Bradley, Swihart or Benintendi off the table?
Still better than the garbage Nats offer.
Jones/Kopech/Burdi/Fulmer is a nasty bullpen.
Now just need to find an ace
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| Author: | Kirkwood [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:38 pm ] |
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Bradley, Swihart or Benintendi off the table? Still better than the garbage Nats offer. Jones/Kopech/Burdi/Fulmer is a nasty bullpen. Now just need to find an ace
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:40 pm ] |
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there are two luis basabe's. this is the guy: http://www.baseball-reference.com/regis ... sabe000lui |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:40 pm ] |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:41 pm ] |
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Kopech is a starter. |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:41 pm ] |
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We can safely say the Sox 100% won this trade |
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| Author: | Cashman [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:41 pm ] |
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Hatchetman wrote: He is a CFer, not terrible #ers. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:42 pm ] |
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KDdidit wrote: We can safely say the Sox 100% won this trade 2 Hanleys |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:42 pm ] |
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312player wrote: America wrote: Sox got ripped off. You think so? Did not see the need to trade Sale unless it was something so amazing that it could not be passed up. Three years of Sale for prospects. I doubt this package of players will exceed his career production going forward. Especially with the White Sox developing them. |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:42 pm ] |
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Sale will get killed by the New England media sooner than later too. |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:43 pm ] |
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I'm expecting JORR to post that Moncada will be lucky to have the career Ray Durham did at any moment . |
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| Author: | America [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:44 pm ] |
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Needed one more piece like Devers or Swihart to make this a good deal. I think Hahn heard "Ok, we'll give up Moncada" and just said yes. If Moncada isn't an absolute monster this trade will go down as one of the worst in MLB history. |
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| Author: | Cashman [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:44 pm ] |
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America wrote: Needed one more piece like Devers or Swihart to make this a good deal. I think Hahn heard "Ok, we'll give up Moncada" and just said yes. If Moncada isn't an absolute monster this trade will go down as one of the worst in MLB history. Pretty much |
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| Author: | TurdFerguson [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:50 pm ] |
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He didn't strike out in 8 or his 20 plate appearance during his September call-up, so He had that going for him. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:51 pm ] |
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badrogue17 wrote: I'm expecting JORR to post that Moncada will be lucky to have the career Ray Durham did at any moment . You dissing Ray? 
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| Author: | America [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:51 pm ] |
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Is there a good reason Swihart couldn't come back? Is this just never going to do anything about the catcher position? |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:51 pm ] |
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pittmike wrote: badrogue17 wrote: I'm expecting JORR to post that Moncada will be lucky to have the career Ray Durham did at any moment . You dissing Ray? No way. One of my favorite Sox from that era. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:52 pm ] |
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TurdFerguson wrote: He didn't strike out in 8 or his 20 plate appearance during his September call-up, so He had that going for him. Baez 2.0? |
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| Author: | Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:55 pm ] |
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Doesn't seem like enough. But they were in a catch-22 - the teams that had the best prospects need those prospects to win in 2017 or 2018. The teams that could have put together a package greater than what the Red Sox gave them (like Atlanta) have no realistic chance in winning in 2017. I don't think they could have gotten more at the deadline, and there was too much risk that Sale would either become a real jackass or ruin his arm. But Moncada has to give them 5 years (2018-2022) of at least .850 OPS and average defense at 2B for this trade to make any sense. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:00 pm ] |
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Eaton Anderson Abreu Frazier Moncada That's a hell of a top 5 of your lineup. |
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| Author: | TurdFerguson [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:01 pm ] |
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leashyourkids wrote: TurdFerguson wrote: He didn't strike out in 8 or his 20 plate appearance during his September call-up, so He had that going for him. Baez 2.0? Unlike Anderson or Baez, has a good walk rate and should raise his floor quite a bit. But I don't think he has the glove of either one of them either. I think he is projected as an average defense 2nd baseman. Much like dealing with the Cubs, I can't help but feel him being a Red Sox inflates his prospect status a bit. |
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| Author: | America [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:02 pm ] |
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Frank Coztansa wrote: Eaton Anderson Abreu Frazier Moncada That's a hell of a top 5 of your lineup. Three of them are going to be gone in a week. |
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| Author: | City of Fools [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:02 pm ] |
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badrogue17 wrote: pittmike wrote: badrogue17 wrote: I'm expecting JORR to post that Moncada will be lucky to have the career Ray Durham did at any moment . You dissing Ray? No way. One of my favorite Sox from that era. I'll say that. Ray was unbelievable. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:03 pm ] |
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Frank Coztansa wrote: Eaton Anderson Abreu Frazier Moncada That's a hell of a top 5 of your lineup. What makes you think they will all still be on the team? |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:06 pm ] |
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Hatchetman wrote: I guarantee they got the wrong one. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:07 pm ] |
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Spiegs and Rozner like they picked a lane and "hope" this is only the beginning. Bernsie chimes in with authoritative "better be". |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:08 pm ] |
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badrogue17 wrote: I'm expecting JORR to post that Moncada will be lucky to have the career Ray Durham did at any moment . I sure wouldn't bet on him being better than Durham. I wouldn't have traded Sale. THIS. IS. THE. PROBLEM. WITH. TELLING. YOU. EXACTLY. WHAT. THEY. ARE. GOING. TO. DO. It was like they made a decision to trade Sale and got what they could. That's not a decision I would have made. I would have made it clear I was comfortable keeping him. |
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| Author: | City of Fools [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:09 pm ] |
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RFDC wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Eaton Anderson Abreu Frazier Moncada That's a hell of a top 5 of your lineup. What makes you think they will all still be on the team? beat me to it. Not sure they want to contend for a year or two? |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:11 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: badrogue17 wrote: I'm expecting JORR to post that Moncada will be lucky to have the career Ray Durham did at any moment . I sure wouldn't bet on him being better than Durham. I wouldn't have traded Sale. THIS. IS. THE. PROBLEM. WITH. TELLING. YOU. EXACTLY. WHAT. THEY. ARE. GOING. TO. DO. It was like they made a decision to trade Sale and got what they could. That's not a decision I would have made. I would have made it clear I was comfortable keeping him. Yep. Drove down the price. They will suck for the next three years now. How fucking exciting. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:12 pm ] |
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look he called KW a "motherfucker" for ousting the laroche kid. he was gone after that. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:14 pm ] |
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I don't like the move, but I also find it offensive that they are tanking. This nullifies any future success they have. |
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