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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:49 am 
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He may re-injure it. Who knows? He's good enough to give it a go, quite obviously.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:49 am 
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Nas is making all time dumb comments right now. Arrieta was one of the top pitchers in all of baseball in the 2nd half, and his injury was as minor as it gets.


That isn't a minor injury and you don't want a Game 1 starter fresh off the DL with no rehab starts.

Didn't he pitch against Milwaukee 4 days ago?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:55 am 
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I think it's clear Nas missed the Arrieta game


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The bandwagon is pretty full Nas, but you're def welcome aboard... Again.

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I think it's clear Nas missed the Arrieta game


I didn't. Hopefully he pitches great and I'm wrong about him against the Nationals.

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The bandwagon is pretty full Nas, but you're def welcome aboard... Again.


:lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:02 am 
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Nas wrote:
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I think it's clear Nas missed the Arrieta game


I didn't. Hopefully he pitches great and I'm wrong about him against the Nationals.

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Do you trust Arrieta after being off so long? If you plan on starting him in Game 1 he will only have 1 more regular season start. I'm not sure if that's enough. I would probably leave him off or give him Game 3.

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Jake will have 2 starts. Pitching Tuesday and Sunday. Then he would be ready for the opener on Friday.

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Lackey over Quintana is an insane idea.

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you say that now. You might not say that then.

I don't believe in Quintana until he shows me he can win under playoff pressure. This is true of any pitcher.

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you say that now. You might not say that then.

I don't believe in Quintana until he shows me he can win under playoff pressure. This is true of any pitcher.

... because yesterday shows nothing? If you were managing the Dodgers, you'd leave Kershaw off of the playoff roster, I'm sure.

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IMU wrote:
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you say that now. You might not say that then.

I don't believe in Quintana until he shows me he can win under playoff pressure. This is true of any pitcher.

... because yesterday shows nothing? If you were managing the Dodgers, you'd leave Kershaw off of the playoff roster, I'm sure.

Arrieta
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R/L/R/L


I can live with that.

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you say that now. You might not say that then.

I don't believe in Quintana until he shows me he can win under playoff pressure. This is true of any pitcher.

... because yesterday shows nothing? If you were managing the Dodgers, you'd leave Kershaw off of the playoff roster, I'm sure.

Arrieta
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R/L/R/L


I can live with that.

I like it because it means Quintana pitches the clinching games of the NLCS and WS.

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"You mean the one with the numbers on it and the letters L-R-L-R-L-R-L."

"That's it, that's it, yes, yes where is it?"

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IMU wrote:
City of Fools wrote:
you say that now. You might not say that then.

I don't believe in Quintana until he shows me he can win under playoff pressure. This is true of any pitcher.

... because yesterday shows nothing? If you were managing the Dodgers, you'd leave Kershaw off of the playoff roster, I'm sure.

Arrieta
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R/L/R/L

I wouldn't because hitters only hit .229 against him in the playoffs. You're not arguing with JORR here.

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I wouldn't because hitters only hit .229 against him in the playoffs. You're not arguing with JORR here.

Neither are you. Please tell me how he has done in deciding games in the postseason. You cannot talk about Jose Quintana's inability to pitch successfully with postseason pressure when he has had zero postseason starts. You cannot defend Clayton Kershaw's ability to pitch successfully with postseason pressure when he has pitched awfully anytime he pitches late in a postseason series.

Jose Quintana, in 1 career game(s) with huge postseason implications, pitched a 3-hit CG shutout. In September, in the middle of a heated playoff race, he has a 1.63 ERA, a .534 OPS against and 31 strikeouts versus 4 walks.

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Arrieta
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Then we'll see where we're at


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Arrieta
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Then we'll see where we're at


That locks you into a pair of lefties though. Horseteeth isn't starting.

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Then we'll see where we're at


That locks you into a pair of lefties though
. Horseteeth isn't starting.

I see no issue with that.


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Despite his struggles in the playoffs I would take Kershaw over every Cubs pitcher.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Arrieta
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Then we'll see where we're at


That locks you into a pair of lefties though
. Horseteeth isn't starting.

I see no issue with that.


Against Washington

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Despite his struggles in the playoffs I would take Kershaw over every Cubs pitcher.

Me too.

It's like Peyton Manning. Eventually with that many appearances, he'll become what he is...dominant.


