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Author:  Kirkwood [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:14 pm ]
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Good grief, Jerry. You get a stadium damn near rent free!!!

Instead of wanting 4 "can't miss" prospects you take a lesser package since they're "free".

Die already.
Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:22 pm ]
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America wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
So instead of getting better players in the back of the deal like Groome or Travis they took the money. Cheap fuckers.

Jerry FUCKING Reinsdorf ladies and gents...cant believe it. You add Swihart to this deal and being something I can stomach, but I guess that's not important.


Yep. And at $100 million Sale is still underpaid.
Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:25 pm ]
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Jesus Christ, people, calm down, here is the tweet (from a guy who gets paid to write and talk about baseball, mind you):

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1.) Half of the "$63 million deal" was a penalty paid to the MLB for exceeding the signing pool allotted for the Sawx.

2.) The "$31.2 million left" is the bonus money the Sawx agreed to pay Moncada for signing with them. He is otherwise on a standard minor league contract.

3.) I don't think bonus money from an international signing can be transferred as a balance in case of a trade, as it is not salary. Red Sox were on the hook for it either way.

This is merely Bruce Levine being an idiot, and your outrage could be quelled by a rather easy google search. :roll:
Author:  jimmypasta [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:31 pm ]
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The fairness of this deal rides on the 2 other prospects they got. It's looking like they would have been better off trading with the Cubs or any other team that would have mixed youngsters with at least one proven veteran. Instead the Sox got two maybe's and two afterthoughts.
Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:34 pm ]
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jimmypasta wrote:
The fairness of this deal rides on the 2 other prospects they got. It's looking like they would have been better off trading with the Cubs or any other team that would have mixed youngsters with at least one proven veteran. Instead the Sox got two maybe's and two afterthoughts.

Pretty much everyone agree the other two prospects are terrible and won't ever be good. Sox got fucked hard on this.
Author:  Don Tiny [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:35 pm ]
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Maybe finally the Sox can rebuild in peace for a couple-three years and then jettison into the upper echelons of the MLB, while the Coob are still within their current win-now window. If so, we live in exciting times indeed. Crosstown World Series 2020.
Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:36 pm ]
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jimmypasta wrote:
The fairness of this deal rides on the 2 other prospects they got. It's looking like they would have been better off trading with the Cubs or any other team that would have mixed youngsters with at least one proven veteran. Instead the Sox got two maybe's and two afterthoughts.



HOYER. SAID. HE. DID. NOT. WANT. TO. TRADE. WITH. THE. SOX.


Trades between geographical rivals do not occur often. Did you know the Dodgers and Giants have only made three trades over the past sixty years?
Author:  jimmypasta [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:37 pm ]
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I feel bad for Sox Nation today. You just don't trade elite talent for 2 decent prospects and two throw in's. I would have rather kept Sale.
Author:  GoldenJet [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:39 pm ]
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Wasn't he supposed to pull at least one All Star caliber position player and a slew of can't miss prospects?
Author:  Gloopan Kuratz [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:39 pm ]
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GoldenJet wrote:
Wasn't he supposed to pull at least one All Star caliber position player and a slew of can't miss prospects?

They got the prospect of $31 million.
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:44 pm ]
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America wrote:
Needed one more piece like Devers or Swihart to make this a good deal. I think Hahn heard "Ok, we'll give up Moncada" and just said yes. If Moncada isn't an absolute monster this trade will go down as one of the worst in MLB history.


and honestly, how many second basemen end up being monsters?

They traded Sale for a non impact position everyday player
Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:45 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
America wrote:
Needed one more piece like Devers or Swihart to make this a good deal. I think Hahn heard "Ok, we'll give up Moncada" and just said yes. If Moncada isn't an absolute monster this trade will go down as one of the worst in MLB history.


and honestly, how many second basemen end up being monsters?

They traded Sale for a non impact position everyday player



I'm gonna guess he actually ends up playing third.
Author:  GoldenJet [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:47 pm ]
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Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
Wasn't he supposed to pull at least one All Star caliber position player and a slew of can't miss prospects?

