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They got him batting .291??? this year

and I can tell you that .291 from the BP guys is top 5% or maybe better

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They got him batting .291??? this year

and I can tell you that .291 from the BP guys is top 5% or maybe better


No way, Pie hits .291

I'd say he'd be lucky to hit about .260


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He might hit .291 in Des Moines.

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Until I see him string together a couple good months I don't think it's too likely he hits even .280. I got him pegged for about .242, if he stays in the bigs (and .242 usually don't cut it for a CF).

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.291 seems a bit optimistic, but until he actually gets to start regularly and starts getting every day at-bats, i still have no idea what the guy can do. i hope for more than .250, but i dont think it IMPOSSIBLE for him to hit .280 or better. let him play every day, and lets find out.


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I see my Sox fans love to post in the Cubs section quite a bit. lol

And Yes, I agree .291 is a stretch, like I said, it is even more a stretch when you look at the very very few players they have hitting over .290.

Going to say my guys at BP should be passing the Dutchie now!

If they are right or even close on this one, they deserve big accolades.

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man of few opinions wrote:
.291 seems a bit optimistic, but until he actually gets to start regularly and starts getting every day at-bats, i still have no idea what the guy can do. i hope for more than .250, but i dont think it IMPOSSIBLE for him to hit .280 or better. let him play every day, and lets find out.


Hitting seems to be his weakness right now. Defensively, he should be fine, he can steal bases, bunt, etc. I think if he can do those things, and hit above .260, the Cubs will be fine in CF.


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I see my Sox fans love to post in the Cubs section quite a bit. lol

And Yes, I agree .291 is a stretch, like I said, it is even more a stretch when you look at the very very few players they have hitting over .290.

Going to say my guys at BP should be passing the Dutchie now!

If they are right or even close on this one, they deserve big accolades.


I'm an objective White Sox fan.

I look at the Cubs, and I see issues with the pitching staff primarily. I just don't know if Dempster and Lieber (assuming they are the #3 and #5 starters with Hill still at #4 over Marquis/Marshall) are going to be conistent starters. In that bullpen, I like most of it, except the Kerry Wood closing possibility.


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bigfan wrote:
I see my Sox fans love to post in the Cubs section quite a bit. lol

And Yes, I agree .291 is a stretch, like I said, it is even more a stretch when you look at the very very few players they have hitting over .290.

Going to say my guys at BP should be passing the Dutchie now!

If they are right or even close on this one, they deserve big accolades.


I'm an objective White Sox fan.

I look at the Cubs, and I see issues with the pitching staff primarily. I just don't know if Dempster and Lieber (assuming they are the #3 and #5 starters with Hill still at #4 over Marquis/Marshall) are going to be conistent starters. In that bullpen, I like most of it, except the Kerry Wood closing possibility.


Can you put objectivity and a White Sox fan in the same sentence snce 2005???

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I grew up close to Comiskey, so I did go to more Sox games growing up, but I think if you live in Chicago you can't help watching Cubs games.

My fellow Sox fans always have felt neglected and that is why they lash out about everything. because it is our/their team. It's like fat stupid pledges, only we can do that to our pledges.

but if Pie hits .290, the Cubs should know it is their year, because I just don't see it.

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HappyHour Jason wrote:
BD wrote:
bigfan wrote:
I see my Sox fans love to post in the Cubs section quite a bit. lol

And Yes, I agree .291 is a stretch, like I said, it is even more a stretch when you look at the very very few players they have hitting over .290.

Going to say my guys at BP should be passing the Dutchie now!

If they are right or even close on this one, they deserve big accolades.


I'm an objective White Sox fan.

I look at the Cubs, and I see issues with the pitching staff primarily. I just don't know if Dempster and Lieber (assuming they are the #3 and #5 starters with Hill still at #4 over Marquis/Marshall) are going to be conistent starters. In that bullpen, I like most of it, except the Kerry Wood closing possibility.


Can you put objectivity and a White Sox fan in the same sentence snce 2005???


Absolutely.


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BD wrote:
HappyHour Jason wrote:
BD wrote:
bigfan wrote:
I see my Sox fans love to post in the Cubs section quite a bit. lol

And Yes, I agree .291 is a stretch, like I said, it is even more a stretch when you look at the very very few players they have hitting over .290.

Going to say my guys at BP should be passing the Dutchie now!

If they are right or even close on this one, they deserve big accolades.


I'm an objective White Sox fan.

I look at the Cubs, and I see issues with the pitching staff primarily. I just don't know if Dempster and Lieber (assuming they are the #3 and #5 starters with Hill still at #4 over Marquis/Marshall) are going to be conistent starters. In that bullpen, I like most of it, except the Kerry Wood closing possibility.


Can you put objectivity and a White Sox fan in the same sentence snce 2005???


