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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:47 am 
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What is Goff's fascination with getting Carmelo as many shots as he can? Hasn't this proven to be a very poor way to actually have a relevant team in the NBA? I understand that Carmelo is a very skilled offensive player but the Knicks have been bad, and the Nuggets didn't exactly light the world on fire getting him the ball and letting him be "Carmelo Mother effing Anthony". In fact, the best the Knicks have looked has been when Carmelo hasn't been the only offense. Now, this seems to be a backlash about Jeremy Lin but any NBA expert who watched as much Knicks basketball as Goff would know that it wasn't just Lin who stepped up but other players. Lin had a few big shots but the actual team worked better.

So, Jason Goff, do you think a team that just has Carmelo shooting as much as possible can win an NBA title? If so, why have his teams been so far from the elite teams? I'm a Carmelo fan too but it's becoming pretty apparent that "Get the ball to Carmelo and win" isn't really working.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:57 am 
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SomeGuy wrote:
Goff is the Score's resident NBA Expert and Bulls Insider.

That's all you need to know.
I am a fan of Goff's NBA stuff in general though. He's better than anyone else on the Score.

I just don't get the Carmelo Anthony stance like he's proven himself to be so good that building your whole team around getting him the ball will make your team win a ton of games.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:03 am 
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Meatballs dont like Carmello cause he's selfish and had corn rows.

Ergo, anyone on Team Bernstein loves Melo.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:24 pm 
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I missed the part where having your best player take the most shots on the team is a bad idea?


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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
I missed the part where having your best player take the most shots on the team is a bad idea?

When your best player is shooting 40%, it's not always the best idea.

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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
I missed the part where having your best player take the most shots on the team is a bad idea?

When your best player is shooting 40%, it's not always the best idea.


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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
I missed the part where having your best player take the most shots on the team is a bad idea?

When your best player is shooting 40%, it's not always the best idea.


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exactly.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:33 pm 
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Maybe Melo shouldn't be considered the best player on that team? Everyone falls past their prime at some point.


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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Maybe Melo shouldn't be considered the best player on that team? Everyone falls past their prime at some point.

So they have two top-5 players on that team?????

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I like Jason but he is starting to wear on me with his repeated use of the phrase "I told everyone..." before bragging about some profound insight on sports that apparently only he had taken to the air with. :roll:

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spanky wrote:
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Maybe Melo shouldn't be considered the best player on that team? Everyone falls past their prime at some point.

So they have two top-5 players on that team?????


I don't know, you tell me. I wouldn't call Melo a current top-5 player, although I am sure others might.


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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
Maybe Melo shouldn't be considered the best player on that team? Everyone falls past their prime at some point.

So they have two top-5 players on that team?????


I don't know, you tell me. I wouldn't call Melo a current top-5 player, although I am sure others might.

Just setting the trap my man........

Sorry about the beating you're about to take. :D

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Sorry about the beating you're about to take. :D


Shit, you think this is new?


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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
I missed the part where having your best player take the most shots on the team is a bad idea?
Who said he shouldn't?

The point is that an offense that is focused on just getting Carmelo his shots has proven to have average results. I'm not saying Carmelo should be getting the same amount of shots as Iman Shumpert but Goff was acting like the key to Knicks dominance is Carmelo taking 35 shots a game. A casual Knicks observer like me can attest that the Knicks don't really look good when it's just the Carmelo show.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
I missed the part where having your best player take the most shots on the team is a bad idea?
Who said he shouldn't?


Well, that depends on whether you think Melo is the best player on that team or not.


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Carmello is not top 5.


Furthermore, give "Melo the Rock and let him do his thing" will never EVER work in the NBA. Jordan and Kobe couldnt even win that way.

Until he learns to play with teammates, his teams will always be bad.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Carmello is not top 5.

Awwww snap.

I know somebody that is gonna be exhausted by the time he best done with this thread.......... :lol:

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spanky wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Carmello is not top 5.

Awwww snap.

I know somebody that is gonna be exhausted by the time he best done with this thread.......... :lol:


Is it you? Along with your shit-stirring?


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Wait for it.......wait for it..........I know he can smell the chum we've been throwing in the water.

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Melo is a top 10 player...

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Are you sure? He shoots less than 40% and doesn't play well with teammates and used to have cornrows. Everyone here makes a pretty good argument that is hard to refute.

Sounds like top-50, generously.

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Melo is a top 10 player...

I would have agreed before, but if you are looking for the top 10 players that will help you win a title. Melo is not one of them.


He's a top ten scorer (at the expense of a good team offense)

His style cripples the offense and his choosing to never play D hurts as well


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spanky wrote:
Are you sure? He shoots less than 40% and doesn't play well with teammates and used to have cornrows. Everyone here makes a pretty good argument that is hard to refute.

Sounds like top-50, generously.


I see what you're doing.


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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
spanky wrote:
Are you sure? He shoots less than 40% and doesn't play well with teammates and used to have cornrows. Everyone here makes a pretty good argument that is hard to refute.

Sounds like top-50, generously.


I see what you're doing.

It didn't work. He's trying to play it all cool now. Maybe I was a little over the top? Just a smidge?

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Are you sure? He shoots less than 40% and doesn't play well with teammates and used to have cornrows. Everyone here makes a pretty good argument that is hard to refute.

Sounds like top-50, generously.

Carmelo is Larry Hughes.

End of discussion.

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Douchebag wrote:
spanky wrote:
Are you sure? He shoots less than 40% and doesn't play well with teammates and used to have cornrows. Everyone here makes a pretty good argument that is hard to refute.

Sounds like top-50, generously.

Carmelo is Larry Hughes.

End of discussion.

Larry Hughes...There's a blast from the past.


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Douchebag wrote:
Carmelo is Larry Hughes.

End of discussion.

Smart man. This seems to be the consensus.

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spanky wrote:
Are you sure? He shoots less than 40% and doesn't play well with teammates and used to have cornrows. Everyone here makes a pretty good argument that is hard to refute.

Sounds like top-50, generously.

Carmelo is Larry Hughes.

End of discussion.

Larry Hughes...There's a blast from the past.

Blast is generous. Larry Hughes was more of a sputter.

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