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For a Sox fan, I would be most disappointed in having too many DH’s and the terrible defense.

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

The best move of the entire rebuild was hiring Hall of Fame baseball person Tony LaRussa, a move that was immediately met with derision from the modern "woke" Sox fan.

History will show that the record produced by LaRussa with this collection of bums and misfits is one of the greatest managerial feats in baseball history.

Your ability to drag almost every topic back to "wokeness" is really astounding. Don't you ever get tired of talking about it?

Juiced wrote:

The James Shields trade. :lol:

The Sox are 21 games under .500 with little hope for even a decent 2024 season. Lance Lynn has the worst ERA in baseball among qualified starters. The Sox just lost two games in a row in their home ballpark to an average at best Cubs team. I could go on and on because there are about a hundred things to make fun of the White Sox for right now. So what do you do? Make to reference a trade that took place over eight years ago. The White Sox are on their 4th different manager since the Shields trade.

:lol:

Yep, Cubs fans redefining stupidity as they post about the Sox will always be the best.

My favorite moment was when HY switched over to be a Sox fan.

denisdman wrote:

For a Sox fan, I would be most disappointed in having too many DH’s and the terrible defense.

The Cubs won a World Series with that model.

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

denisdman wrote:

For a Sox fan, I would be most disappointed in having too many DH’s and the terrible defense.

The Cubs won a World Series with that model.

No they didn't :lol:

Bryant, Baez, Rizzo, Heyward, Russell, Zobrist, Almora, Fowler are not DH's with terrible defense :lol:

My favorite moment was when HY switched over to be a Sox fan.

the 2016 cubs team defense was incredible.

For a Sox fan, I would be most disappointed in having too many DH’s and the terrible defense.

denisdman wrote:

For a Sox fan, I would be most disappointed in having too many DH’s and the terrible defense.

The trading part of the rebuild was pretty good.

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Juiced wrote:

The James Shields trade. :lol:

Yep, Cubs fans redefining stupidity as they post about the Sox will always be the best.

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Just keep posting your inane dribble

Warren Newson wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Your ability to drag almost every topic back to "wokeness" is really astounding. Don't you ever get tired of talking about it?

It's quite pertinent to the discussion of this rebuild. Many (most?) people seem to believe that the rebuild was going great until LaRussa was hired. That is certainly the WSCR position.

What is the knock on a Hall of Fame manager as opposed to a guy who was repeatedly passed over by the Royals? It's clearly political and has ZERO to do with baseball.

There was no managerial candidate out there that would have changed this outcome.

Warren Newson wrote:

There was no managerial candidate out there that would have changed this outcome.

are you trying to claim that no one was blaming Larussa ? Pretty sure many thought if they just dumped him for a Little League coach the team would instantly be a WS contender . I mean there are still people saying how he set them back YEARS!!!

Juiced wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

denisdman wrote:

For a Sox fan, I would be most disappointed in having too many DH’s and the terrible defense.

The Cubs won a World Series with that model.

No they didn't :lol:

Bryant, Baez, Rizzo, Heyward, Russell, Zobrist, Almora, Fowler are not DH's with terrible defense :lol:

the 2016 cubs team defense was incredible. best in the history of the franchise.

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Warren Newson wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Your ability to drag almost every topic back to "wokeness" is really astounding. Don't you ever get tired of talking about it?

The public/media reaction (which appeared to be what you were referencing) to the hiring of TLR is not pertinent to the Giolito trade nor any discussion about why the rebuild failed. Further, their managerial hirings were really not responsible for the rebuild's failure. There was no managerial candidate out there that would have changed this outcome.

The Sox were one of the best open jobs when they shitcanned Ricky. They scoured the list of their former managers and settled on a long retired, 80 year old alcoholic with narcolepsy.

And yet the he managed to win 93 games and a division with the same basic team that is currently 20+ games under .500

This Ends in Antioch wrote:

The Sox were one of the best open jobs when they shitcanned Ricky. They scoured the list of their former managers and settled on a long retired, 80 year old alcoholic with narcolepsy.

And yet the he managed to win 93 games and a division with the same basic team that is currently 20+ games under .500.

I've NEVER been a fan of LaRussa. And I don't think the manager is very important. They should have just let Renteria try to finish the job.

But something has gone terribly wrong with this rebuild and many people want to blame LaRussa who is nowhere near this shitty team.

Put me in the camp of those who don’t buy that this year’s team is basically the same as the ‘21 Sox.

Lol, Eloy in his "prime"

This Ends in Antioch wrote:

Put me in the camp of those who don’t buy that this year’s team is basically the same as the ‘21 Sox.

