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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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You are having lots of trouble here. Theo partly justified the contract by saying that Heyward would be playing CF. He started in CF for 21 games in 2016, 12 games in 2017, and 20 games in 2018. Now, this isn't Heyward's fault because he was never a full time CF before coming to Chicago. But as questions arose about paying $180 million to a right Fielder who is a solid player, but not a perennial All Star, that figure was justified in part by Theo saying Heyward would be playing CF.

That never happened.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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This has been the highlight of his Cubs career:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8m2hlrRAC8

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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You are having lots of trouble here. Theo partly justified the contract by saying that Heyward would be playing CF. He started in CF for 21 games in 2016, 12 games in 2017, and 20 games in 2018. Now, this isn't Heyward's fault because he was never a full time CF before coming to Chicago. But as questions arose about paying $180 million to a right Fielder who is a solid player, but not a perennial All Star, that figure was justified in part by Theo saying Heyward would be playing CF.

That never happened.

This is dumb on a couple different levels.
First, the talk of Heyward being signed to play center field was largely because Fowler was expected to be gone in December. A curious mind might remember that Fowler suddenly signed with the cubs in a one year deal during spring training. So Heyward wasn't going to be the everyday centerfielder any more. He'd stick with his natural position.
Beginning in 2017 Almora was generally patrolling center field. So again, Heyward was able to play his natural position.

Frank, I'd like to think you're just fucking around and you didn't mean this in any kind of serious sense. Because it is completely senseless and without any real thinking. If you want to say Theo sold a bill of goods that he didn't try that he talked about Heyward like he'd be a 290 guy with 20+ a year.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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Also he didn't justify shit with the money he spent on him. Heyward had at least 2 other offers for 20 million or so more. Theo did pay less than he was even offered by his current team at the time.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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Heyward WAS Fowler's replacement.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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Heyward WAS Fowler's replacement.

No shit. Then Fowler came back. That's why he hasn't been in center and played his natural position.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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Swindled.

I know you really don't believe the shit that's falling out of your mouth.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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If you dont want to believe facts, thats fine

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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If you dont want to believe facts, thats fine

You're a dope.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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A dope who's laying the truth down in this thread


white sox are losing.......frank posts in cubs threads.......


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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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I've been wang whipping people all goddam day in this thread, you waste of carbon. Go eat out your HIV+ crackhead friend.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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I've been wang whipping people all goddam day in this thread, you waste of carbon. Go eat out your HIV+ crackhead friend.

You really haven't. You sound like you have no clue what you're talking about. So much so that I'm convinced you're just fucking around for like cheap laughs or something.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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Im sorry you dont understand facts.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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Im sorry you dont understand facts.



Here is a fact - turn on the Sox game, and see that POS Moncada fucking up another easy play with a guy that I can run faster than down first.


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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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Im sorry you dont understand facts.

Ok.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
I've been wang whipping people all goddam day in this thread, you waste of carbon. Go eat out your HIV+ crackhead friend.

You really haven't. You sound like you have no clue what you're talking about. So much so that I'm convinced you're just fucking around for like cheap laughs or something.

Have you just met Frank?

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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Heyward makes cub fans say the f word

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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There was this idea perpetuated on the Score and by some around here that fans should not worry about the size of a player’s contract because it is not our money. Then the reality of the competitive balance tax’s repeat offender penalty became apparent forcing the big spending teams to drop below the threshold.

So in a non cap world, Heyward’s contract size would not be that big of an issue. But when you cannot keep spending above the threshold due to increasing penalties, the Cubs have and will lose players they would otherwise have the dollars to keep.

Heyward is a nice guy and well spoken so it is hard to dislike him. He looks like he should be able to hit the ball 500 feet. But he always appears to be guessing at the plate and rarely makes hard contact.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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184 mil with mostly his Cubs offensive slash line well below league average (including pichers hitting). He's a nice guy over, and over, and over again. The nice guy narrative gets beat to death with him. Google the mansions the nice guy lives in for being a bust. Why the Heyward nice guy barrage. The town is full of pro athlete nice guys who never get one mention.

The Heyward Theo CF argument was entertaining. But, Theo flip-flops quite often. I'm surprised Theo didn't praise Heyward for his breakfast cereal choice he loves him so much.


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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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I mention the nice guy because that makes him difficult to hate. Nothing more. He is overpaid. He underperforms.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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The Heyward Theo CF argument was entertaining.
It wasn't an argument. When speaking to the media, and thus Cubs fans, Theo justified the amount of the contract to a one time All Star in part due to Heyward playing centerfield. Fact.

Darkside can name call as much as he wants, but this is what happened in reality.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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The Heyward Theo CF argument was entertaining.
It wasn't an argument. When speaking to the media, and thus Cubs fans, Theo justified the amount of the contract to a one time All Star in part due to Heyward playing centerfield. Fact.

Darkside can name call as much as he wants, but this is what happened in reality.

He didn't justify shit. He paid him less than the team he was already playing for offered him.

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One good thing about the Heyward bad contract negative impact on the Cubs whole organization is it's there for Rick Hahn to see. The current Sox run for excellence doesn't have anything near this bad money disaster. The Cubs are toast, so it doesn't really matter anymore, except for comedy.


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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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He didn't justify shit. He paid him less than the team he was already playing for offered him.
Theo absolutely did. Google it if you want. I already posted proof in this thread.

You're either BRicking this thread, remembering incorrectly, or just being an ass. All are plauible.

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 Post subject: Re: Heyward sucks
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He didn't justify shit. He paid him less than the team he was already playing for offered him.
Theo absolutely did. Google it if you want. I already posted proof in this thread.

You're either BRicking this thread, remembering incorrectly, or just being an ass. All are plauible.

If he was so set on Heyward playing center why did he resign Fowler?

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Why are you asking me that question? Maybe because it was Spring Training and Fowler was still sitting out there as a free ajent? I don't know.

Regardless, I have only been talking about what Theo said in December 2015 when he gave a one time All Star a $180 million contract. He justified it, partly, by saying that Heyward would be playing CF. That is a fact.

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