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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:31 pm 
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Cubs need to save money for Bryce Harper or Manny Machado.

2018 will be a consolidation year. Trade some of the hitting depth like Schwarber, get out from under Zobrists contract, figure out if Edwards can close and Montgomery start 25 times.

If the deal was Verlander for Almora, I'd rather have Quintana and the extra money.

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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:13 pm 
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Add the yanks to list imu and any other knucklehead that didnt want verlander here.

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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:19 pm 
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Dude is a throw back for sure. Dominant in the big games. Still real big cash and a prospect load so if Q delivers, gotta prefer that move. But if he is a bust vs LA then you could argue not getting Verlander means no 2nd title.


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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:21 pm 
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I dont know if Verlander would have fit in like he does w/ the Astros. We got enough vets here.


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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
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HawaiiYou wrote:
I dont know if Verlander would have fit in like he does w/ the Astros. We got enough vets here.


He'd have fit fine. He wanted to be here but they passed. Calculated risk still looking good if Q delivers.


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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:36 pm 
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Detroit didnt want much..candelario probably does it. Not an either or thing..get Q and Verlander ..Jake and Lackey are gone in 3 weeks..thats 35 million per year off books..covers Q and JV.

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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
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HawaiiYou wrote:
I dont know if Verlander would have fit in like he does w/ the Astros. We got enough vets here.




He'd be our Ace.

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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
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They wanted a 25 man roster guy. They should have told Alex Parkman to have his dad lower his asking price.

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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
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Detroit didnt want much..candelario probably does it. Not an either or thing..get Q and Verlander ..Jake and Lackey are gone in 3 weeks..thats 35 million per year off books..covers Q and JV.


No way. Houston gave up a pretty good package of prospects. I wanted him though. And he'd look damn good too.


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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
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312player wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
I dont know if Verlander would have fit in like he does w/ the Astros. We got enough vets here.




He'd be our Ace.



Guess you were right. 9-0 w/ the Astros.


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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:56 am 
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I had three rooting interests this post season:

1. Quintana wins game 7 of the WS, JORR hangs himself
2. Some team goes 11-1 or better, a human pussy hangs himself
3. Verlander wins a WS title, Shithead Steve hangs his whole family.



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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
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I wonder if the same package for Quintana would have gotten Verlander.

OMG....for sure. A big part of the Verlander deal was the amount of money owed him. They probably could have gotten him without Dylan Cease being included. The Quintana deal was made in large part with his club friendly deal in mind. No doubt, Verlander has performed very well and had the Cubs known he would perform at this level, rather than the more pedestrian level he had been at with Detroit, they might have made that deal. Hard to predict such a dramatic improvement for an athlete that appeared to be in decline.


Decline? He finished second in the AL CY Young voting 9 months ago shit for brains.


Yeah asswipe and this season he was basically a .500 pitcher with Detroit with an ERA of a middle of the rotation starter. That's what they call decline dipshit.


An example of a know it all with all the wrong answers...


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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:03 am 
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Championship window though. Even the good teams have to rebuild. Quintana will probably be better than Verlander in 2019, but will it matter?

I'd feel a lot better with

Verlander
Hendricks
Lester
Arrieta


But whatever. Go Cubs.




Do you think we beat LA with him?

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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
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Verlander with the Tigers

Tigers finished 64-98 .395 WPct

what's that, 34 games below .500?

Verlander with the Tigers pre-trade:

10-8 3.82 ERA (American League ERA) on a team with the WORST defense in MLB

pretty good numbers on a shite team (34 games below .500) with clowns in the field

apparently Theo's big brains in the Cubs front office couldn't separate the wheat from the chaff in terms of Verlander's likely value on a better team with an above league average defense.

Absolutely nothing unforeseeable about Verlander posting much improved numbers going from a last place team with butchers in the field to a first place team with top-shelf defense.


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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:27 am 
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Hussra wrote:
Verlander with the Tigers

Tigers finished 64-98 .395 WPct

what's that, 34 games below .500?

Verlander with the Tigers pre-trade:

10-8 3.82 ERA (American League ERA) on a team with the WORST defense in MLB

pretty good numbers on a shite team (34 games below .500) with clowns in the field

apparently Theo's big brains in the Cubs front office couldn't separate the wheat from the chaff in terms of Verlander's likely value on a better team with an above league average defense.

Absolutely nothing unforeseeable about Verlander posting much improved numbers going from a last place team with butchers in the field to a first place team with top-shelf defense.




Agreed..but do you think Verlander leads the team past LA?

I dont, i still think we lose to L.A. .. The bats never showed up, so in hindsight..it probably good we didnt sign him.

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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:36 am 
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Cubs scored 8 runs in games 1 through 5 vs Dodgers?

Astros scored 9 runs in games 1-5 vs Yankees.

Not a huge difference in offensive production.

Having Verlander maybe pushes the series to a game 6, which late in Game 6 is when the Astros bats finally came alive. Maybe the Cubs bats finally wake up back in warmer LA for games 6/7.


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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:21 pm 
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312player wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Championship window though. Even the good teams have to rebuild. Quintana will probably be better than Verlander in 2019, but will it matter?

I'd feel a lot better with

Verlander
Hendricks
Lester
Arrieta


But whatever. Go Cubs.




Do you think we beat LA with him?

Nah. Not with that bullpen. Maybe push em to 6 games though.


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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:45 pm 
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Bumped wrong thread..my bad.. this is for you sirtinkle

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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
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312player wrote:
Bumped wrong thread..my bad.. this is for you sirtinkle


What a whiff. 2017 was a rough year for Theo. At least you had the right baseball thoughts.


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 Post subject: Re: Verlander to Cubs
PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 11:24 am 
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