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Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:56 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Fire Chris Getz |
The word on the White Sox interwebs is that Getz had been throwing Kenny and Hahn under the bus for a while. Maybe (and yes I know this is a huge giant maybe) those two were keeping a lid on him and he wanted to try and new approach. Given the reports we have heard about Hahn wanting out, its plausible that this may have been the case and Kenny was still power hungry and involved in everything. We'll just have to see. I know us Sox fans can hope in one hand and shit in the other and see what fills up first, but all we can do is hope at this point. IMO nothing will change until Jerry dies or sells, but I'll do my best to give Getz the benefit of the doubt for a few months and see what moves he makes or is allowed to make. |
Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:59 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Fire Chris Getz |
Give him zero benefit of the doubt. Criticize every move. If by some stroke of luck he falls ass backwards into a good decision, begrudgingly acknowledge it solely in contrast to the bad decisions he’s made. No quarter for this organization. |
Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:02 pm ] |
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This Ends in Antioch wrote: Give him zero benefit of the doubt, criticize every move and then, if by some stroke of luck, he falls ass backwards into a good decision, begrudgingly acknowledge it solely in contrast to the bad decisions he’s made. I won't deny I probably should feel this way, and certainly would not begrudge anybody who does.No quarter for this organization. That said, I'll still wait and see what happens this offseason. I guess I'm just that much of a masochist, naive Sox fan to believe in that 1% chance there is things will be different... |
Author: | blackhawksfan [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:32 pm ] |
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This hire bolds well for the future of the Chicago White Sox. Jerry did it again! |
Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:56 pm ] |
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On a day where the Sox exec failed upward, Bernstein is very concerned about TLR. |
Author: | Warren Newson [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:58 pm ] |
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Frank Coztansa wrote: The word on the White Sox interwebs is that Getz had been throwing Kenny and Hahn under the bus for a while. Maybe (and yes I know this is a huge giant maybe) those two were keeping a lid on him and he wanted to try and new approach. Given the reports we have heard about Hahn wanting out, its plausible that this may have been the case and Kenny was still power hungry and involved in everything. We'll just have to see. I know us Sox fans can hope in one hand and shit in the other and see what fills up first, but all we can do is hope at this point. IMO nothing will change until Jerry dies or sells, but I'll do my best to give Getz the benefit of the doubt for a few months and see what moves he makes or is allowed to make. I hope you're right, but I don't think you are: 1. Kenny and Hahn drafted Getz and brought him back as a member of the front office. I think he would feel some sense of loyalty to them and probably wouldn't undermine them; 2. Jerry seems like someone who values loyalty. I don't think he would reward somebody who undermined his superiors with a promotion; and 3. If Getz's criticism was well received, you would still think there would at least be some incentive to hire outside of the organization. It seems like they didn't even bother to look outside the organization. I'm not even going to bother with forced optimism at this point. |
Author: | Caller Bob [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:07 pm ] |
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Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:12 pm ] |
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Leave it to Bob to use a meme from a season where the team won 102 games. Vaccinated Bobby must think pretty highly of the 2024 Sox! ![]() ![]() |
Author: | HawaiiYou [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:23 pm ] |
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I didnt know the score guys have a live video feed now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-ddMAa1aQo I liked it better when I didnt need to see the on air personalities faces. These assholes dressing to work like they just strolled off the morning jog. and damn bernstein got old as fuck! |
Author: | good dolphin [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:25 pm ] |
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Warren Newson wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: The word on the White Sox interwebs is that Getz had been throwing Kenny and Hahn under the bus for a while. Maybe (and yes I know this is a huge giant maybe) those two were keeping a lid on him and he wanted to try and new approach. Given the reports we have heard about Hahn wanting out, its plausible that this may have been the case and Kenny was still power hungry and involved in everything. We'll just have to see. I know us Sox fans can hope in one hand and shit in the other and see what fills up first, but all we can do is hope at this point. IMO nothing will change until Jerry dies or sells, but I'll do my best to give Getz the benefit of the doubt for a few months and see what moves he makes or is allowed to make. I hope you're right, but I don't think you are: 1. Kenny and Hahn drafted Getz and brought him back as a member of the front office. I think he would feel some sense of loyalty to them and probably wouldn't undermine them; 2. Jerry seems like someone who values loyalty. I don't think he would reward somebody who undermined his superiors with a promotion; and 3. If Getz's criticism was well received, you would still think there would at least be some incentive to hire outside of the organization. It seems like they didn't even bother to look outside the organization. I'm not even going to bother with forced optimism at this point. if it succeeds it will be because of luck rather than by plan |
Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:46 pm ] |
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I'll take luck over the shitshow we've seen the past two years. Cubs fans ain't complaining about being lucky in 2016. |
Author: | Nas [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:30 pm ] |
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Chris Getz the Sox to the playoffs next season. |
Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:37 pm ] |
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Reinsdorf speaking live right now. |
Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:40 pm ] |
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Was? There's still like 25 games left buddy ![]() |
Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:41 pm ] |
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Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:43 pm ] |
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Jerry on the muscle about those with negative thoughts on TLR. He’s cancer shaming those who’d critique Tony’s performance. Just straight-up disabusing Bernstein right now. |
Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:44 pm ] |
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Reinsdorf also very giggly while highlighting they’d never be in for a guy like Ohtani. Media chuckled along with him. |
Author: | Brick [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:45 pm ] |
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Has he pointed out he has 7 rings? I would be pointing that out constantly. |
Author: | Caller Bob [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:47 pm ] |
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Reiny disabusing The Subdivision. You love to see it |
Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:52 pm ] |
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This Ends in Antioch wrote: Reinsdorf also very giggly while highlighting they’d never be in for a guy like Ohtani. Media chuckled along with him. Of course Jerry won't spend, but Ohtani is likely headed for Tommy John surgery.Maybe Ohtani has a cousin or an in law who is a relief pitcher they can sign. |
Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:52 pm ] |
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Reinsdorf wants Getz to try to identify scouts who’ve been fired by organizations that prioritize analytics and see if he can find some gems. Rebuild off to a great start. |
Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:53 pm ] |
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Jerry: fans should be pissed, but this is our first really bad year. Also, I didn’t get in this game to make money. |
Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:54 pm ] |
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Hey if the Sox want to go all in on the nerd stats, that's fine by me. Its clearly something they haven't valued much of over the last several seasons. You think TLR gave a shit about WAR or that Pedro Grifol understand run differential? |
Author: | Caller Bob [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:54 pm ] |
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Author: | BD [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:54 pm ] |
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This Ends in Antioch wrote: Jerry on the muscle about those with negative thoughts on TLR. He’s cancer shaming those who’d critique Tony’s performance. Just straight-up disabusing Bernstein right now. Bernstein doesn't like TLR because he has different opinions on social/political issues. That makes TLR a horrible person. If he can attack his managing (which was justified) on top of it (or in cover of his dislike of the person), so be it. #21stCenturyJournalism |
Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:56 pm ] |
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Frank Coztansa wrote: Hey if the Sox want to go all in on the nerd stats, that's fine by me. Its clearly something they haven't valued much of over the last several seasons. You think TLR gave a shit about WAR or that Pedro Grifol understand run differential? Opposite of that. Jerry wants them to find scouts that analytical front offices deemed expendable. |
Author: | BD [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:57 pm ] |
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This Ends in Antioch wrote: Reinsdorf wants Getz to try to identify scouts who’ve been fired by organizations that prioritize analytics and see if he can find some gems. Rebuild off to a great start. So Reinsdorf is hoping that hiring Getz, who knows the organization, will allow the White Sox to quickly turn things around vs. hiring a more qualified candidate who may be slower in making large changes to improve the overall roster. is that the calculation? How is Getz supposed to improve the major league team if the minor league system is, being generous, middle of the pack, and the payroll has limitations that will not allow for a fast turnaround? |
Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Fire Chris Getz |
Jerry with a Cocaine Mitch joke. Also early-on, threatened Sox fans by noting he thinks he’ll be alive another 10yrs. |
Author: | BD [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:58 pm ] |
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This Ends in Antioch wrote: Reinsdorf wants Getz to try to identify scouts who’ve been fired by organizations that prioritize analytics and see if he can find some gems. Rebuild off to a great start. This sounds like Money Ball. Don't replace the player, they can't pay them, but find cheap talent to come close to replacing the numbers. |
Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:58 pm ] |
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Grifol will be back next season. So much for being different. Good to know that guy who thought he had leaders in Spring Training and didn't figure out until June that they weren't the real leaders will be back at the helm. |
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