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Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Sun May 20, 2018 6:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

312player wrote:
Kopech is getting shelled in the minors.


Yeah looked awful last time out.

Author:  RFDC [ Sun May 20, 2018 8:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

Stop being so negative.

Author:  312player [ Mon May 21, 2018 6:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
312player wrote:
Kopech is getting shelled in the minors.


Yeah looked awful last time out.



Last start was good, he got shelled the 3starts before that~ 13 runs in 12 innings over those 3 starts.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon May 21, 2018 6:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

312player wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
312player wrote:
Kopech is getting shelled in the minors.


Yeah looked awful last time out.



Last start was good, he got shelled the 3starts before that~ 13 runs in 12 innings over those 3 starts.

He’ll be lucky to have the career of Andrew Cashner

Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon May 21, 2018 7:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

RFDC wrote:
Stop being so negative.


Yeah better that he gets shelled so thy can put himnin the bullpen right?

Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon May 21, 2018 7:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

312player wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
312player wrote:
Kopech is getting shelled in the minors.


Yeah looked awful last time out.



Last start was good, he got shelled the 3starts before that~ 13 runs in 12 innings over those 3 starts.


It was mostly one bad start against Durham. But yeah best to only focus on that right?

Author:  Cashman [ Mon May 21, 2018 7:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

They said he is working on a changeup. I am not too worried.

Author:  RFDC [ Mon May 21, 2018 8:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Stop being so negative.


Yeah better that he gets shelled so thy can put himnin the bullpen right?

The sooner the Sox realize he is a bullpen arm the better things will be.

Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon May 21, 2018 8:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

RFDC wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Stop being so negative.


Yeah better that he gets shelled so thy can put himnin the bullpen right?

The sooner the Sox realize he is a bullpen arm the better things will be.


If only they had you as a coach.

Author:  RFDC [ Mon May 21, 2018 8:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
RFDC wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Stop being so negative.


Yeah better that he gets shelled so thy can put himnin the bullpen right?

The sooner the Sox realize he is a bullpen arm the better things will be.


If only they had you as a coach.

So you still think he has what it takes to be an effective starter in the major league?

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon May 21, 2018 9:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

I believe Ruffcorn is talking about Kopech, as he quoted a terrible post from 312player bashing Kopech.

Author:  RFDC [ Mon May 21, 2018 9:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

Frank Coztansa wrote:
I believe Ruffcorn is talking about Kopech, as he quoted a terrible post from 312player bashing Kopech.

Perhaps so. But he and I have had a running discussion about Fulmer and I think his last post to me was in regard to him.

Of course Kopech is and will be a starter.

But Fulmer is a bullpen arm.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon May 21, 2018 9:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

312player wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
312player wrote:
Kopech is getting shelled in the minors.


Yeah looked awful last time out.



Last start was good, he got shelled the 3starts before that~ 13 runs in 12 innings over those 3 starts.
Kopech had one terrible start with 8 ER.

The other two were two runs over 3 innings and three runs over 6 innings. That is not great, but it is not "getting shelled" either.

And you conveniently left out that he gave up a total of 5 ER over his first four starts. Kopech has also struck out 53 while walking just 19 over 40.1 innings of work this season.

Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon May 21, 2018 10:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

Frank Coztansa wrote:
I believe Ruffcorn is talking about Kopech, as he quoted a terrible post from 312player bashing Kopech.


I was told that Fulmer having a successful start is a bad thing. So if Kopech has a bad start then it's a positive in the logic of RFDC.

Author:  RFDC [ Mon May 21, 2018 10:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
I believe Ruffcorn is talking about Kopech, as he quoted a terrible post from 312player bashing Kopech.


I was told that Fulmer having a successful start is a bad thing. So if Kopech has a bad start then it's a positive in the logic of RFDC.

Nice try. Completely different situation.

So answer my question, do you still think Fulmer has what it takes to be a starting pitcher in the majors?

Author:  312player [ Mon May 21, 2018 10:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

Frank Coztansa wrote:
312player wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
312player wrote:
Kopech is getting shelled in the minors.


Yeah looked awful last time out.



Last start was good, he got shelled the 3starts before that~ 13 runs in 12 innings over those 3 starts.
Kopech had one terrible start with 8 ER.

The other two were two runs over 3 innings and three runs over 6 innings. That is not great, but it is not "getting shelled" either.

