I get why they did it...but seems crazy that a gold glove winner gets waived

I have no concern about money. The White Sox do as evidenced last year. Here's an idea. Don't get outbid for Cole. Then we'll know the White Sox aren't concerned with money.

Spending all of that long term money on a pitcher (any pitcher) is not worth the risk. Even the Dodgers, who have as big a budget that exits are regretting their spending so much money on Kershaw who was the best pitcher in the last decade. And he didn't even get hurt. He just got pitched out and isn't even last starter in a good major league rotation right now and can't even be utilized as a dependable reliever.

I think that the Sox should go after a proven good starting pitcher in the 2nd group behind Cole and a couple others. Look, the White So line-up is going to be awesome in the next 3-5 years. They do not need to capture the ERA title for a staff, just be a good staff. They will score beau coup runs.

Anybody with reason would take Cole over Wheeler if "money is not a concern".

Money is a concern. That's why I suggested taking the extra $32 mil on the 2 extra years for Abreu and delegate that to Cole. I suggested this because last off season we delegated a bunch of money to a couple relatives and a broken down reliever and came up 5 mil short for Machado. I'm not suggesting Abreu is broken down. I'm suggesting we won't miss him in 2021 and 22 when this team is theoretically competing for a championship and that a guy like Cole would be pretty key.

But don't get me wrong. What;s done is done and I'd be more than happy with Wheeler.But let's not let JR off the hook because he has or will sign a couple good FAs. It means he wants to be good. It doesn't mean he wants to be great.

Not over yet.

Cross him off the list..

Why is 5 yrs 110 mil "crazy"?

Cole is going to get 35 per

CHICAGO -- Omar Vizquel will not be returning as a manager in the White Sox Minor League system for the 2020 season.

"We felt that it was best for both sides to make a change," White Sox director of player development Chris Getz told MLB.com Wednesday, calling the parting an amicable one.

"Listen, Omar, ultra-talented player, very good instructor, created a good environment for our players," Getz continued. "We just felt with where things are at, our player development system, that it was time to go separate ways. But not only for himself, but for the organization as well and we wish Omar well. He was a positive influence while he was here."

Vizquel, 52, managed Class A Winston-Salem during the 2018 season and moved up to manage Double-A Birmingham in '19 covering his White Sox tenure. He guided the Dash to an 84-54 record and a first-half division title in '18 while earning Carolina League Manager of the Year honors in his managerial debut.

The Barons finished with a 64-72 mark in '19. Vizquel worked with top prospects such as Luis Robert, Nick Madrigal, Luis Alexander Basabe, Gavin Sheets, Blake Rutherford, Jimmy Lambert, Zack Burdi and Bernardo Flores with Birmingham. Vizquel played for the White Sox from 2010-11 as part of his stellar 24-year-career currently placing him on the Baseball Writers’ Association of America Hall of Fame ballot.

Crazy for the White Sox. Can't see them paying over 100 million for Wheeler. Also think over 100 million is way more than Wheeler is worth. He's what's left after Cole and Stras.

That's why you just add on another 15 per and get Big Daddy. Oh yeah, I forgot. Just spent $123 mil on NOT filling holes.

That's my problem with all of their recent activity. In a vacuum it's fine, but to whatever extent it inhibits them or restricts them from signing a top of the line starter, it's all a waste.

Other than Giolito that rotation is a train wreck

If they don't go after the tier Wheeler/Bum is in, I think it proves nothing has changed between last and this offseason with spending. And that Grandal was suppose to "show" they've changed.

Really? Based on what? It's a bunch of young guys and Rodon who is right around .500 in his career while pitching for shitty teams.

I have to call “who you crappin’?” on the Rodon comment. Close to .500 on a bad team? I seem to remember a guy on here who criticized Jose Quintana as not being a winning pitcher when others used the same argument you just did for Rodon. And Quintana is and was a better pitcher.