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Nas wrote:
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Arrieta
Hendricks


Then we'll see where we're at


That locks you into a pair of lefties though
. Horseteeth isn't starting.

I see no issue with that.


Against Washington

Im not sure what point you guys are making but Im not putting a worse LHP in a higher spot solely by virtue of being LHP


Quintana is the 2 or 3. Lester is 4.


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I wouldn't because hitters only hit .229 against him in the playoffs. You're not arguing with JORR here.

Neither are you. Please tell me how he has done in deciding games in the postseason. You cannot talk about Jose Quintana's inability to pitch successfully with postseason pressure when he has had zero postseason starts. You cannot defend Clayton Kershaw's ability to pitch successfully with postseason pressure when he has pitched awfully anytime he pitches late in a postseason series.

Jose Quintana, in 1 career game(s) with huge postseason implications, pitched a 3-hit CG shutout. In September, in the middle of a heated playoff race, he has a 1.63 ERA, a .534 OPS against and 31 strikeouts versus 4 walks.

:scratch: I'm not defending Kershaw. But he hasn't pitched that poorly in the postseason. Look at the important stats. If Quintana pitches as well as Kershaw in the playoffs, I'll be happy. Doesn't mean he'll win.

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City of Fools wrote:
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I wouldn't because hitters only hit .229 against him in the playoffs. You're not arguing with JORR here.

Neither are you. Please tell me how he has done in deciding games in the postseason. You cannot talk about Jose Quintana's inability to pitch successfully with postseason pressure when he has had zero postseason starts. You cannot defend Clayton Kershaw's ability to pitch successfully with postseason pressure when he has pitched awfully anytime he pitches late in a postseason series.

Jose Quintana, in 1 career game(s) with huge postseason implications, pitched a 3-hit CG shutout. In September, in the middle of a heated playoff race, he has a 1.63 ERA, a .534 OPS against and 31 strikeouts versus 4 walks.

:scratch: I'm not defending Kershaw. But he hasn't pitched that poorly in the postseason. Look at the important stats. If Quintana pitches as well as Kershaw in the playoffs, I'll be happy. Doesn't mean he'll win.

The important stats are how many runs you give up. If we're comparing two pitchers with a 3 something ERA...then we can talk about WHIP, OPS against, K/BB and other stats to get a sense of how to predict the trajectories of both. But we are talking about a pitcher with a 2.35 career ERA in the regular season and a 4.55 ERA (over 89 innings!) in the postseason.

If Quintana pitches to a 4.55 ERA in the postseason and craps down his pants and into his socks in any Game 4 or later start, I will be unhappy. If you are happy, then you need to review what you expect out of your favorite team and its players.

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IMU wrote:
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I wouldn't because hitters only hit .229 against him in the playoffs. You're not arguing with JORR here.

Neither are you. Please tell me how he has done in deciding games in the postseason. You cannot talk about Jose Quintana's inability to pitch successfully with postseason pressure when he has had zero postseason starts. You cannot defend Clayton Kershaw's ability to pitch successfully with postseason pressure when he has pitched awfully anytime he pitches late in a postseason series.

Jose Quintana, in 1 career game(s) with huge postseason implications, pitched a 3-hit CG shutout. In September, in the middle of a heated playoff race, he has a 1.63 ERA, a .534 OPS against and 31 strikeouts versus 4 walks.

:scratch: I'm not defending Kershaw. But he hasn't pitched that poorly in the postseason. Look at the important stats. If Quintana pitches as well as Kershaw in the playoffs, I'll be happy. Doesn't mean he'll win.

The important stats are how many runs you give up. If we're comparing two pitchers with a 3 something ERA...then we can talk about WHIP, OPS against, K/BB and other stats to get a sense of how to predict the trajectories of both. But we are talking about a pitcher with a 2.35 career ERA in the regular season and a 4.55 ERA (over 89 innings!) in the postseason.

If Quintana pitches to a 4.55 ERA in the postseason and craps down his pants and into his socks in any Game 4 or later start, I will be unhappy. If you are happy, then you need to review what you expect out of your favorite team and its players.


You can't NOT believe in clutch and then say Clayton Kershaw sucks in the playoffs. It will normalize, given enough time, unless you DO believe in clutch.

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Kershaw has pitched on 3 days rest so much too, it skews the comparisons.


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