It's supposed to be better. Eloy, Robert, and Moncada should be in their prime and Leury isn't playing everyday.

Caller Bob wrote:

Lol, Eloy in his "prime"

What hitter on the Cubs is better than Eloy?

Warren Newson wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Your ability to drag almost every topic back to "wokeness" is really astounding. Don't you ever get tired of talking about it?

Author:	Joe Orr Road Rod [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:42 pm ]
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denisdman wrote: For a Sox fan, I would be most disappointed in having too many DH’s and the terrible defense. The Cubs won a World Series with that model.

Author:	Joe Orr Road Rod [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:46 pm ]
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Warren Newson wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: The best move of the entire rebuild was hiring Hall of Fame baseball person Tony LaRussa, a move that was immediately met with derision from the modern "woke" Sox fan. History will show that the record produced by LaRussa with this collection of bums and misfits is one of the greatest managerial feats in baseball history. Your ability to drag almost every topic back to "wokeness" is really astounding. Don't you ever get tired of talking about it? It's quite pertinent to the discussion of this rebuild. Many (most?) people seem to believe that the rebuild was going great until LaRussa was hired. That is certainly the WSCR position. What is the knock on a Hall of Fame manager as opposed to a guy who was repeatedly passed over by the Royals? It's clearly political and has ZERO to do with baseball.

Author:	Juiced [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:50 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: Juiced wrote: The James Shields trade. The Sox are 21 games under .500 with little hope for even a decent 2024 season. Lance Lynn has the worst ERA in baseball among qualified starters. The Sox just lost two games in a row in their home ballpark to an average at best Cubs team. I could go on and on because there are about a hundred things to make fun of the White Sox for right now. So what do you do? Make to reference a trade that took place over eight years ago. The White Sox are on their 4th different manager since the Shields trade. Yep, Cubs fans redefining stupidity as they post about the Sox will always be the best. That was my favorite part of the rebuild. Trading away a future All-Star for a scrub journeyman pitcher (During a rebuild) Not my fault your team has been rebuilding for almost a decade

Author:	HawaiiYou [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:51 pm ]
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It was 2020 or 2021 when the Sox were battling for the division. They had a series vs the Twins at home and the game got into the late innings. Jose Abreu hit a routine grounder to the shortstop. He hustled and beat out the play to score the go ahead run. Every Sox fan here and across the world were like OMG DID YOU SEE JOSE HUSTLE AND BEAT THAT THROW TO FIRST! Like if some miracle happened. When you celebrate something so routine and expected from any MLB ball player like hustling on a grounder to beat the throw you know something is terribly wrong with your team.

Author:	RFDC [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:54 pm ]
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My favorite moment was when HY switched over to be a Sox fan.

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Author:	HawaiiYou [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:55 pm ]
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RFDC wrote: My favorite moment was when HY switched over to be a Sox fan. It was a joke!

Author:	Juiced [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:56 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: denisdman wrote: For a Sox fan, I would be most disappointed in having too many DH’s and the terrible defense. The Cubs won a World Series with that model. No they didn't Bryant, Baez, Rizzo, Heyward, Russell, Zobrist, Almora, Fowler are not DH's with terrible defense

Author:	HawaiiYou [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:57 pm ]
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Juiced wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: denisdman wrote: For a Sox fan, I would be most disappointed in having too many DH’s and the terrible defense. The Cubs won a World Series with that model. No they didn't Bryant, Baez, Rizzo, Heyward, Russell, Zobrist, Almora, Fowler are not DH's with terrible defense the 2016 cubs team defense was incredible. best in the history of the franchise.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:05 pm ]
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RFDC wrote: My favorite moment was when HY switched over to be a Sox fan.

Author:	good dolphin [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:21 pm ]
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denisdman wrote: For a Sox fan, I would be most disappointed in having too many DH’s and the terrible defense. The trading part of the rebuild was pretty good. They were terrible at drafting and free agency.

