leash and rpb,
Do you guys hate the White Sox?

Nope

Do I hate the Cubs?

The only way I could see it being close to as ludicrous as rpb suggests is taking into account that the actual Sox fan base has shrunk so considerably. 25 years ago it was virtually even since very fine people on BOTH SIDES embraced the rivalry and reveled in the failure of the other team.

Now nearly every kid who likes baseball is a Cubs fan so there isn't a rivalry.

leash and rpb,
Do you guys hate the White Sox?

What kind of question is that? I have no idea what's in your heart other than an affinity for pedantry.

I'm sure no one gives a shit, but growing up in Central Illinois, the White Sox were just some team that played in Chicago and whose play-by-play guy was obnoxious. I probably only knew two Sox fans in my youth. People were either Cub fans or Cardinal fans, and the Cardinals won that rivalry all day, every day. The Cubs were the butt of the jokes. Still, there was no hatred.

When I went to college and was around Chicago-area peeps, I learned a little about the Cubs-Sox rivalry, but still not entirely because it was college so I was still only around Cub fans.

When I eventually moved to the Chicago area, I truly learned about the Cubs-Sox rivalry. I was surprised by the level of hatred Sox fans had toward the Cubs... and that was when the Cubs were still bad. It has only amplified since then and the Cubs have become great. There was never that level of hatred by the Cards against the Cubs, but maybe that's because the Cards were perennially competitive.

It was shocking to me how much Sox fans hated the Cubs, and it still surprises me to this day, though not as much. Maybe it's because I'm just a Wrigleyville yuppie who doesn't even care about the play on the field.

Isn't the whole discussion you judging Sox fans thoughts on the Cubs?

TL/DNR

Thanks sini

This. If you think the "trolling" (using that term loosely) between the two is equivalent, you just can't see anything beyond your own perspective. Sox fans have been waiting for last night for months, and the Cubs aren't even eliminated yet. It is mind-boggling to me that anyone can think it's even.

As I've said in the past, on this board its way closer than the general fanbases.


Of course you're gonna get lunatics in a place like this.

And why do you think they occasionally comment on the Sox?

I don't hate the Sox. I enjoy the occasional back and forth with fans but as others have said, hating the Cubs is a Sox fan badge of honor. "I have two favorite teams, the Sox and whoever is playing the Cubs" I hear that shit all the time and it mostly only goes one way. I'd put it at 80/20.

You literally have never heard that statement in your life.

You're just wrong on this. You have nothing on your side other than "I grew up with some guys that didn't like the Cubs." This board IS a pretty good microcosm of sports fans in general, and it's pretty damn even in terms of Cub or Sox fans who post about the other team or it's fans.

It's in the south side Irish song!

I've lived all over Chicago on Both sides, it's not a few people I grew up with.

And this board is absolutely not a microcosm of sports fans. It's 90% the extreme fanatics here.

No one outside this board even argues this. It's common knowledge for crying out loud, ask Ogilvee!

Frank has admitted it in THIS thread

RPB, we forgot... there's a third whack job who argues this. I can't believe I forgot FF.

So, to be clear, the majority of the Subdivision is still in touch with reality (even if enraged by Cubbie success), and Frank (who even admitted it's not even), Rick (who would argue in favor of Jay Cutler if Theo disliked him), and FF (who occasionally shows signs of lucidity but usually reverts to nonsense) are still arguing one of the most ridiculous viewpoints ever concocted.

Just making sure we are keeping score. Queue the bounce emoticons.

This is one of my favorite arguments because it shows just how irrational you and RPB can get. You guys have nothing but anecdotal evidence to support your argument. I have the same in support of mine. And in the one sports minded community we all belong to, even you guys admit it's roughly even, but then you just fall back on the "yeah but it's all the ones not on this board who I'm talking about".

RPB, we forgot... there's a third whack job who argues this. I can't believe I forgot FF.

So, to be clear, the majority of the Subdivision is still in touch with reality (even if enraged by Cubbie success), and Frank (who even admitted it's not even), Rick (who would argue in favor of Jay Cutler if Theo disliked him), and FF (who occasionally shows signs of lucidity but usually reverts to nonsense) are still arguing one of the most ridiculous viewpoints ever concocted.

Just making sure we are keeping score. Queue the bounce emoticons.

@FF - Frank admitted that Sox fans troll more than Cub fans. Congratulations. Frank Coztansa is less biased than you.