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 Post subject: Re: Jason Heyward
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Adam Eaton can also get better, yes. Adam Eaton is a few years behind Heyward. He will have his chance to leave the White Sox and get paid too.

Cubs fans already planning their next move after Heyward opts out, you guys are relentless.

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Adam Eaton can also get better, yes. Adam Eaton is a few years behind Heyward. He will have his chance to leave the White Sox and get paid too.

Not for a long time. The White Sox signed him for 5y $23.5m last offseason. Heyward will likely be a free agent again before Eaton.


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We don't want Heyward to block Eloy Jimenez, Albert Almora, Billy McKinney or Eddy Martinez.

#embarrassmentofriches

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We don't want Heyward to block Eloy Jimenez, Albert Almora, Billy McKinney or Eddy Martinez.

#embarrassmentofriches

No Brett Jackson?

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 Post subject: Re: Jason Heyward
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And what doesn't need to be said is that Heyward could still get even better.


It doesn't need to be said because it isn't likely to happen.




Do you think Rizzo gets better? Or has he peaked?










Jason is one day younger than Rizzo.

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 Post subject: Re: Jason Heyward
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We don't want Heyward to block Eloy Jimenez, Albert Almora, Billy McKinney or Eddy Martinez.

Have the Cubs cleaned up the divets in the OF left by Soler and Schwarber diving at nothing yet? Or are they going to put them in a plexiglass case?


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 Post subject: Re: Jason Heyward
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And what doesn't need to be said is that Heyward could still get even better.


It doesn't need to be said because it isn't likely to happen.




Do you think Rizzo gets better? Or has he peaked?










Jason is one day younger than Rizzo.


I don't think there is any question Rizzo has peaked.

Heyward has played on the MLB level for 6 years. He has had almost 3,500 plate appearances. The normal progression with experience doesn't apply to him because he has already hit those peak levels at an earlier age. His progression will only take place if he "trains" with Soler.

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We don't want Heyward to block Eloy Jimenez, Albert Almora, Billy McKinney or Eddy Martinez.

Have the Cubs cleaned up the divets in the OF left by Soler and Schwarber diving at nothing yet? Or are they going to put them in a plexiglass case?

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This is the most optimism I've seen in Chicago since we got Jay Cutler.


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 Post subject: Re: Jason Heyward
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23 million per year is tied for 7th highest position player in baseball behind

Cabrera
Ryan Howard
Pujols
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Cano
Texiera

how many of the teams holding those contracts are satisfied with the production?

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23 million per year is tied for 7th highest position player in baseball behind

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Texiera

how many of the teams holding those contracts are satisfied with the production?


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City of Fools wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
23 million per year is tied for 7th highest position player in baseball behind

Cabrera
Ryan Howard
Pujols
Fielder
Cano
Texiera

how many of the teams holding those contracts are satisfied with the production?


32
36
35
31
33
35

Not when they signed those contracts.


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 Post subject: Re: Jason Heyward
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Jason Heyward has played a grand total of 32 regular season MLB games in CF

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Sources: #Nationals bid $200M for Heyward. Another team, believed to be #STLCards, also was at $200M. Heyward took less to play for #Cubs.

and Zobrist also took less......

Why in the world would these guys take less money to play for The Cubs and Joe Maddon?

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THE INQUISITOR wrote:
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Sources: #Nationals bid $200M for Heyward. Another team, believed to be #STLCards, also was at $200M. Heyward took less to play for #Cubs.

and Zobrist also took less......

Why in the world would these guys take less money to play for The Cubs and Joe Maddon?

Opt out after 3. Heyward gets to get paid even more when he hits the market again at 29.


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 Post subject: Re: Jason Heyward
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America wrote:
City of Fools wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
23 million per year is tied for 7th highest position player in baseball behind

Cabrera
Ryan Howard
Pujols
Fielder
Cano
Texiera

how many of the teams holding those contracts are satisfied with the production?


32
36
35
31
33
35

Not when they signed those contracts.

I assumed dolphin meant currently. Because I'd say few teams were initially happy. How many of those contracts had an opt out after 3 years?

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 Post subject: Re: Jason Heyward
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City of Fools wrote:
America wrote:
City of Fools wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
23 million per year is tied for 7th highest position player in baseball behind

Cabrera
Ryan Howard
Pujols
Fielder
Cano
Texiera

how many of the teams holding those contracts are satisfied with the production?


32
36
35
31
33
35

Not when they signed those contracts.

I assumed dolphin meant currently. Because I'd say few teams were initially happy. How many of those contracts had an opt out after 3 years?

Cabrera and that's it. The Tigers are the only team who has at any point been happy with the stratospheric contract they handed out. Jason Heyward ain't no Miguel Cabrera either.


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 Post subject: Re: Jason Heyward
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Jason Heyward has played a grand total of 32 regular season MLB games in CF


He's going to play RF.

Soler is getting traded. Baez is going to get a shot at CF and likely somebody else they trade for.

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 Post subject: Re: Jason Heyward
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America wrote:
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America wrote:
City of Fools wrote:

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Not when they signed those contracts.

I assumed dolphin meant currently. Because I'd say few teams were initially happy. How many of those contracts had an opt out after 3 years?

Cabrera and that's it. The Tigers are the only team who has at any point been happy with the stratospheric contract they handed out. Jason Heyward ain't no Miguel Cabrera either.

he's not, but that three year clause should protect both parties.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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Jason Heyward has played a grand total of 32 regular season MLB games in CF


He's going to play RF.

Soler is getting traded. Baez is going to get a shot at CF and likely somebody else they trade for.

agreed. Someone will be out of town stupid.

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Sources: #Nationals bid $200M for Heyward. Another team, believed to be #STLCards, also was at $200M. Heyward took less to play for #Cubs.

and Zobrist also took less......

Why in the world would these guys take less money to play for The Cubs and Joe Maddon?
I love how these numbers never include the number of years.

I'd be shocked if the two teams offered $25 million a year.

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 Post subject: Re: Jason Heyward
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Sounds like its probably front-loaded if he's got a 3-year opt-out.

So, he's probably getting $25+/year for those first 3.

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 Post subject: Re: Jason Heyward
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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Jason Heyward has played a grand total of 32 regular season MLB games in CF


He's going to play RF.

Soler is getting traded. Baez is going to get a shot at CF and likely somebody else they trade for.


Put this in its proper form

"my sources tell me..."

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 Post subject: Re: Jason Heyward
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good dolphin wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Jason Heyward has played a grand total of 32 regular season MLB games in CF


He's going to play RF.

Soler is getting traded. Baez is going to get a shot at CF and likely somebody else they trade for.


Put this in its proper form

"my sources tell me..."


My sources tell me that the rumor is that the current speculation is there are strong indications that the Cubs are leaning heavily toward trading Soler.

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My sources tell me Soler stays in Chicago @ RF and JayHey plays center.

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So, they will have a DH in LF, a RF in CF, a RF at 3B and a utility player at 2B

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You can't have everybody making huge dough, Soler is locked up for like ten years @ 29 million.

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So, they will have a DH in LF, a RF in CF, a RF at 3B and a utility player at 2B

The RF in RF enjoys spending time on his face too.


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