They got the prospect of $31 million.


Whoa...so they can go sign some shit players to lowball contracts?
Author:  Gloopan Kuratz [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:49 pm ]
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GoldenJet wrote:
Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
Wasn't he supposed to pull at least one All Star caliber position player and a slew of can't miss prospects?

They got the prospect of $31 million.


Whoa...so they can go sign some shit players to lowball contracts?

Nope. The Chairman puts it in his pocket.

No one goes to the park anyway. Might as well tank and pay less salaries.
Author:  Hatchetman [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:49 pm ]
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what a bunch of namby pambies. you'd think this was the first time you got anally probed by JR.
Author:  GoldenJet [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:49 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
America wrote:
Needed one more piece like Devers or Swihart to make this a good deal. I think Hahn heard "Ok, we'll give up Moncada" and just said yes. If Moncada isn't an absolute monster this trade will go down as one of the worst in MLB history.


and honestly, how many second basemen end up being monsters?

They traded Sale for a non impact position everyday player



I'm gonna guess he actually ends up playing third.


From the look of his highlight films, I'd agree with you. He doesn't look or field like a second baseman. He looked serviceable.
Author:  billypootons [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:51 pm ]
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This thread is getting meatbally fast
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:53 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
A couple days ago I kept saying Hahn and KW should be fired. Now I want them both murdered. I'm pretty much done with the Sox until these two fucking clowns are gone.


I am not happy with these two gentlemen either.
Author:  TurdFerguson [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:54 pm ]
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billypootons wrote:
This thread is getting meatbally fast



I can't wait for the uproar when they leave him in minors for the first 7 weeks of the season to push back arbitration.
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:58 pm ]
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Nothing like the feeling of a good minor league system
Author:  Don Tiny [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:04 pm ]
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Would it be appropriate to re-conjugate his name to Chris Sold?
Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:06 pm ]
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Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
Wasn't he supposed to pull at least one All Star caliber position player and a slew of can't miss prospects?

They got the prospect of $31 million.


Whoa...so they can go sign some shit players to lowball contracts?

Nope. The Chairman puts it in his pocket.

No one goes to the park anyway. Might as well tank and pay less salaries.


Ok, seriously now: You guys realize the Sox couldn't negotiate to pay or not pay Moncada's bonus money, right? You realize that, like all deferred payments, they are not transferred when a trade occurs, right? Which is how the Red Sox are still paying Manny Ramirez and Adrian Gonzalez, the Mets Bobby Bonilla, etc. Are we clear on that?
Author:  TurdFerguson [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:08 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
Would it be appropriate to re-conjugate his name to Chris Sold?


The Red Sox beg to differ, they got him on Sale.
Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:10 pm ]
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TurdFerguson wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
Would it be appropriate to re-conjugate his name to Chris Sold?


The Red Sox beg to differ, they got him on Sale.

Eaglo Jeff wrote:
the Price must have been right!
Author:  WaitingforRuffcorn [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:13 pm ]
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Last time the White Sox had a top rated system I believe it was because of the highly touted Jon Rauch. That worked out great. Good thing they rushed to trade Sale. Red Sox winning the World Series again. Great.
Author:  Bagels [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:13 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
TurdFerguson wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
Would it be appropriate to re-conjugate his name to Chris Sold?


The Red Sox beg to differ, they got him on Sale.

Eaglo Jeff wrote:
the Price must have been right!


:lol: :lol: :lol:
Author:  Don Tiny [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:16 pm ]
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He's off the team for next year!
Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:18 pm ]
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Jesus, when this place decides to hivemind about something, there are no expenses spared. :roll:
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:21 pm ]
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They didn't get a team's top prospect for Chris Sale. That is bad.
Author:  Peoria Matt [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:23 pm ]
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Not to pile on but reaction from fans on a few Red Sox message boards is about 98% positive.
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