It is currently Fri Jun 07, 2024 5:35 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 105 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:28 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:39 pm
Posts: 19521
pizza_Place: Lou Malnati's
https://www.dailyherald.com/sports/2018 ... -white-sox

Rozner mad at the fans for not understanding the plan and that 7 is more than 6.

_________________
Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

The Missing Link wrote:
For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:38 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 4:29 pm
Posts: 39925
Location: Everywhere
pizza_Place: giordanos
Not a bad gig to have columns to recycle every now and then.

_________________
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:29 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:32 pm
Posts: 13865
Location: France
pizza_Place: Baranabyis
Hate on Hahn all you want but he stole Rutherford from New York.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:56 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 80531
America wrote:
Hate on Hahn all you want but he stole Rutherford from New York.


looks like he stole Eloy and Cease from the Cubs as well. Sure the Cubs got value, as did the Yankees, but there is no way either makes that trade today.

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:26 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 4:29 pm
Posts: 39925
Location: Everywhere
pizza_Place: giordanos
It’s so meatball Sox fan. Ah we won da Q and Eaton deal sowhut. Dat Yoan fukin blows.

_________________
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:19 pm
Posts: 29002
pizza_Place: What??
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
https://www.dailyherald.com/sports/20180807/rozner-7-years-of-jimenez-kopech-is-more-than-6-for-the-white-sox

Rozner mad at the fans for not understanding the plan and that 7 is more than 6.


Who doesn't understand 7 is more than 6? It's been made perfectly clear in this thread that everybody knows 7 is more than 6.

I wonder how Rozner would feel if he was a copy boy for 5 years, proved his mettle, and then had to wait til next April for the benefit of 7 is more than 6. Only management couldn't tell him the truth. They'd have to tell him some bullshit or get sued.

Sorry that I'm not "understanding" the difference between right and wrong.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:17 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:32 pm
Posts: 13865
Location: France
pizza_Place: Baranabyis
I have said from the beginning that Moncada is not critical to the rebuild. Him being a bust gives them much less wiggle-room but does not cripple its chance of success. Madrigal will be here this time next year and you'll have forgotten all about the strikeout machine.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:38 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:05 pm
Posts: 68609
pizza_Place: Lina's Pizza
America wrote:
I have said from the beginning that Moncada is not critical to the rebuild. Him being a bust gives them much less wiggle-room but does not cripple its chance of success. Madrigal will be here this time next year and you'll have forgotten all about the strikeout machine.

There is no way Madrigal will be up next year.

And for all Moncada's faults, this is still only his second season in the league. He can improve.

_________________
The Hawk wrote:
There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:46 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:17 am
Posts: 72296
Location: Palatine
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
Terry's Peeps wrote:
America wrote:
I have said from the beginning that Moncada is not critical to the rebuild. Him being a bust gives them much less wiggle-room but does not cripple its chance of success. Madrigal will be here this time next year and you'll have forgotten all about the strikeout machine.

There is no way Madrigal will be up next year.

And for all Moncada's faults, this is still only his second season in the league. He can improve.

Whew, I for one feel better now. Thank you for the reassurance.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:05 pm
Posts: 68609
pizza_Place: Lina's Pizza
:lol:

Hey I have to try and be positive about something.

_________________
The Hawk wrote:
There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:02 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:32 pm
Posts: 13865
Location: France
pizza_Place: Baranabyis
Terry's Peeps wrote:
America wrote:
I have said from the beginning that Moncada is not critical to the rebuild. Him being a bust gives them much less wiggle-room but does not cripple its chance of success. Madrigal will be here this time next year and you'll have forgotten all about the strikeout machine.

There is no way Madrigal will be up next year.

And for all Moncada's faults, this is still only his second season in the league. He can improve.

Moncada is what he is.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:13 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:39 pm
Posts: 19521
pizza_Place: Lou Malnati's
I don’t see one thing Moncada does well at this point. Run I guess. Not helpful at 2nd. And his base running doesn’t seem to match his speed. Just a horrific disappointment. Durable in any other organization to get that return for Sale.

_________________
Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

The Missing Link wrote:
For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:17 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:49 pm
Posts: 1430
pizza_Place: Frozen Home Run Inn Pizza
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
I don’t see one thing Moncada does well at this point. Run I guess. Not helpful at 2nd. And his base running doesn’t seem to match his speed. Just a horrific disappointment. Durable in any other organization to get that return for Sale.


He clearly works the count and draws walks very well, he's probably a little too selective at this point. Either way he's 23 fucking years old, anyone writing him off as a bust is a fool.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:23 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:39 pm
Posts: 19521
pizza_Place: Lou Malnati's
Powerhouse233 wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
I don’t see one thing Moncada does well at this point. Run I guess. Not helpful at 2nd. And his base running doesn’t seem to match his speed. Just a horrific disappointment. Durable in any other organization to get that return for Sale.


He clearly works the count and draws walks very well, he's probably a little too selective at this point. Either way he's 23 fucking years old, anyone writing him off as a bust is a fool.


What’s his OBP? Not in the overly selective range. He’s not walking at a similar rate to last year. And there is clearly a hole in his swing or he wouldn’t be striking out at 3x his walk rate. He also sucks defensively.

