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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: Abreu's OPS is under .800 with all XBH applied

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:29 am

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A two game series? What happened to sample size?

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Post subject: Re: Abreu's OPS is under .800 with all XBH applied

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:30 am

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IMU wrote:

Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:

We need IMU to create threads ripping more Sox players as every time he does this, the player goes on a tear.

Can we have a Reynaldo Lopez thread please?

Floor has fallen out from underneath Abreu's OPS in just two games against the Cubs.

Giolito's smoke and mirrors are over.

Tim Anderson and Yoan Moncada have come back down to earth.

McCann, Nova, Yolmer and Leury were the best performers for the White Sox in the series. Doesn't say much about the rebuild, if we're being honest.

Despite the excellent trolling, the question still stands. Can we have a Lopez thread?

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Abreu's OPS is under .800 with all XBH applied

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:32 am

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IMU wrote:

Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:

We need IMU to create threads ripping more Sox players as every time he does this, the player goes on a tear.

Can we have a Reynaldo Lopez thread please?

I appreciate the effort but I think it needs to be a new thread for your magic to work

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Post subject: Re: Abreu's OPS is under .800 with all XBH applied

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:22 pm

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.808

Never seen an OPS fall so fast!

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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:33 pm

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IMU wrote:

.808

Never seen an OPS fall so fast!

Wait for Heywards September.

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Post subject: Re: Abreu's OPS is under .800 with all XBH applied

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:51 pm

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Darkside wrote:

IMU wrote:

.808

Never seen an OPS fall so fast!

Wait for Heywards September.

The baseball expert has never seen an OPS drop from.830 to .808 in a week. Might be time to recheck his credentials

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: Abreu's OPS is under .800 with all XBH applied

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:55 pm

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The "objective" baseball expert.

Even by trolling standards, IMU's posts are a shitshow.

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Post subject: Re: Abreu's OPS is under .800 with all XBH applied

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:18 pm

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.807. His OPS doesn't drop by the week. It drops by the minute.

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Warren Newson

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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:34 pm

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I've always compared Abreu to his recent predecessors. Big Frank is hands down a better hitter, and I always assumed Konerko was a better hitter, but this thread caused me to take a closer look. It's unfair to compare the counting stats because of career length, but as for the rate stats:

Ba OPS OPS+
Konerko .279 .841 118
Abreu .292 .864 135

Just looking at the numbers over a six year sample, Abreu is the better hitter.

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IMU wrote:

.807. His OPS doesn't drop by the week. It drops by the minute.

It’s somewhat fascinating to see a self proclaimed baseball expert learn how OPS works in real time.

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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:33 pm

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Heywards is .756 and dropping.

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Post subject: Re: Abreu's OPS is under .800 with all XBH applied

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:10 am

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Warren Newson wrote:

Maybe but if so it is very slight. Konerko was a better power hitter and defensively better than Abreu. They both were in the top echelon of first basemen in the league and just below HOF consideration (Abreu albeit doesn't have the longevity yet).

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Post subject: Re: Abreu's OPS is under .800 with all XBH applied

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:12 pm

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Sorry I'm late on this. Back under .800 for the light hitting 1B.

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Nardi

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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:22 pm

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I like your work ethic

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Post subject: Re: Abreu's OPS is under .800 with all XBH applied

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:59 am

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I must admit that I thought he would crest .800 at least once more this season but it is looking less likely by the day.

Is an on base percentage under 30% good?

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Frank Coztansa

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Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:07 am

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He'll finish over .800 (barring injury), so you don't need to worry about Abreu anymore.

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Post subject: Re: Abreu's OPS is under .800 with all XBH applied

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:41 am

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I am anxious to find out if Abreu or Eloy can claw their way over an 800 OPS.

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Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:39 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

He'll finish over .800 (barring injury), so you don't need to worry about Abreu anymore.

Sox are dropping like flies at the moment.

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Post subject: Re: Abreu's OPS is under .800 with all XBH applied

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IMU wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

He'll finish over .800 (barring injury), so you don't need to worry about Abreu anymore.

Sox are dropping like flies at the moment.

This guy gets it.

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Ogie Oglethorpe

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Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:29 pm

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so what's that about Abreu?

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Frank Coztansa

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Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:41 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

He'll finish over .800 (barring injury), so you don't need to worry about Abreu anymore.

This guy gets it.

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Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:45 pm

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.807! Goddamn! Well done!

https://youtu.be/4NjssV8UuVA?t=25

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Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:50 pm

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5.000 OPS in the 9th down 1. Maybe give him some extra credit? An A+++?

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Frank Coztansa

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Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:42 pm

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Abreu has spent his ENTIRE career above an .800 OPS!

But clearly I'm only referring to the '5.5 years out of 6 years' his entire career to that point and IMU can reconcile it however he feels the need to.

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Post subject: Re: Abreu's OPS is under .800 with all XBH applied

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:31 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Abreu used to be a very good hitter. He used to be one of the top first basemen.

He and Yu Darvish actually have very similar career trajectories. I hadn't even considered their similarities but you nailed it.

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Frank Coztansa

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Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:55 pm

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Nope.

Since Yu's trade to the Dodgers:

Yu 1.1 WAR
Abreu 4.6 WAR

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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:46 pm

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You mean the All-Star Jose Abreu?

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Nardi

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tommy wrote:

You mean the All-Star Jose Abreu?

You mean the over .800 OPS All Star Jose Abreu?

Besides, if you're slugging over .500, does OPS really mean much considering he was never a walker?

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Frank Coztansa

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Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:53 pm

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.825 OPS

Poor IMU :lol:

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Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:58 pm

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