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 Post subject: Re: Ron Santo is Bad.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:46 am 
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Ron does contradict himself at times, no doubt, but based on his numbers compared to others he does belong in the HOF. My problem has always been the fact that he has used his health at times to campaign, which hurts him.

Frank just hates him because he was a cub, bottom line, but I am sure if he was a white sox his whole career frank would be leading the charge to get him in, thats just who frank is, Mac Jr. wannabe.


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 Post subject: Re: Ron Santo is Bad.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:47 pm 
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Ok 'Mr. I suck Mike North's Cock on a daily basis.'

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 Post subject: Re: Ron Santo is Bad.
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Santo also had two severe personality clashes with teammates, one famous, the other obscure. He sparred with Rico Carty during his brief Cubs tenure in 1973, and then clashed with **** Allen after being traded to the cross-town White Sox. Santo criticized Allen for being lazy; Allen felt that Santo was egotistical and presumptuous, leading to a stormy season on the south side in 1974."



Dick Allen's not obscure.

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 Post subject: Re: Ron Santo is Bad.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:15 pm 
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IN MY IMPORTANCE RANKINGS

1. TV Play by Play Guy (Hawk and he is terrible, especially when he is there!)
2. RADIO Play by Play Guy
3. TV Color Guy
4. Radio Color Guy - The Least important, considering most Color guys analyze a replay, doesn't work so well on radio. (Ron)


I know Ron is bad at what he is suppossed to do, but most people listen to a game via the radio in the car or somwhere else that they just expect to get the information of what is going on in the game and Pat does this as good as anyone.

Just compare Pat to Farmio. You don't know shit about Pat, who he knows, where he lives, how many times he struck out Buddy Bell. He just announces the game and keeps Ron awake.

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 Post subject: Re: Ron Santo is Bad.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:55 pm 
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You forgot third man in the Monday night booth.


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 Post subject: Re: Ron Santo is Bad.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:29 pm 
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Sheeeesh Frank, i'm losing sight of who's the bigger prick now, u or 35thstreetslick. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Ron Santo is Bad.
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Santo is the reason I'm a White Sox fan. I switched over when Santo was traded.

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 Post subject: Re: Ron Santo is Bad.
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Ok 'Mr. I suck Mike North's Cock on a daily basis.'


No, frank, I bash him everyday; sucking of ones cock would be you and your hero Mac (who I like, but I do not kiss his ass when he starts bs'ing people, unlike you). Again frank, you fail to realize that I was kidding around. You truly need to grow up, you cannot take shit, but feel that you can hand it out whenever you want and you show what a child you are with your crude comments. Try and make a mature comment once instead of "suck cock, smelly vagina" it is pathetic.

Your whole "I am an ass-hole" works for you I guess, but for people with some sense of maturity laugh at you and your obvious inability to make a point with insulting someone. Its says a lot about a person who spews insults instead of making a valid counter points and what its says, it is not good.

Frank, I am pretty sure you're replies are due to some issues you have with self-worth, but I hope you get the help you need;) (joke frank, so relax).


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 Post subject: Re: Ron Santo is Bad.
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Ron Santo was an exceptionally good player with the glove and with the bat. He was a highly competitive player, who sometimes let his desire to win, affect the way he treated teammates. Players who did not get the job done, were not tolerated by Ronnie very easily. He's a passionate follower of the team, who deserves to see the Cubs win the World Series, just as he deserves to go into the Hall of Fame. People who hate Ron Santo, do so chiefly, because in many aspects, Ron Santo is someone people associate very closely to the team. He bleeds Cubbie blue, as they say. He truely lives and breathes Baseball and it has probably kept him alive, being able to stay around the game and the players, who he truely cares about. He makes plenty of mistakes while broadcasting games, but the passion he broadcasts games with, makes the mistakes easy to overlook, or at least tolerate.

Oh, and Frank DOES have a lot of class-unfortunately, its all low...


well, it was a decent post until that...

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 Post subject: Re: Ron Santo is Bad.
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I already stated that I don't like Santo in the booth, however, I do think he is a hall a famer.

The guy put up numbers in an era when pitching dominated. Regarding his dust ups with other teamates, maybe I am wrong but wasn't Dick Allen somewhat of a diva? I would think that a quite a few players maybe had a problem with him.

And if Ron did have problems with a few teamates, when did that become the deciding factor of a players HOF worthiness. Goose Gossage got in a fight with a Yankee teamate in '79 which cost Goose sometime on the DL, which might have cost the Yankees the division.

With all that said, I won't lose sleep if he doesn't make the HOF. It's not like I am going to start a society to get him in the hall.


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 Post subject: Re: Ron Santo is Bad.
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vann it was a figure of speech. You've clearly got some obsession issues with North considering the amount of time you've spent since his show when off the air posting about him. You might be the one that needs help, not me. (this is not a joke)

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 Post subject: Re: Ron Santo is Bad.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:31 pm 
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Frank, I dont think I have to please you when and who I post about, but once you own the site, you can implement whatever rules you want. I knew wasnt a joke, because its clear you dont have a sense a humor. I dont care what you think about my posts, reply whatever way you want, but when you disagree with one of them, maybe you can refrain from being hurling insults and just try and give a reasonable reply, I have no issue with people who disagree with me, but there is a way to do it, something you havent learned about it.

I dont find my posts about pappy as a obsession, if anything, I might have more of a valid reason to do it because I am one that he wanted to sue because he said something stupid, I also recall the guy kicking people when they were down, so now he is, so its his turn to take this shit and I have no plans on stoppping. I am also well versed in how he treated people he worked with and for, so if anyone deserves it, its him.

As far as the insults we have exchanged frank, sorry, I should be above it, but when someone comes after me, I defend myself, we can battle all you want, but lets at do it in a way that doesnt remind people of what its like to be in the 4th grade.


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 Post subject: Re: Ron Santo is Bad.
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I'm not trying to implement any sort of rule here. I was just pointing out your hypocrasy. Calling me Mac Jr when over the past month or so, you've started probably at least a dozen threads about an out of work radio boob.

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 Post subject: Re: Ron Santo is Bad.
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There has been no hypocrasy on my part, I have done nothing but bash north, your comment would suggest that I do nothing but stroke him. As far as calling you mac jr., IT WAS A JOKE!!!!! :roll:


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There has been no hypocrasy on my part



Whatever helps you sleep at night. I don't root for the Cubs and I don't like Mike North, so this was all a big waste of time for me.

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 Post subject: Re: Ron Santo is Bad.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:56 am 
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Whatever helps you sleep at night.


I sleep great at night, but thanks for the concern.



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I don't root for the Cubs and I don't like Mike North, so this was all a big waste of time for me.


But here you are and you will be back :wink:


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Frank Coztansa wrote:
I don't root for the Cubs and I don't like Mike North, so this was all a big waste of time for me.

Closet case Cub fan.

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 Post subject: Re: Ron Santo is Bad.
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HEY...that used to be...oh nvm.


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Whatever helps you sleep at night. I don't root for the Cubs and I don't like Mike North, so this was all a big waste of time for me.


Then what are you doing trolling around the Cubs section?

Get OUT!!!

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Whatever helps you sleep at night. I don't root for the Cubs and I don't like Mike North, so this was all a big waste of time for me.


Then what are you doing trolling around the Cubs section?

Get OUT!!!



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