_________________
Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

The Missing Link wrote:
For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:23 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:39 pm
Posts: 19521
pizza_Place: Lou Malnati's
Powerhouse233 wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
I don’t see one thing Moncada does well at this point. Run I guess. Not helpful at 2nd. And his base running doesn’t seem to match his speed. Just a horrific disappointment. Durable in any other organization to get that return for Sale.


He clearly works the count and draws walks very well, he's probably a little too selective at this point. Either way he's 23 fucking years old, anyone writing him off as a bust is a fool.


Dubs.

_________________
Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

The Missing Link wrote:
For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.


Last edited by WaitingforRuffcorn on Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:43 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:33 pm
Posts: 12078
pizza_Place: Vito and Nick's
Powerhouse233 wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
I don’t see one thing Moncada does well at this point. Run I guess. Not helpful at 2nd. And his base running doesn’t seem to match his speed. Just a horrific disappointment. Durable in any other organization to get that return for Sale.


He clearly works the count and draws walks very well, he's probably a little too selective at this point. Either way he's 23 fucking years old, anyone writing him off as a bust is a fool.

Especially with two strikes.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:43 am
Posts: 2287
pizza_Place: Palermo's 95th
I understand their desire to get another year of control out of Jimenez and Kopech, but they didn't seem hesitant about bringing up Moncada, Giolito, an Reyes at the end of last year. Those call ups kind of led me to the conclusion that, if things went according to plan, we'd get at least one call up every year. Why the difference between that first set of call ups and Jimenez and Kopech?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:25 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:32 pm
Posts: 13865
Location: France
pizza_Place: Baranabyis
Moncada and Giolito had already debuted in Boston and Washington.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:20 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81627
FavreFan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Everything in for 2020. 18 and 19 are off the board already.

There's no justifiable reason to not try to compete next season. It's been long enough.

That's what I was saying in 2014. You're right. I was just joking.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:25 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:05 pm
Posts: 68609
pizza_Place: Lina's Pizza
Kevin Powell
‏@kpowell720

I asked Michael Kopech if he'd be dissapointed if he didn't get called up this season: "Yea, I'd be disappointed. I know there's an aspect of it that I don't get to be a part of. There's a business side of things. But I feel like I've done everything I need to do." #Whitesox

_________________
The Hawk wrote:
There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:32 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:32 pm
Posts: 13865
Location: France
pizza_Place: Baranabyis
It just doesn't feel worth it to piss this kid off just for another year of control.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:36 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:05 pm
Posts: 68609
pizza_Place: Lina's Pizza
America wrote:
It just doesn't feel worth it to piss this kid off just for another year of control.


That's kind of how I feel. Do you want a big potential piece of your future to resent the team? I don't think so.

_________________
The Hawk wrote:
There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81627
Terry's Peeps wrote:
America wrote:
It just doesn't feel worth it to piss this kid off just for another year of control.


That's kind of how I feel. Do you want a big potential piece of your future to resent the team? I don't think so.

Also, pitchers are essentially like running backs, if you get 5 good years out of them, that's great. To plan for year 6 and 7 seems pretty ridiculous.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:54 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:05 pm
Posts: 68609
pizza_Place: Lina's Pizza
rogers park bryan wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
America wrote:
It just doesn't feel worth it to piss this kid off just for another year of control.


That's kind of how I feel. Do you want a big potential piece of your future to resent the team? I don't think so.

Also, pitchers are essentially like running backs, if you get 5 good years out of them, that's great. To plan for year 6 and 7 seems pretty ridiculous.


Another cromulent point.

_________________
The Hawk wrote:
There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:57 pm
Posts: 89466
Location: To the left of my post
rogers park bryan wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
America wrote:
It just doesn't feel worth it to piss this kid off just for another year of control.


That's kind of how I feel. Do you want a big potential piece of your future to resent the team? I don't think so.

Also, pitchers are essentially like running backs, if you get 5 good years out of them, that's great. To plan for year 6 and 7 seems pretty ridiculous.

2025

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!


Last edited by Brick on Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 4:29 pm
Posts: 39925
Location: Everywhere
pizza_Place: giordanos
Many good points on both sides really. The best thing would be if Hahn came out and explicitly said what is going on. Of course, if this is a service time matter then he cannot say that in public because there would be a complaint by the players union or whatever.

_________________
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:05 pm
Posts: 68609
pizza_Place: Lina's Pizza
If these guys are what you hope they are, they'll never see the end of their rookie deals. If they aren't, it won't matter anyway.

So in a sense it's all kind of pointless.

_________________
The Hawk wrote:
There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:34 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 4:29 pm
Posts: 39925
Location: Everywhere
pizza_Place: giordanos
Terry's Peeps wrote:
If these guys are what you hope they are, they'll never see the end of their rookie deals. If they aren't, it won't matter anyway.

So in a sense it's all kind of pointless.


I am inclined to think do not piss them off but they seem to know the deal.

_________________
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:05 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 80531
ooooh, I just can't wait to see jimenez play in a meaningless September game whose final box score is about as predictive of future success as a spring training game

Are you guys off your freaking rockers?

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: BRING THEM UP
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:10 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:17 am
Posts: 72296
Location: Palatine
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
good dolphin wrote:
ooooh, I just can't wait to see jimenez play in a meaningless September game whose final box score is about as predictive of future success as a spring training game

Are you guys off your freaking rockers?

The sports world has gone so crazy as of recently that people who want to see their team play it's best players are considered off their freaking rockers. What a time to be alive.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 105 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group