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Ultimately, I don't care about the "why" either. Whether he's a flawed pitcher or a remarkably unlucky guy, I don't want him on my team.

Right. It's that simple. This endless debate is nuts.

Well, JLN is nuts.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
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Ultimately, I don't care about the "why" either. Whether he's a flawed pitcher or a remarkably unlucky guy, I don't want him on my team.

Right. It's that simple. This endless debate is nuts.

Well, JLN is nuts.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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Ultimately, I don't care about the "why" either. Whether he's a flawed pitcher or a remarkably unlucky guy, I don't want him on my team.

Right. It's that simple. This endless debate is nuts.

Well, JLN is nuts.


Legume, actually.


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Completely agree with JLN



You agree that Quintana is cursed but try to couch it as "science". At least you don't post graphs.


Is your counter-argument to the premise that "Jose Quintana received run support from his team not even commensurate with that of Chris Sale, even when the two pitched similar games" really so silly as "Well, that would have to be some kind of curse or something, so I'm going to ignore all those things that actually happened because of my personal incredulity"?

Ok, JORR, you're right, all those games didn't actually occur within the confines and contexts of themselves. What really happened to explain the differences in run support we saw?


Considering we're discussing a 300+ game sample between the two pitchers with both men "supported" by the same basic lineups I think it's much more reasonable to believe that there is a relationship between the relatively low number of runs allowed by bofh Quintana and his opponents in those games than to think that Quintana is just incredibly unlucky.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Completely agree with JLN



You agree that Quintana is cursed but try to couch it as "science". At least you don't post graphs.


Is your counter-argument to the premise that "Jose Quintana received run support from his team not even commensurate with that of Chris Sale, even when the two pitched similar games" really so silly as "Well, that would have to be some kind of curse or something, so I'm going to ignore all those things that actually happened because of my personal incredulity"?

Ok, JORR, you're right, all those games didn't actually occur within the confines and contexts of themselves. What really happened to explain the differences in run support we saw?


Considering we're discussing a 300+ game sample between the two pitchers with both men "supported" by the same basic lineups I think it's much more reasonable to believe that there is a relationship between the relatively low number of runs allowed by bofh Quintana and his opponents in those games than to think that Quintana is just incredibly unlucky.


I know where you're going with this, so I'll jump a step: Why did pitchers opposing Chris Sale allow more runs than pitchers opposing Jose Quintana?


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Completely agree with JLN



You agree that Quintana is cursed but try to couch it as "science". At least you don't post graphs.


Is your counter-argument to the premise that "Jose Quintana received run support from his team not even commensurate with that of Chris Sale, even when the two pitched similar games" really so silly as "Well, that would have to be some kind of curse or something, so I'm going to ignore all those things that actually happened because of my personal incredulity"?

Ok, JORR, you're right, all those games didn't actually occur within the confines and contexts of themselves. What really happened to explain the differences in run support we saw?


Considering we're discussing a 300+ game sample between the two pitchers with both men "supported" by the same basic lineups I think it's much more reasonable to believe that there is a relationship between the relatively low number of runs allowed by bofh Quintana and his opponents in those games than to think that Quintana is just incredibly unlucky.


I know where you're going with this, so I'll jump a step: Why did pitchers opposing Chris Sale allow more runs than pitchers opposing Jose Quintana?



I don't know. Every game has its own set of conditions.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Ultimately, I don't care about the "why" either. Whether he's a flawed pitcher or a remarkably unlucky guy, I don't want him on my team.

Right. It's that simple. This endless debate is nuts.

Well, JLN is nuts.


Legume, actually.


Hey everybody! JLN is from that family that beat up the 1st base coach! What a dick!


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God has a somewhat arbitrary dislike for Quintana, much like the dude from Rocky 1 who tells Balboa to take his retarded girlfriend to the zoo.

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Quintana is consistently decent.


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Just being real, but yeah, we probably would have been better off doing the Sonny Gray trade with lesser prospects.


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Just a taste of Goldschmidt is all.

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What a great stat. He has a better outcome giving up 6 runs in five innings compared to 2 in 7.


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And he won't get a loss today either.



He won't get a win either, will he? You may be starting to understand how pitcher's wins and losses work. You're suddenly not talking about his "run support". Very strange.

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What a great stat. He has a better outcome giving up 6 runs in five innings compared to 2 in 7.


He has no outcome. His winning percentage is unaffected.

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What a great stat. He has a better outcome giving up 6 runs in five innings compared to 2 in 7.


He has no outcome. His winning percentage is unaffected.

Breaking news. No loss is not better than a loss.

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Joe Orr stuck on his numbers and ignoring the play on the field. Q had the TWTW today and brought his team to the lead. Stuff your numbers and watch the game. Q wanted it more.


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Joe Orr stuck on his numbers and ignoring the play on the field. Q had the TWTW today and brought his team to the lead. Stuff your numbers and watch the game. Q wanted it more.


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Get your head out of the numbers and start enjoying the game, the nuances, the intanbiles, the comradery. Winning. That's all that matters.


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Congrats on the no decision Cubbie Nation?

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No Quintana gave up the lead!!!!

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Joe Orr stuck on his numbers and ignoring the play on the field. Q had the TWTW today and brought his team to the lead. Stuff your numbers and watch the game. Q wanted it more.



Oops! Quintana apparently just surrendered the lead again. :lol:

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That's on Edwards and Justin Willson. Seem the Tigers import is having trouble with the vastly superior NL.


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