Absolutely.


"White Sox fans, objective since 2005" :wink: :lol:

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Regular Reader wrote:
BD wrote:
HappyHour Jason wrote:
BD wrote:
bigfan wrote:
I see my Sox fans love to post in the Cubs section quite a bit. lol

And Yes, I agree .291 is a stretch, like I said, it is even more a stretch when you look at the very very few players they have hitting over .290.

Going to say my guys at BP should be passing the Dutchie now!

If they are right or even close on this one, they deserve big accolades.


I'm an objective White Sox fan.

I look at the Cubs, and I see issues with the pitching staff primarily. I just don't know if Dempster and Lieber (assuming they are the #3 and #5 starters with Hill still at #4 over Marquis/Marshall) are going to be conistent starters. In that bullpen, I like most of it, except the Kerry Wood closing possibility.


Can you put objectivity and a White Sox fan in the same sentence snce 2005???


Absolutely.


"White Sox fans, objective since 2005" :wink: :lol:


I can only speak for myself.


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He might hit .291 in Des Moines.


Yea, but if he were to be traded to the white sox, frank would raise it another ten points and then go buy his jersey. I love how Frank has a complete fricken meltdown if you go over to the Sox forumn and dont kiss the ring of white sox nation, but he can come here and be the smug prick that he is.

Pie will hit 269 with 14 homers and 67 ribi's. He will steal 27 bases, which should be good enough for cub fans. I would assume he will strike out about 120 times also.

BF can you make a Atlanta Brave room for me?

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ESPN Fantasy projects Pie at:

407 AB's, 8 HRs 44 RBIs, 12 SBs, OPS .716, AVG 265

This seems realistic. Hit in the 260 range, get on base. His SB's will be down if he's hitting 8 since they won't run as much with the pitcher at the plate.


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ESPN Fantasy projects Pie at:

407 AB's, 8 HRs 44 RBIs, 12 SBs, OPS .716, AVG 265

This seems realistic. Hit in the 260 range, get on base. His SB's will be down if he's hitting 8 since they won't run as much with the pitcher at the plate.


Even if he does that, Cub nation should take it, because his defense is going to save them quite a bit.

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ESPN Fantasy projects Pie at:

407 AB's, 8 HRs 44 RBIs, 12 SBs, OPS .716, AVG 265

This seems realistic. Hit in the 260 range, get on base. His SB's will be down if he's hitting 8 since they won't run as much with the pitcher at the plate.


Even if he does that, Cub nation should take it, because his defense is going to save them quite a bit.


id take that for a season from my number 8 hitter, but i still feel that the guy has potential to do much better. the guy has a history of hitting at every level. i just want to see a season of him starting centerfield every day, bat him 8th, stay off of his back and let him play. the guy has some pretty good tools, maybe it will work out well.


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the guy has a history of hitting at every level. i just want to see a season of him starting centerfield every day, bat him 8th, stay off of his back and let him play. the guy has some pretty good tools, maybe it will work out well.

Corey Patterson?

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the guy has a history of hitting at every level. i just want to see a season of him starting centerfield every day, bat him 8th, stay off of his back and let him play. the guy has some pretty good tools, maybe it will work out well.

Corey Patterson?


im not saying he WILL work out and hit for sure, im just saying they should let him play before they start trading anything for coco crisp or anyone else. we have been hearing about this guy for 3 years, i want to see him play before making any more judgements about him and trading for coco crisp.


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Would love .265 from PIE

did Frank C name his band after Felix Pi?

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I like the way MOFO thinks about the Cubs.

I don't understand why you talk about a guy like Pie throughout his time in the minors, prop him up as a future star, make him an untouchable but when the time comes to play him in the big leagues, decide not to play him. Make an investment in a guy and then refuse to see if the investment pays off. Doesn't make sense.

Give the guy a chance. I thought he hit the ball with some authority late last season and has had a pretty good spring. In April and May his speed and defense becomes that much more important. I think he can pop 12-15 HR and steal about 25 bases.


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pie another strong game today. i know i know, it is one game in spring training, but he is taking advantage of his opportunities. i think this guy COULD be a lot better than what some people think. why there is even talk about trading for another CF like coco crisp at this point is beyond me (although i understand the thought process of maybe acquiring a flexible OF who has some CF experience to fill in occasionally). he is the 8th place hitter, and a fine CF.

fukodome is another guy. he is hitting what, .220? and he still has an OBP over .390. i love the way this guy can take a walk. i hope he bats 2nd. hopefully he starts swinging a little better, but his patience would be a breath of fresh air up at the top of the order, ahead of lee and ramirez.


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Was going to post similar info, Pie is batting .340 this spring.

For him that is a big deal. Just can't have him batting 8th, in front of the pitcher, he will never see a fastball.

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