [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 8:42 pm ]
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Quote: The Bears have typically had white quarterbacks other than CFL Legend Henry Burris and that time Kordell Stewart placeheld for Rex Grossman i remember when vince evans played - may have started 30-35 games, without today's rules to encourage 475 yards passing by each side and 38-34 games. no big deal about race. today, race is a big deal. who made it so?

Author:	This Ends in Antioch [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 8:51 pm ]
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There’s a large bloc of people who like to fight fights that have already been won. It allows for retroactive right-side-of-history or some such nonsense.

Author:	Nas [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 8:59 pm ]
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This Ends in Antioch wrote: There’s a large bloc of people who like to fight fights that have already been won. It allows for retroactive right-side-of-history or some such nonsense. No, I think MANY were afraid to criticize Fields because of Chicago's balck quarterback history AND because they were mesmerized by his raw talent. Everyone is guilty of struggling with change/evolution. That's why everyone thinks nearly everything that happened when they were kids or young was better.

Author:	pittmike [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:01 pm ]
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RFDC wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: The City, the fans, the coaches, the offensive and defensive ines, the receivers, the defensive backs, the running backs, everyone, has failed Justin Fields. What happens now? Is that the message of the article? I did not get that at all. Yes

Author:	pittmike [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:05 pm ]
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Nas wrote: This Ends in Antioch wrote: There’s a large bloc of people who like to fight fights that have already been won. It allows for retroactive right-side-of-history or some such nonsense. No, I think MANY were afraid to criticize Fields because of Chicago's balck quarterback history AND because they were mesmerized by his raw talent. Everyone is guilty of struggling with change/evolution. That's why everyone thinks nearly everything that happened when they were kids or young was better. I remember when I was a kid I liked #8 Vince Evans. Too bad society was too fucked up to make as cool as (((Bernsie’s))) kids to have a podcast with my union dad. ##blowme

Author:	RFDC [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:06 pm ]
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The message of the article is about the total incompetence of Eberflus.

Author:	NWsider4-3-3 [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:29 pm ]
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pittmike wrote: Nas wrote: This Ends in Antioch wrote: There’s a large bloc of people who like to fight fights that have already been won. It allows for retroactive right-side-of-history or some such nonsense. No, I think MANY were afraid to criticize Fields because of Chicago's balck quarterback history AND because they were mesmerized by his raw talent. Everyone is guilty of struggling with change/evolution. That's why everyone thinks nearly everything that happened when they were kids or young was better. I remember when I was a kid I liked #8 Vince Evans. Too bad society was too fucked up to make as cool as (((Bernsie’s))) kids to have a podcast with my union dad. ##blowme i think many were afraid to criticize fields because they feared getting canceled and having their careers destroyed. vince evans not mentioned by football, chicago and race experts. 30-35 starts.

Author:	badrogue17 [ Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:50 pm ]
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NWsider4-3-3 wrote: pittmike wrote: Nas wrote: This Ends in Antioch wrote: There’s a large bloc of people who like to fight fights that have already been won. It allows for retroactive right-side-of-history or some such nonsense. No, I think MANY were afraid to criticize Fields because of Chicago's balck quarterback history AND because they were mesmerized by his raw talent. Everyone is guilty of struggling with change/evolution. That's why everyone thinks nearly everything that happened when they were kids or young was better. I remember when I was a kid I liked #8 Vince Evans. Too bad society was too fucked up to make as cool as (((Bernsie’s))) kids to have a podcast with my union dad. ##blowme i think many were afraid to criticize fields because they feared getting canceled and having their careers destroyed. vince evans not mentioned by football, chicago and race experts. 30-35 starts. Why would criticizing him get you cancelled and your career destroyed ?

Author:	Joe Orr Road Rod [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 6:36 am ]
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Nas wrote: That's why everyone thinks nearly everything that happened when they were kids or young was better. I think Bobby Douglass was almost exactly the same as Fields. He sucked too.

Author:	badrogue17 [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 7:00 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Nas wrote: That's why everyone thinks nearly everything that happened when they were kids or young was better. I think Bobby Douglass was almost exactly the same as Fields. He sucked too. Boy do I wish you worked at the Score and uttered that thought. Just to see the other hosts on the station, texters and callers heads melt. Non-withstanding the fact its is a very accurate description.

Author:	good dolphin [ Mon Oct 02, 2023 8:07 am ]
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Curious Hair wrote: pittmike wrote: I said weeks ago Curious that people are “desirous” of Fields doing well. The question is why is (((Bersnsie))) so invested in this? Cutler never ever got this cushion. Erik Cramer makes him look like a clown by the numbers. Why? Someone answer the question? Cutler absolutely got a cushion like this from the Score, though. I don't remember whether he ever shit the bed like Fields has this year, but they definitely forgave a multitude of sins for a while there. Don't do triple-parentheses. They were heavily invested in Cutler because he came here with their approval as a ready made package. His failure was a direct indictment of the hosts' ability to discern talent, kind of like Vukovich.