Author:	badrogue17 [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:28 pm ]
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Juiced wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Juiced wrote: The James Shields trade. The Sox are 21 games under .500 with little hope for even a decent 2024 season. Lance Lynn has the worst ERA in baseball among qualified starters. The Sox just lost two games in a row in their home ballpark to an average at best Cubs team. I could go on and on because there are about a hundred things to make fun of the White Sox for right now. So what do you do? Make to reference a trade that took place over eight years ago. The White Sox are on their 4th different manager since the Shields trade. Yep, Cubs fans redefining stupidity as they post about the Sox will always be the best. Frank Coztansa wrote: Just keep posting your inane dribble

Author:	Warren Newson [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:48 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Warren Newson wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: The best move of the entire rebuild was hiring Hall of Fame baseball person Tony LaRussa, a move that was immediately met with derision from the modern "woke" Sox fan. History will show that the record produced by LaRussa with this collection of bums and misfits is one of the greatest managerial feats in baseball history. Your ability to drag almost every topic back to "wokeness" is really astounding. Don't you ever get tired of talking about it? It's quite pertinent to the discussion of this rebuild. Many (most?) people seem to believe that the rebuild was going great until LaRussa was hired. That is certainly the WSCR position. What is the knock on a Hall of Fame manager as opposed to a guy who was repeatedly passed over by the Royals? It's clearly political and has ZERO to do with baseball. The public/media reaction (which appeared to be what you were referencing) to the hiring of TLR is not pertinent to the Giolito trade nor any discussion about why the rebuild failed. Further, their managerial hirings were really not responsible for the rebuild's failure. There was no managerial candidate out there that would have changed this outcome.

Author:	Bagels [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:51 pm ]
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Warren Newson wrote: There was no managerial candidate out there that would have changed this outcome. are you trying to claim that no one was blaming Larussa ? Pretty sure many thought if they just dumped him for a Little League coach the team would instantly be a WS contender . I mean there are still people saying how he set them back YEARS!!!

Author:	HawaiiYou [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:51 pm ]
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I still think if the had hired Ozzie this offseason they would be in the playoff hunt. That team needs an ass kicking no nonsense manager.

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Author:	Warren Newson [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:54 pm ]
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Bagels wrote: Warren Newson wrote: There was no managerial candidate out there that would have changed this outcome. are you trying to claim that no one was blaming Larussa ? Pretty sure many thought if they just dumped him for a Little League coach the team would instantly be a WS contender . I mean there are still people saying how he set them back YEARS!!! Those people are wrong.

Author:	This Ends in Antioch [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:03 pm ]
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The Sox were one of the best open jobs when they shitcanned Ricky. They scoured the list of their former managers and settled on a long retired, 80 year old alcoholic with narcolepsy.

Author:	Juiced [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:09 pm ]
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HawaiiYou wrote: Juiced wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: denisdman wrote: For a Sox fan, I would be most disappointed in having too many DH’s and the terrible defense. The Cubs won a World Series with that model. No they didn't Bryant, Baez, Rizzo, Heyward, Russell, Zobrist, Almora, Fowler are not DH's with terrible defense the 2016 cubs team defense was incredible. best in the history of the franchise. Maybe he was talking about the World Series he watched as a youth in 1908.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:28 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: And yet the he managed to win 93 games and a division with the same basic team that is currently 20+ games under .500 You can keep saying this over and over if you want, but its not true and never will be.

Author:	Caller Bob [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 5:22 pm ]
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Lol, Eloy in his "prime"

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Thu Jul 27, 2023 6:30 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: This Ends in Antioch wrote: Put me in the camp of those who don’t buy that this year’s team is basically the same as the ‘21 Sox. It's supposed to be better. Eloy, Robert, and Moncada should be in their prime and Leury isn't playing everyday. Moncada isnt playing everyday either and Robert was an All Star this year. He's literally the best offensive player in the AL who isn't named Ohtani. If LaRussa was so great, shouldn't the Sox have been better in 2022 then? I know you're smart enough to log on to baseballreference.com to see just how different the team is today vs in 2021, but I'm here to help if you need a hand.

Author:	DAC [ Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:08 pm ]
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"Thanks Cubs!!" Whatever happened to that?

Author:	whitesoxfanfrank [ Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:35 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Caller Bob wrote: Lol, Eloy in his "prime" What hitter on the Cubs is better than Eloy? Based on 2023, Bellinger is better and Morel just as good.

Author:	Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:02 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Warren Newson wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: The best move of the entire rebuild was hiring Hall of Fame baseball person Tony LaRussa, a move that was immediately met with derision from the modern "woke" Sox fan. History will show that the record produced by LaRussa with this collection of bums and misfits is one of the greatest managerial feats in baseball history. Your ability to drag almost every topic back to "wokeness" is really astounding. Don't you ever get tired of talking about it? It's quite pertinent to the discussion of this rebuild. Many (most?) people seem to believe that the rebuild was going great until LaRussa was hired. That is certainly the WSCR position. What is the knock on a Hall of Fame manager as opposed to a guy who was repeatedly passed over by the Royals? It's clearly political and has ZERO to do with baseball. That’s as lazy as a Fox News narrative on BLM. Not surprising though. Kind of sad really.