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| Author: | RFDC [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sell off 2016 |
I thought Renteria did a decent job for the Cubs. Nothing spectacular and nothing real bad. I think he deserves another opportunity to manage again and IMO he would be an upgrade over Ventura. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:32 pm ] |
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My dog would be an upgrade over Ventura. |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:34 pm ] |
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Frank Coztansa wrote: My dog would be an upgrade over Ventura. Even if your dog was named Terry Bevington? |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sell off 2016 |
Farvio... did I say he was bad? |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:45 pm ] |
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Darkside wrote: FavreFan wrote: Darkside wrote: Oh boy! Renteria! What an upgrade! Yowie! Why's he bad? I thought I remember Cub fans liking him.  You boys have fun with him! I wouldnt exactly call this a ringing endorsement, Darko. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sell off 2016 |
Darkside wrote: Farvio... did I say he was bad? If he's not a bad manager, what do you find so funny? You obviously implied it. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sell off 2016 |
Why are Cubs fans so angry? |
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| Author: | Kirkwood [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:55 pm ] |
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Melky, Robertson, Shields, etc all can be traded in August. No one picking those guys off waivers. Boston and Dodgers will be ringing Hahn non-stop again in November after they flame out with their garbage pitching staffs. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sell off 2016 |
You'd think so. But Kenny will probably do something stupid like put in a waiver claim on ARod. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:12 pm ] |
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Why are Cubs fans so angry? 2016 |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:35 pm ] |
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Frank Coztansa wrote: I wouldnt exactly call this a ringing endorsement, Darko. This endorsement is ringing, baby! RINGING! I can't wait to see him managing the Sox. Gonna be great. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:37 pm ] |
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FavreFan wrote: Darkside wrote: Farvio... did I say he was bad? If he's not a bad manager, what do you find so funny? You obviously implied it. He speaks spanish! He can communicate with the Latins. CRITICALLY IMPORTANT! |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:42 pm ] |
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....and Darko has the audacity to criticize the coherency in my posts. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:42 pm ] |
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FavreFan wrote: ....and Darko has the audacity to criticize the coherency in my posts. You mad? |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:45 pm ] |
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Nas wrote: FavreFan wrote: ....and Darko has the audacity to criticize the coherency in my posts. You mad? Nah, man. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:46 pm ] |
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FavreFan wrote: Nas wrote: FavreFan wrote: ....and Darko has the audacity to criticize the coherency in my posts. You mad? Nah, man. SPANISH! Obviously he will be manager of the year. I mean, he can talk to the best hitler in on the team without an interpreter. |
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| Author: | '77Cubs [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:08 pm ] |
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Kirkwood wrote: Melky, Robertson, Shields, etc all can be traded in August. No one picking those guys off waivers. Boston and Dodgers will be ringing Hahn non-stop again in November after they flame out with their garbage pitching staffs. Melky would be claimed. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:30 pm ] |
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JORR must be buyin drinks for the house....ALL IN 2017!!! |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:43 pm ] |
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Hatchetman wrote: JORR must be buyin drinks for the house....ALL IN 2017!!! Well I was told for years that you can rebuild and compete at the same time. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:50 pm ] |
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Looks like Puig is a goner. Make the Dodgers include Gav and it's a done deal. |
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| Author: | IMU [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:22 pm ] |
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Sorry Sox fans... not sure when you're gonna get out of this hell. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:29 pm ] |
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IMU wrote: Sorry Sox fans... not sure when you're gonna get out of this hell. What hell? A baseball expert I know who hasn't been wrong on anything baseball related since Brett Jackson has repeatedly assured me the Sox are contenders for the wild card this year. |
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| Author: | IMU [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:32 pm ] |
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Perennially having possible Wild Card contention as the best case scenario is a type of hell. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:34 pm ] |
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IMU wrote: Perennially having possible Wild Card contention as the best case scenario is a type of hell. So is having only one sport active for a third of the year, and that sport is baseball. |
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| Author: | IMU [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sell off 2016 |
Baseball is not just a sport but a superior way of life. Being a diehard baseball fan is a higher plane of existence. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sell off 2016 |
Lately, being a Sox fan is a higher plain of existence. |
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| Author: | America [ Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sell off 2016 |
Its one thing to not get the right deal for Quintana and Sale. Though I'm certain the Sox got a good offer for Sale and just refused to budge because they cant stop congratulating the genius of his extension, there's at least a decent argument in waiting until the offseason to ship him out. But we all know that wont happen because... The only other player the Sox traded was Zach f'in Duke. Robertson and Melky are inexplicably still on the roster despite the fact the Sox could've gotten out from underneath their contracts and probably also gotten some decent prospects in exchange. They didn't move James Shields because they weren't certain he would decline his option and become a FA and wanted to keep him in the event he stuck around. Gonzalez was kept for similar reasons. The truth is they want Melky, Robertson, Gonzalez, Shields for 2017 because despite repeated failures Kenny and JR are certain they have a winning roster. The Sox are going to go for it again in 2017, then 2018, then 2020 all the way until Sale, Quintana and Eaton are long gone and the Sox are left with nothing to show for their time in a Sox uniform except losing season after losing season. I'm done with it. I'm not going to watch them try to salvage this ship again this offseason with more desperate trades trying to plug a mounting number of leaks. They'll make the equivalent of a Samardzija or Frazier trade again this offseason and some promising young talent will leave (Semien would be 2nd on this Sox team in WAR, Trayce Thompson would be 5th). And for the 3rd year running the complete lack of organizational pitching depth will manifest itself in a horrendous bullpen that torpedoes any shot at success, and players like Tyler Danish and Carson Fulmer (it'll be Alec Hansen, Zack Burdi, Spencer Adams this time next year) will be called up an actual calendar year early only to be permanently ruined by the sting of big league failure. But those are the only options the Sox will have because HALF the top 30 has been traded in the last 2 offseasons and no amount of drafting can replace that kind of loss. The White Sox are done. By the time Jerry dies and the new owner fires Hahn/KW it'll be too late to turn the franchise around and keep them in Chicago. It's over. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sell off 2016 |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Lately, being a Sox fan is a higher plain of existence. More like a plateau. |
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| Author: | jimmypasta [ Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sell off 2016 |
From Chet Coppock: mired in mediocrity.,..asleep at the trade deadline... the white sox are a 24 karat gold hunk of boredom. axe williams, hahn, ventura. if any club in chicago needs an injection of life its the sox. #Deadzone |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sell off 2016 |
 The White Sox turned down Benintendi and a 20-year old starter/reliever with a fastball sitting 95-97 and a devastating breaking ball + in exchange for Quintana. This was likely the "King's Ransom" trade package. That's...close. Not quite "there", but close. |
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