And you conveniently left out that he gave up a total of 5 ER over his first four starts. Kopech has also struck out 53 while walking just 19 over 40.1 innings of work this season.


53k to 19BB is not good.. 19bb in 40ip is putrid.

Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon May 21, 2018 10:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

312player wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
312player wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
312player wrote:
Kopech is getting shelled in the minors.


Yeah looked awful last time out.



Last start was good, he got shelled the 3starts before that~ 13 runs in 12 innings over those 3 starts.
Kopech had one terrible start with 8 ER.

The other two were two runs over 3 innings and three runs over 6 innings. That is not great, but it is not "getting shelled" either.

And you conveniently left out that he gave up a total of 5 ER over his first four starts. Kopech has also struck out 53 while walking just 19 over 40.1 innings of work this season.



53k to 19BB is not good.. 19bb in 40ip is putrid.


Best to cut him then. You really could not be more transparent or stupid about this.

Author:  312player [ Mon May 21, 2018 10:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

Lol.. I have said from day one I'm not a believer in the kid.. If he was tearing up AAA I'd rethink my stance.. He ain't.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon May 21, 2018 10:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

Your face is putrid.

Author:  312player [ Mon May 21, 2018 10:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

Frank Coztansa wrote:
Your face is putrid.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon May 21, 2018 10:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

Classy.

And No, you couldn't.

Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon May 21, 2018 10:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

312player wrote:
Lol.. I have said from day one I'm not a believer in the kid.. If he was tearing up AAA I'd rethink my stance.. He ain't.


And if he were in the Cubs system you would be jerking it to him. He just turned 22, and he's averaging more than a strikeout per inning. Best to focus on a two game stretch where he walked 8 people though. Yeah.

Author:  Keyser Soze [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

312player wrote:
53k to 19BB is not good.. 19bb in 40ip is putrid.

2.79 so/bb ratio is not good? Huh

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

Poor 312. Just getting destroyed here.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

312player wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Your face is putrid.



I could bang your wife in 20 minutes you Caller Bob.

:lol:

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Mon May 21, 2018 11:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

312player wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Your face is putrid.



I could bang your wife in 20 minutes you Caller Bob.


Frank Coztansa wrote:
Classy.

And No, you couldn't.


Image

Author:  MartyD47 [ Mon May 21, 2018 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

RFDC wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
RFDC wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Stop being so negative.


Yeah better that he gets shelled so thy can put himnin the bullpen right?

The sooner the Sox realize he is a bullpen arm the better things will be.


If only they had you as a coach.

So you still think he has what it takes to be an effective starter in the major league?


He's got the good face. He's a starter.

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon May 21, 2018 12:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

Frank Coztansa wrote:
312player wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
312player wrote:
Kopech is getting shelled in the minors.


Yeah looked awful last time out.



Last start was good, he got shelled the 3starts before that~ 13 runs in 12 innings over those 3 starts.
Kopech had one terrible start with 8 ER.

The other two were two runs over 3 innings and three runs over 6 innings. That is not great, but it is not "getting shelled" either.

And you conveniently left out that he gave up a total of 5 ER over his first four starts. Kopech has also struck out 53 while walking just 19 over 40.1 innings of work this season.

19 walks in 40 innings is a lot.

Author:  312player [ Mon May 21, 2018 1:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

Keyser Soze wrote:
312player wrote:
53k to 19BB is not good.. 19bb in 40ip is putrid.

2.79 so/bb ratio is not good? Huh



It's okay, it's ..what's Sale for his career? 6~1 ?

Author:  312player [ Mon May 21, 2018 1:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Carson Fulmer

rogers park bryan wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
312player wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
312player wrote:
Kopech is getting shelled in the minors.


Yeah looked awful last time out.



It's an obscene

Last start was good, he got shelled the 3starts before that~ 13 runs in 12 innings over those 3 starts.
Kopech had one terrible start with 8 ER.

The other two were two runs over 3 innings and three runs over 6 innings. That is not great, but it is not "getting shelled" either.

And you conveniently left out that he gave up a total of 5 ER over his first four starts. Kopech has also struck out 53 while walking just 19 over 40.1 innings of work this season.

19 walks in 40 innings is a lot.



It's an obscene amount of walks in 40ip

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