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 Post subject: Cubs sign Darvish!!
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IT’S HAPPENING! Cubs Reporting Agree to Six-Year Deal with Yu Darvish! http://www.bleachernation.com/2018/02/1 ... u-darvish/

The Cubs and Yu Darvish have agreed to terms a contract that will bring the righty to Chicago, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports on Twitter. The deal guarantees Darvish $126MM over six years (though the total value can reportedly reach $150MM), and is pending a physical.

With Darvish in the fold alongside Jon Lester, Jose Quintana, Kyle Hendricks and Tyler Chatwood, the reigning NL Central champs will have one of the more complete (and formidable) rotations in all of baseball. Last season, Darvish was the majors’ 16th-best pitcher by fWAR and 12th-best in terms of strikeouts per nine innings. Though the rival Brewers made some big moves earlier in the winter, this response by the Cubs would appear to cement their place as favorites to win the NL Central pennant for the third consecutive season.


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Shockingly cheap. I guess the market for him never really came together.


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!
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Shockingly cheap. I guess the market for him never really came together.


Agreed - 21AAV!!


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i guess if you get another WS title with him helping... you can live with the final 2-3 years of james shields'esqe production


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Sources: Chances of Darvish getting to $150M with #Cubs quite slim; would need to win multiple Cy Young awards. His guarantee is $126M over six years, making contract the longest and richest free-agent deal of off-season.
2:03 PM - Feb 10, 2018


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!
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3 years too many. Not a good signing.


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!
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And we got his catcher ready to go as well.

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Will be interesting to see what Jake signs for now.

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This signing is the turning point for the Cubs.


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So basically 21 million per year guaranteed. With the chance to get bonuses for performance. That is cheap.

But the bad news is in 3 years your gonna have to pay Bryant, Rizzo, Baez and Russell. You'll still have a bad Heyward on the books and maybe a bad Darvish. Both making 21 million.


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That deal will look bad by year 3 :lol:

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Then again, ticket prices will raise every year and Rickets will have his own TV network. So he can afford every starter making 20-25 million in 3 years.


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3 years too many. Not a good signing.
I have to agree. Except that the Cubs have the cash to spend and he will be a solid #3 type starter. He will help keep you in front of the Brews/Cards. Of course, as we all know he runs out of gas late in the season, so I expect the braintrust will keep that in mind.

I'm sure Yu is thrilled not to have to participate in that free agent league they started! :lol:


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Darvish about 8 months older than Lester when he signed with Cubs. Lester made $29 million more. 5 seasons leading up to FA ...
Lester: 74-51, 3.54 ERA, 1,038 IP. Coming off 16-11, 32 starts, 2.46 ERA
Darvish: 56-42, 3.42 ERA, 832 1/3 IP. Coming off 10-12, 31 starts, 3.86 ERA

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If he comes with someone who'll pitch the 1st inning for him it changes everything.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs sign Darvish!!
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So now this means Arrietta signs rather quickly now that Darvish sets the market. He'll get a little less than Darvish. Maybe 5 years at 18 or 19 per year.


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Then again, ticket prices will raise every year and Rickets will have his own TV network. So he can afford every starter making 20-25 million in 3 years.

The TV network will never happen. The Dodger's fiasco showed that cable companies will not add new channels during an era of cord cutting, plus there is no Winter partner for them.

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Even at a deflated price it puts the value of quintanas contract into perspective

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I wonder if he will be as “tired” as Jon Lester after a run to the world series

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Watch Arrieta go to the Brewers or Cardinals.


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Watch Arrieta go to the Brewers or Cardinals.

He will go to whoever offers him the most money, logo on the uniform and city be damned. I guess that's his right, and I applaud him for sticking to his guns and doing that.

Likewise, a tip of the hat to Cubs for saying "here's our deal take it or leave it."

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Dodgers could be in play for Jake now as well.

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The Phils have also been mentioned as a suitor for Jake given they have tons of cash to spend.


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Dodgers could be in play for Jake now as well.


Same thing I was thinking.


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Watch Arrieta go to the Brewers or Cardinals.

He will go to whoever offers him the most money, logo on the uniform and city be damned. I guess that's his right, and I applaud him for sticking to his guns and doing that.

Likewise, a tip of the hat to Cubs for saying "here's our deal take it or leave it."


I don't view it that way...I think the Cubs were the ones who caved.

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Beardown wrote:
Watch Arrieta go to the Brewers or Cardinals.

He will go to whoever offers him the most money, logo on the uniform and city be damned. I guess that's his right, and I applaud him for sticking to his guns and doing that.

Likewise, a tip of the hat to Cubs for saying "here's our deal take it or leave it."


I don't view it that way...I think the Cubs were the ones who caved.


I'm leaning this way also. I didn't think they were in on any pitcher for 6 years.


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Yea Cubs settled a bit. There's a lot wrong with Darvish, but still the money is so low its worth the risk.


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Supposedly the contract has opt outs after years 2 and 3 plus a full NTC


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If the Sox make this deal....too old too many years.I can see 3 starters on the DL for the Cubs :shock:

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